NWO is in 2012 when annunaki arrive from 3600 year cycle

Originally posted by spines

Originally posted by cpdaman

To speculate is one thing, however, to make claims such as these in a way that denotes fact is quite another.

The basis of this theory stems soley from translated texts which tell stories of myth and fable. If they are to be believed soley because they exist then certainly many other myths should be taken as truth.

Mount Olympus lives on again and let us continue to thank Prometheus for bringing us fire.


Why do you throw in the 'likely' in? I would be more interested in your material which shows this to be likely then cross-catagorized speculization.


Once again you speak of speculative scenarios while using conditions which are presented as fact. Before speculation of future events can be discussed one must first present evidence for the fact-based 'players' about which these possible scenarios revolve.


The burden of proof falls to your feet my friend.

We do not have the responsibility of proof. Rather, you, by making the fantastic claim, must provide the proof on which your position stands.

[edit on 7/1/0707 by spines]

well this sure looks like you picked apart every word.or maybe your just very fond of the word likely.and u say provide proof to something he states IS OPPINION ..he says i think and i believe many times.You may want to go read your other posts before you try to say you didnt pick his comments apart word by word.and theres 3 or 4 more posts by you that pick apart everything he says...anyway im not ehre to argue just express my oppinion,Im sure if my oppinion is ever wrong you will let me know

just re read your comments man,i just think you came accross tid bit strong when the guy was simply stating his own theory.i dont even know what the hell hes talking about but i sure as hell wouldnt critisize him.I'd just move on to next post

And thanks for the welcome to the forums.Glad i you were here to give me a warm welcome
[edit on 2-7-2007 by Project_Silo]

[edit on 2-7-2007 by Project_Silo]

Originally posted by SEEWHATUDO
ATS is many things to many people, there are more topics on this site that have no proof then have proof.
Why is it always the same members over and over again going in and bashing threads?
It is really getting tiresome, if you dont like the topic or the spelling, grammer, lack of proof etc. then just leave it alone.
Why do you even bother? Are you that bored?

This is off topic, but, Yes, you do see the same members doing most of the bashing, don't you? Some reply with negativity over 90% of the time from what it seems like when I read these forums. Yes, I know they have been through this and through that, too many times. They are tired of reading posts where they don't belong. Maybe threads do belong somewhere else, maybe they don't. Maybe some of us here still want to "speculate" and discuss it anyway. Is it that hard?

I've read a good bit on the subject and it interests me. I am looking forward to reading more here, its a scenario that has its possibilities just like any other scenario out there. This probably does belong in Skunkworks, but lets leave that up to the moderators to decide, eh? Short posts stating "This belongs in Skunkworks!!", boy that contributes. Heck, my post isn't contributing. But I think I had to give my 2cents about the bashing. If you don't have anything constructive to say, just don't post it. Let the Mods deal with it.

GAME ON!! (You can now continue playing in the street)

dp

[edit on 3-7-2007 by cpdaman]

yup

the same people that have 100,000 points or so more than others tend to be those that try to state things are absolute i.e such and such never lived x years ago, and i start to think they own the "well in my official "scientific books i read and got my degree from" never mentioned them so someone coming out of the woodwork is not going to know more than me attitude.

then they procede to highlight and insert your quotes and then line up the counter opinion they hold and stack these up back to back like they are making it look nice and pretty and that this is the last word and makes it debunked. it becomes funny to me

these people use there i am right attitude and 100,000 points which i bet influece people's beleif that points=wisdom or truth saying

when we know that those that get ahead in deliberating in the real world (lawyers), politica strategists are more so affluent with words and social psychology and , are not prioritzed toward telling the truth.

Scientists avoid dealing with anomalous aspects of human experience and nature.
The religious fear to examine the origins of their own beliefs.
Educators indoctrinate instead of helping students to become self-learners.
Institutions defend their beliefs and authority with arrogance.

www.vonward.com... p.s my view is a bit different than his but a good read none the less

mentioned on page 1 of this thread

the biggest obstacle in human advancement is not ignorance it is the human ego, and how much knowledge we think we have and how by defending these beliefs we (without careful considertion) end up defending narrow minded perspectives



*pay careful attention to the following and i hope i have done the reasoning it imply's the justice it deserves* especially those wondering why certain things (like avdanced beings, ufo's, ghosts, etc) may be so persistent in story's , in people's opinions, and why they are surpressed, even in fact if they are real

organized society must have a certain level of order and too much disorder threatens the fabric of society, in particular the powers that rule in a society. these powers are threatened when to much disorder rises, so they quell the disorder before it has a chance to begin. and they fund topics that has absolute information like physical sciences because it is not based on subjectivity and thus can be controlled and the level of disorder is low

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things with a high potential for disorder are things based on subjectivity and the interpretation of of a person. such things may be known as mystic today such as para psychology, consciusness, these things have a higher potential for disagreement and disorder and thought can be controlled and so it is surpressed and unfunded also things that may cause a high amount of fear or worry are known to cause disorder. these things which cause fear or worry will usually be surpressed and kept on a need to know basis (unless the fear is used to carry forth an agenda) this includes ufo's , aliens, the NWO agenda, the "conspiracy of silence" and other things that if the public knew about would cause much disorder and thus will be unfunded and surpressed at every turn.

it is much simpler to establish and maintain social order when dealing with physical and materialistic things, physical things can be seen by everyone to exist, this can determine and faciliate certain types of levels of society or orders which can become clearer when compared to immaterial "things" and "stuff" -- against what could be more difficult to perceive whatever order the immaterial things may possess or be representative of.

open that m i n d intelligently


[edit on 3-7-2007 by cpdaman]

Nothing wrong with this thread subject or where it is posted. For a related thread that did take off and give a lot of history and references to early history and the Annunaki go toEarly history and Annunaki thread. There should be some good links. I will monitor this thread for a few days if you have questions and comments.

Is it really necessary to constantly remind people of this? We all know its pure speculation, but seriously some people around here act like thats a crime. It really gets tiresome.

Now here are my thoughts on the topic at hand. i WOULDN'T quick to place trust in ETs. I don't think we are dealing with just one race of alien here. I think we are in direct/indirect contact with a number of different alien factions all with hidden agendas (raptilians, greys, andromidans, ect).

You forgot to mention the Androsi.. Besides we'll all know in 2012 wont we its not that far away!

I for one wouldnt mind going off to work under the yolk of the annunaki, its got to be better than sitting on this crappy rock hasnt it!

[edit on 2-1-2008 by Brother_Amos]

Personally I doubt a return of the Annunaki in 2012. Don't you think if their cycle completion was only 4 years off, we would have seen their planet by now? and 3000 years ago was a little after 1000 b.c... by that time mesopatamia had begun to collapse, so I highly doubt that the whole theory is actual fact...

[edit on 5-1-2008 by Mygodishendrix]

Originally posted by ExquisitExamplE
It amazes me that people can form complex theories on ancient civilizations, but are still not capable of correctly differentiating between their/there. I really hope english is not your first language.

Ughh...please don't ruin the thread by trampling all over it with your high horse.

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a shred of evidence would be nice, its generally what seperates conspiracy threads from skink works...

According to Mr Sitchin's books (which I have read), Nibiru orbited near Terra @600BC. That means it is not due back for another 1000 years. I liked his books as they are well written and entertaining. However, while some of his writings on the possibility of ancient alien visitations is possible, the whole theory of Nibiru seems a little far fetched.

The return of the annunaki is true and they do want us to know about them coming back. this is not the problem, the problem is that they mixed the truth with lies.. and one of the biggest lies is that they created mankind, and this is their main goal to achieve as they are the servant of the antichrist ( may God keep us away from his magic) who will pretend that he is the God and he is the one that created our religions, and all the stuff we care of and just make us feel that all what were we doing was nothing but a crap, and it's time for him to show us the truth..............you are trying to warn us but at the same time you are helping them by spreading their big lie which is that they created us!!! have faith there is no God But God the one who created everything that existed and that will, Do not let evils drive you away from the straightforwardness.

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No one here can say it is all b.s. No one can give solid proof. Within ancient texts around the world "giants" or the nephilim have had evidence and had mention in all ancient texts, including the bible, eg. Goliath. skeletons have also been found, not in just one place of the world, but all over. People teach religion and the bible at schools and institutions, meaning that the bible and religious beliefs in the kind are "fact", where however everyone is saying the 2012, Nibiru etc is all b.s. The bible and religious beliefs have no "proof" or anything in the like to proove it to be a "fact". All the 2012, annunaki, NWO etc is as much plausable as what "God, Bible, religion" is. The only way to proove 2012, Nibiru is speculation and a myth is to have hard solid evidence that God is real, but on the contrary to that, prooving the bible and god is real is also prooving the "nephilim" and annuanki or giants were real aswell.
And if anyone could ever possibly get the evidence to proove either, we will never hear of it. It would be covered up immediately as knowledge of either would create world turmoil. The only way for anyone to find out the truth is to wait with time. If nothing happens...then it was definetly b.s, if it does happen...wont you feel stupid for wasting all you time criticising it on internet forums, when you could have taken some of the information in and had a heads up on the whole situation.

Cp you are only giving your opinion and some speculation, that's it you shouldnt say "fact" in the first place obecause neither of both NWO and aliens at the present time can be declared has facts.

We are not flaming him, it just that people comes here with this info that has been regurgitated at least 15 years or more like something "new" and that nobody knew on this forum before and saying its "fact"

I am sorry but more and more ATS is becoming for me..

Interesting discussion and part speculation , I am always amused at the reaction to this topic of you earthlings..
The facts are , and prove me wrong , this applies to all on the site , " We all come from NOTHING.
Now to be able to debate the very existance of any life form ( which by the way is irrellevant, if you cant accept that all in the universe has been derivative of Nothing) one would need to accept alpha and omega. The beggining and the end. Get it !!
You are debating things that have happened, accept this , your tiny weenie brain is far to small to comprehend , even at debate level. Your require huge intellect to debate these topics and need to open your mind to any and all possibilities.

The reality that there are billions or infinite inhabitance on other planets is not to be proved , it exists. And speculate , no not at all , ask any good mathematician and he will equate the probability of Earths clones in numbers. Let alone trillions of other species etc.
The fact is gentleman, You are the alien , and lets view it like this.

On some other planet tonight / or day , another civilization is contemplating the same thought. What are you to them, Do they exist , do you ??
We all , you all , they all , life , earth ,stars , galaxies come from NOTHING and if it takes eternity it will end up where it began.
So relax. When it happens you will probably deny that to !!

A thought from someone who has been there ???

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There are much more realistic, important, and evident things going on in the world. The last thing to worry about is some major event in 4 years that may or may not happen (and if there is a major event, who's to say what/where it will be?).

Don't take this the wrong way, but it's all a crock of negativity

[edit on 9-11-2008 by bdswetty]

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i really enjoy this article, everyone misspell words, so dont worry about it. you made your point, and i understood it.

Its funny how the term annunaki has meant several different races. Sitchin connecting them to planet x, and the reptilians, and then again, many who have had nordic or pleiadian contact are doing so with those who call themselves the annunaki, who aren't the renegades at all, and we were not formed to be a waring race, crippled subsequently by the renegades. Our closest cousin in dna, is the bonobo chimp, a specific pigmy chimp that is not warring or violent, unlike some, the true hippy lovers amongst primates, with incredible social structures, oversexed and truly marvelous and a joy. We were meant to evolve, with a wonderful garden, herbs and medicines available and some help. Perhaps, as I read in one account, there were too many masters and generals amongst them, and hence fighting over different groups, some less positive. But I'm not sure this term is being used correctly at all. I see the annunaki as nordics, particularly connected with Mars, Atlantis and Lemuria.

[edit on 3-1-2009 by mystiq]

[edit on 3-1-2009 by mystiq]

Originally posted by kidflash2008
According to Mr Sitchin's books (which I have read), Nibiru orbited near Terra @600BC. That means it is not due back for another 1000 years.

Yes quite so...

but then that would spoil the 2012 party wouldn't it?

I shall Quote Sitchin....

Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth
around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to
3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when
Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of
Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this
close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons,
Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and
Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's
revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next
return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600-
year orbit [Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, pages 315 - 317].

not till 2900 AD Long after we are all long gone

Im in favour of Lord Xenu myself

Hey Im open minded if it feels right ill eat anything



my life is so empty, if only Star Wars was real......