Why won't they visit me?

They don't, because abductions aren't real.

For my cases, I believe srongly in Aliens and abductions.

Yet, I do agree that I do not want to be abducted. It sounds way cool at first but
once you think about it, you are on an Alien ship, they are running painful tests on you (or from some accounts I have heard, having sex with you. No joke.).

I am not so sure, but I have seen scrapes sometimes that I did not have the day before, I just woke up with them, and only notice them until the afternoon or the next day or so. This only happened twice, and the scrapes are very thin and not very long, like you got clipped by a thin piece of metal.

Maybe I was part of an abduction, and they ran tests on me, but I was asleep for the whole thing, and they were using advanced surgery techniques, ones that only leave small scrapes for an entry point, and using a type of liquid stitch that acts as human skin, then dries up like a scab.

I really don't know if I have been abducted, but I do wonder...


EDIT #3!!!: Lethal Dose, what is it like? Going up and seeing the Aliens? What do their ships look like? What do their ships look like on the inside? Etc...





[edit on 30-6-2007 by TechnoFan21]

Why does it have to be evil Greys that visit me. I've read many contact reports that aren't fearful, traumatizing events for those who've experienced this. There are also many reports of "people" from other worlds that aren't anything like the Greys.
Could it not also be the case that those that have made contact with these Greys were initially frightened due to the obvious physical difference they saw and that fear, became the overriding emotion experienced throughout the visitation. If you were mentally prepared for meeting "someone" far different than yourself, would that not, in itself help to allay some of the fear and shock. I don't know.
I do see true wisdom from those that have advised caution with regards to asking for such an open non-specific visitation. One can never be sure what you might catch fishing with common bait in unknown waters. I guess I assumed that if they are here then they are obviously far advanced in comparison and I could therefore pose no threat to them and they would act accordingly. It seems, through the readings, that communication is usually telepathic and from that they would know that mine is a true desire for knowledge and social interaction. I thought, maybe a race that far advanced would have left indiscriminate hostility behind them far in their evolutionary process. I do see that this may not be a logical assumption.
For those of you that have been "blessed", truly for lack of a better term, by contact, how can you not be overjoyed knowing that we are not alone spinning around in the universe. Think about the knowledge base you've been able to have access to.
Maybe my request is naive and dangerous. Most of our first human endeavors are. You can't truly evaluate an experience until you have it. And all can't be expected to be wonderful. Bad analogy here, but talking about sex isn't anything like having sex. And good sex doesn't compare to bad sex.
I guess that's a very bad analogy, because even bad sex is pretty good. But I digress, greatly.
I hope this thread continues because it, in itself is both educational and enlightening. Some of you guys seem to know something. That alone is encouraging.

Originally posted by ParanoidKid
Maybe a scared unrational mind that has no idea whats going on is esier to manipulate and dominate than a mind of someone who knows whats going on and what they are

I would say you hit the nail on the head.

However what if they manipulate your mind to make you scared and unrational ?

Regard's
Lee

[edit on 30-6-2007 by h3akalee]

Originally posted by Stanley06
Ignorant and warlike species content to seek notional ideas and wage war for
inconsistent and irrational paradigms.
Resources are often allocated on the basis of the stronger preying on the weaker of the species and this theme is repeated planetwide regardless of location and culture.
Caution is indicated in the short term but the long term outcome of species collapse is likely to rectify any interplanetary or galactic ambitions of this species. Exhaustive simulations show resource wars and then mass starvation and disease making the current urban living model unsustainable in the short to medium term. Nation states will wage war directly or by proxy as long as the controlling classes can mobilize the growing underclass to do their bidding.


[edit on 29-6-2007 by Stanley06]

[edit on 29-6-2007 by Stanley06]

Yep that pretty much describes us

Originally posted by Stanley06
Ignorant and warlike species content to seek notional ideas and wage war for
inconsistent and irrational paradigms.
Resources are often allocated on the basis of the stronger preying on the weaker of the species and this theme is repeated planetwide regardless of location and culture.
Caution is indicated in the short term but the long term outcome of species collapse is likely to rectify any interplanetary or galactic ambitions of this species. Exhaustive simulations show resource wars and then mass starvation and disease making the current urban living model unsustainable in the short to medium term. Nation states will wage war directly or by proxy as long as the controlling classes can mobilize the growing underclass to do their bidding.



[edit on 29-6-2007 by Stanley06]

[edit on 29-6-2007 by Stanley06]

Yep, that describes us to a tee

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Most ETs don't contact and visit. They kidnap. They run painful medical experiements. They mess with minds and memories. They put tracking chips in you.

You DO NOT want them to 'visit'.

You are seriously mistaken.
You have watched too many movies. And read 20 too many books.
Please, try to make an opinion of yourself instead of taking all the garbage out there, and then spreading that garbage here...

I'm not necessarily subscribing to this theory, but from the many case studies I've read about, it seems the far majority of abductees/contactees really had no preconceived notion or desire to 'be visited'.

The corollary then, if you really are serious about this, is that to increase your odds of making contact, you should NOT 'try' to do so.

I know, it doesn't make much sense, but it seems that those who have claimed contact were all completely unaware and utterly surprised by their predicament.

Of course, this hypothesis does not include the potential guvmint-types that may (or may not) be in regular cahoots with "them".

I completely in agreement with you.
May I ad thought that majority of abductees heavily increase reoccurance by skipping medication or sex act.
I'm not a doctor. And this idea is not mine. So dont thank me or pile questions untill ATS server renders unfunctional.

Originally posted by BitDust
I completely in agreement with you.
May I ad thought that majority of abductees heavily increase reoccurance by skipping medication or sex act.
I'm not a doctor. And this idea is not mine. So dont thank me or pile questions untill ATS server renders unfunctional.

what in the world are you talking about?

sorry double post

[edit on 1-7-2007 by freddieb]

Well, in respose to your question as to why they won't visit you, I would have to ask, how do you know that they haven't? You are not going to wake up the next morning and say, "Whoa! That was a hell of a thing to dream about." You are not going to have any recollection at all. That's kinda' the way they want it.
It doesn't matter what you look like, what you do for a living or whether you want it to happen or not. They take those they want for reasons of their own. I believe it is for some genetic trait they have been cultivating through specific bloodlines. As to why...I really couldn't say for sure except I believe that some "Greys" want to create a hybrid race to either revitalize their own race or to act as a embassadors for a future global disclosure.
Now the question to ask is how are you going to know if you are being contacted when they program you not to remember the event. But like a person that has a tramatic experience and buries the emotional impact of it so the mind intentionally forgets it. The experience can come back to you in months or years later in flashes of images, scents, or strong feeling of anxiety. The trigger can be just as subtle whether it is a hue of light, the claustriphobia of a room or just a random image. Most people would just fluff off these wierd feelings as being silly but someone that has had contact or been abducted, these feelings, thoughts or images can bring on terrible bouts of unexplainable fear, debilitating anxiety and hysteria.
Most people never make a connection as to why they have these issues. Someone that is into the subject of the aliens or abduction might make the connection but even that won't bring the full experience to total recall. Like a post hypnotic suggestion, the very act of trying to remember can trigger great feelings of dread and anxiety that the conscious mind retreats from.
Over time, these emotion triggers can lose their potency and more recollections may come forth. It takes patience, times and the willingness of a lot of personal introspection to seek the truth of a real or imagined experience.
There is a lot of things that go with this experience. The prescence of a "critter" not from this world can itself bring on feelings of fear. The fact that you have absolutely no control of yourself or anything around you is terrifying when added to the unknown surroundings or intentions of something that shouldn't be real. Then add on top of that their "tests."
They have the ability to turn off pain but the discomort of the experience can linger and so can the marks and scars. Both emotionally and physically.
After time, with repeated experiences will come acceptance of the situation. Add to that the fact that there is absolutely nothing you can do about it and no matter how terrible or helpless you feel, you will survive.
Eventually, through much emotional/personal growth and acceptance, the need for shielding the conscious mind of these experiences by them and you will allow more of the encounter to be recalled.

Originally posted by paigcal
As others have said, you should be careful what you wish for. Do you really want to attract them to you? They are evil little beings, ugly and dangerous and will do whatever they want to you.

That's not entirely true. They are not all "evil" anymore than all humans are "good".

I admit they are very intimidating to look at since them looking at you is them looking through you, but I wouldn't be so bold as to disregard them because they don't look like clones of Brad Pitt. Beauty is subjective of course and you'd be wise not to base your decisions on any potential cosmic interaction solely on looks. I'd trust the Grays more than the (giant) humanoid blonde Aryans, or anything pretending to be a winged angel from heaven.

In terms of the "small" grays, look at them as freelance agents, that can work for a number of companies. Those companies may be in direct competition and opposition to each other and they all don't follow the same tactics. Some are designed to help others to hurt (from our perspective anyway) and planet earth is the workplace.

I've mentioned my hard time with my experience and to be careful of wishful thinking but it had NOTHING to do with the Grays I've encountered. In fact I have nothing but respect for the ones I've met.

They are powerful, they are beyond intelligent, very spiritual, have dogmatic beliefs, and feel honored to do their work. They are aware of the dimensional restraints we live in and since they aren't bound by them they can work in the "invisible", so they can be there and you don't know even it.

It's why they can seem to "disappear" at will (or at least I've seen this)...but they really don't. They are still there, but phased up to the next dimensional level beyond the third. What we mistakenly think of as the "spirit world". In that mode they can also appear to be ghost-like.

I've read the stories of the cold Grays that have abused humans and you know what...I believe it to be true. I think this can and does happen. I assume that there is complicated network out there and if I can have a more pleasant/positive experience it stands to reason that some also do not. I believe that some networks are malicious and disrespectful to humanity.

The safest way is just to ignore them. Once they are in your life it's hard to get them out.

Now THAT statement is very true.

There is always a risk with most things of this nature, however spiritual benefits (clarity/enlightenment) usually require you take the rough path. I was worried at times, but what I've gained outweighs the negatives.

It's up to you.

Ok, maybe evil was to strong a word, but that is my opinion of them and it was not stated in the fact that they are ugly to look upon. I am not intimidated by what their appearance seems to be. I believe them to be evil. I do not know what experiences you have had with them, but maybe you have had an experience with something other than a grey. I do not change my opinion.

Originally posted by paigcal
Ok, maybe evil was to strong a word, but that is my opinion of them...I believe them to be evil. I do not know what experiences you have had with them, but maybe you have had an experience with something other than a grey. I do not change my opinion.

I see, and I certainly didn't mean to discount what you said nor state anything as a definitive fact on my part either.

I am not here to change your opinion but maybe what I wrote can change your generalization of them as a group, I don't know. They do not all act the same though that much I realize. I've had experiences with more than just Grays (or is it Greys?) you're right and no, I don't have any proof of what I am saying either. Anyone that doesn't believe me, understandably has a right to do so.

I don't know what experiences you've had but if they are as dark as you claim then I do feel you have a right to your opinion of the individuals involved. My point was to say to the OP be cautious of your desire for contact when all the players in the game are not the same even if they look it.

I think (assuming we are being honest to the members here in what we write) you and I are maybe good examples of why you should be careful with involvement you have little control over.

Lee,
What you and others have said seems a rational and measured approach to handling a possible Contact/visitation.
I am very hesitant to use the word abduction because I'm requesting the visit. It wouldn't be an abduction.

I've had no experience whatsoever, as far as I can remember, with any EBEs so there is no preconceived notion in my mind that I draw on for speculation.

My natural reaction to physical differences between them and us is simply to acknowledge the difference. For example, I don't see an insect and think what an ugly bug. I think " oh, look at that. Isn't that interesting." another insect of the same kind may have a concept of insect beauty. I don't. For that matter what do they think about us. Are we not just as strange and different to them?

As far as once contact is made it doesn't end. well I don't want it to end. i am looking for a real social and intellectual relationship and where ever that takes us is fine with me. i meet and interact with people of our kind every day and build relationships with those people and I don't always like the dynamics of those relationships. But I work within that relationship and try to move forward nonetheless. After all we don't always like the relationships we have with our own family members, but that doesn't stop us from trying to build something better.

As I said it may have been naive for me to cast a desire for contact in too general of an area. There again I cast generally because I have no reference point. I've had no contact, so I have no preferences as to what entities I meet.

There seems to be no aversion or readily evident preference on the part of the ETs as to the social or economic status of those they contact so I ask why not me? Granted I'm not someone who has the where with all to assist them.

It is for me just a hope for social, cordial and intellectual interaction.
Again this may be naive. And I can't and won't force myself to adopt the fears that so many seem to have regarding possible contact. that in itself is a recipe for failure in my way of thinking. I do acknowledge the need to be cautious and discerning but not to the point of fear. After all our world is where it is today because of the huge amount of fear we have of each other.

If on this board, there are those that know how contact can be made in a real way then I'm asking for help. I have tried and will continue to "put the thought and mental invitation out there". If telepathy is the way then hopefully my antentea is out.

Lee your's and a couple of other's comments, I take to heart and wish that I've had the experiences that you have had. If it ever happens, I will hopefully be the richer for it.

I hope this thread continues because this is truly educational and refreshing to know that everyone's ET experience isn't probes and abduction. some folks seem to actually have good experiences.

At any rate I will endeavor to continue with this request and maybe somewhere out there my thoughts will reach a kind compassionate being that has like desires and I'll have met a new friend

It may be naive, but it is so.

I'm just now reading over the posts in this thread and thanks freddieb for starting it up.
I also have some of my own comments,idea's and suggestions I'd like to share with everyone in this thread on how to initiate 'contact' where I have actual material evidence from others and myself which in the form of recordings of voices of unseen beings who claim not to be of our world. Am currently putting together a short presentation of this information and will post it here a little later.

I've a couple of old friends who met "ET" in two separate incidents. One was abducted from his car and during the lengthy experience they told him "we are older than time". The other friend, using a simple technique I told him about, met a grey, who told him "we don't take life, we create life". The technique is as follows and it does work though you're not guaranteed to meet ET. Lie down.Close your eyesKEEP WATCHING.WAITThat's basically it. If you fall asleep start all over when you wake up. Give yourself at least two hours of peace. By "keep watching" I mean really look at the blank space behind your closed eyelids. I've had experiences myself with this. First one took nearly two hours and it got faster each time I tried it again. My friend tried it for a couple of hours then gave up. He had a break then started again and it was almost instant.

Originally posted by ETDisclosure

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Most ETs don't contact and visit. They kidnap. They run painful medical experiements. They mess with minds and memories. They put tracking chips in you.

You DO NOT want them to 'visit'.

You are seriously mistaken.
You have watched too many movies. And read 20 too many books.
Please, try to make an opinion of yourself instead of taking all the garbage out there, and then spreading that garbage here...

That was poor.

How much more knowledge must you have than him, by dismissing his point completly and questioning his credibility at the same time?

I don't know why so many people here are giving these vast generalizations that all ET's are one way and one way only when we already know, based on all of the information that's been circulating for many years now, that inclusive within the ET phenomenon are a spectrum of beings of all types that range from the benevolent to those who seem to be following an agenda that's clearly quite the contrary.
But the bottom line is, and I do believe that I have enough of my own personal information on this based not only on my own experiences but those experiences of others too, that there are not just one type of entity out there that classify themselves as ET's and in fact, there are many. This is not say that they all know about each other so this is where the confusion comes in because many entities will claim that they are the only ones out there... but this is simply not true.