Comments made by son?

Hey man,

I am a psychic and very sensitive to spirits and M.D.B.s. I think that your son saw a dark energy form, Humanoid. I believe his comment on the witch was his only reference to what he had seen. If you ever watch the movie, the witch forms from air and then leaves that way; If i recall correctly its been years since Ive seen it. I tuned into the energy and its definitely not something you want around. Very Dark, very heavy. I suggest you take the video down asap.

Just a quick note. It is possible you entered an area of a vortex. They can be controlled by light or dark energies. Often around full moons or Solstice time(s) they can shift from one side to the other. I agree you may have been in the middle of vortex controlled by darker energies at that time. Guards are usually posted and present and will also track you through the area until you leave.

[edit on 30-6-2007 by Here Now]

just my own opinion i wouldn't get freaked out about it all, i really lean towards the non-paranormal in this case, maybe if he hadn't mentioned the broom, it'd be just a tad bit more interesting. But i think it was just you 2 in that desert that day. However when my cat wakes up (who is from mars), i'll be sure to taunt him with extra catnip if he'll spill the beans on humanoids in the desert etc.
-meeeoww
-fdisc0

Observe50: As promised the 5 minutes 'after' the "witch comments video' [dang does that make sense? ] is here. Take care, and look to hear from you soon. I still need to align your script to the original audio with mine. Like yourself, I too, need to hit the sack. Take care,

External link to ifilm.com

Wish us luck.

After watching the original video by the OP I could swear that the first "witch" comment made by your son is a reference to an upcoming holiday.....

"Easter's coming"

As for the rest, I can't say, but if this is taken into account, due to the time of year (march) how does this change things?

Just my 2 centimes.

Have fun "off-roading" with your son in future and keep on "rocking".

Weird...Because if I remember right, as a kid when I saw Wizard of Oz, The Wicked Witch of the East died when Dorthy's house landed on her When she spun into Oz. The main witch depicted in the movie is the Wicked Witch of the West. so why would he remember such a minute detail in a movie? That is if I don't remember it correctly. Maybe the Wicked Witch of the East was mentioned more. Or maybe I have them backwards.

I didn't really care about the visuals or lack of or uncertainty of.

I considered what the OP's Son said very unusual. Very.

The No No No part is very interesting.

I dont have anything in the way of paranormal experiences, thank god... assuming there is one! lol

This place makes you question everything! Which is the intrique.

What I do have experience in is mothering. I have 4 boys, all with very vivid imaginations. My youngest is 7, lets use him for an example. At 7 they still have the little baby, mouse voice they are born with.

I let him watch the video (I cant see anything, didnt figure he would). When he heard that second 'NOOO' he said, quote 'Thats not the little boy talking right now mama'. And his excitement level went from 'grrr what mama' to 'Oh my god', face glued to the laptop I asked, 'then who is it'? (laughingly). He said 'an ugly ol woman they didnt want to take with them'.

Now mind you, he is 7 and may just see older woman as being mean (dont know why he would) and having a harsh voice. But what freaks me out most is now he is trying to mimic the 'NOOO' and it is NOT EVEN POSSIBLE for him to sound at all like that.

So, I wont be showing him anymore ATS, though it seemed innocent enough. He knows what we want to know but cant explain it. If others arent opposed to showing their small children this, maybe they would better explain what the baby in the video is experiencing and what my son experienced that made the video SO interesting to him.

Trying to get him to stop this! I said 'just growl like a lion when you say no and it will sound like that boy' It doesnt... not even close. Its as though his vocal chords arent even developed enough to get out that level of sound.

I just want him to stop with the 'Nooo' creepy crap! I should have known better but you know us... curious kitties.

Also, babies dont use that 'tone'. When he said no he meant NO and it was said in a fashion that made daddy not even consider the trail as an option for a second longer. Most adults cant be *that* convincing.

I hope someone comes along with more on this. I also hope my baby stops mimicing it... or trying to. We live and we learn.

Isla,

Your sons comments and response to the video make this even more interesting.

I'm gonna get back to work here because I couldn't make out some stuff then I'll go through the new stuff.

I have trouble with some of the things and in those areas you can help me because you understand your son and you were right there.

This I believe is way above a three years old imagination.

The wicked witch of the east was the bad witch under the house.

Whoa, you guys are freaking me out after reading your replies. "Ga-Gene Simmons"????? Where'd that come from?

Seriosly though, I'm gonna wait 'til stockburn talks to his son again I wanna hear what his son says about what happened.

Peace

This is what I have of what you posted first.

You - Now this is some ...

Mitch - The Wicked Witch of the East is coming

You - The Wicked Witch of the East is coming

Mitch - Yes

You - I think the only thing coming is a lot of shake rock going up this steep hill

Mitch - see, there is no rocks

Mitch - there is the witch again

You - I don't know if you can make that out but that is some serious road.

You - That's a steep hill, I hope this is the hill we wanted. I don't know if it was or not to be honest.

Mitch - Daddy

You - Yep

Mitch - The Wicked Witch of the East is here

You - I think I need to put my rear locker in

Mitch - Why

You - Oh, I don't know -- should we go up that one

Mitch - no

You - We should go up this one then, right

Mitch - (very loud) NO

You - It's okay we have the rear lockers in, we are fine buddy

Mitch - Don't

You - Damn this is a steep hill

Mitch - this is ....

You - Oh, man! This sucks, this thing

Mitch - Dad, the Wicked Witch of the East is in them things

Mitch - Daddy, look at the ??? it's wings at me

You - Women ..... Women (please, don't quit your day job, lol.)

Mitch - See, do you hear her, that's why she's coming, do you hear her?

You - Am I clear on your side Mitch or am I gonna hit the big rock

Mitch - yes

You - That is probably true, huh?

You - We gotta go slow huh?

Mitch - The Wicked Witch of the East is coming on her broom

You - She's the Wicked Witch of the Woah, big, big, rock

Mitch - Dad

You - Woah

Mitch - See, she hears the music

Mitch - I don't know what she's saying to me

Mitch - Gene SaSimmons, do you hear her. ( the music playing is Gene Simmons-KISS)

You - Sashami

You - snort

Mitch - Either says, see, she's gone or See, she's got it--- take the mike ?

You - Ahh, that's probably gonna hit the diff isn't it

You - Whew

You - This is what they call off roading people, EWW, EWW, etc.

Mitch - The Wicked Witch of the East is coming

You - Aww, this sucks, (s-word)

You - I can't see where the freakin road is, I think there is a f...ing cactus right there

Mitch - I think the Wicked Witch of the East is on the road, and she is riding on her broom

You - OMG, look at the Quartz rock over there, Jesus C..... it's like as big as a house, that's cool, lordy.

Mitch - What about the accordion (or it might be) we should put the cord in
(((I'm thinking do you have cord to plug so the loud music doesn't disturb others)))

You - What's that buddy

Mitch - What's all that junk out here?

Mitch - You knew that before hand little miss yellow (fly?) here, Mitch is loud (yelling) here I think trying to get your attention he says, Dad, see the witch, see.

You - Sashami

Mitch - I think he's pleading for you to look sounds like he says, please, the machine, pleaseeeee

You- I think we made it dude

You - I ain't going over there, that off camber

Mitch - Pleaseeee

You - That's a tiny road

Mitch - Pleaseeeeee.........Pleaseeeeeeeeee...............Pleaseeeeeeeee

You - WEEEEEEEEE

Mitch - Pleaseeee

You - Holy smokes there is a road that goes way back there

Mitch - Pleaseeeeeeee

You - I guess we can go take this road and maybe it will hit that main road, snort.











[edit on 30-6-2007 by observe50]

I spoke with my son son this morning on the event. He didn't seem to react oddly or anything. He stated to me the "witch was following us on the road, sometimes walking, and sometimes running". I asked if she was flying at any point. He stated no. He also said she was "throwing fireballs" our way.

Observe50: "Why did you turn off the recorder at the percise moment do you remember?"

I believe I stopped it after the ascent because of a needed rest and to take a drink.

"Has your son made any comment when you just watched this together?"

He recalls it definately. I asked him about the word "Pleaseeee" and he said no, I was saying "east". ???

i've been following this thread with alot of interest anyway, but your most recent post perked that interest up even more. You would think if he was making it up, your son would have said "yes" when asked if the witch was flying.
This is strange, i have to thank you for putting the videos up, i've watched it a few times now and the strangest bit is when your son says "i dont know what she's saying to me"

really interesting.
Observe50: does the little boy actually say "wicked"?...i thought he just said "witch".....in fact, yes, just listened to it again....he doesnt say "wicked witch".....just...."witch"

its so odd that he refers to her as the "witch of the east"....i cant figure that one out. And if he HAD somehow got it from the Wizard of Oz....why fireballs?....as far as i recall, there were no fireballs in that movie.

thanks anyway for a great story.
and ps...i think your singing is lovely

Yeah, the Wicked Witch of the West through a fireball at the scarecrow and caught him on fire.

(I don't think he's saying wicked witch either...just witch).

I must say, this is an interesting thread. Your sons comments are very wierd and out of the ordinary. I will be following the thread and giving my thoughts when I can help.

Originally posted by Islamorada

Trying to get him to stop this! I said 'just growl like a lion when you say no and it will sound like that boy' It doesnt... not even close. Its as though his vocal chords arent even developed enough to get out that level of sound.

Everyones voices are different, and I've heard toddlers in a tantrum mimic that exact 'no'. What I do find intresting is how angry/frightened he is when you mention going up that hill - although maybe he was tired/bored? Kids do weird stuff when their trying to entertain themselves.

Intresting thread either way, nice to have a vid that isn't some blurry half on/half off shot of a 'ghost' whilst the person filming has a fit.

Hope we can come to some form of conclusion on this one!

Mad

WTF is going on here?
How can people construde so much speculation into something so benign just stuns me.....????????

Kids will say the strangest things and often agree with a parents comments regardless.
Do you REALLY think that a "witch" is involed here?

sorry for any anger, but this just makes me laugh.

[edit on 30/6/2007 by nerbot]

I believe your right after listening I can only hear Mitch say, witch of the East. At 2:25 you say the wicked witch of the East and I ran with it, me bad.

Some of his words are hard because the radio is blasting and you are talking also. I would sit with him and have him point to locations, stop and start. Ask him how big she is? Ask him why he thinks he is seeing a witch? Ask him how he heard her with all the music? How close to the car was she? Why he called her the Witch of the East? Be careful though don't be serious.... play with it so he doesn't dwell on it. When I was done asking everything I could I would say Man, daddy missed all the good stuff Mitch, next time tell me to stop so you can show me, then we can take pretty pictures to hang on the wall if you want. Be smart about it and he should handle it okay.

I saw two area's where there could have possibly have been fireballs in the sky but you did have quite a bit of glare on the windshield. How would Mitch know what fireballs are?

I will say I am so very impressed with your boy. Mitch seems to be extremely intelligent. The way he expressed himself for a 3 yr. old just blows my mind away.

I watched the new times you posted of the before and after. Your son acted totally different in those time frames. He handles the camera great and his toes were cute.

Suggestion the next time you go please not only for your safety but especially for your sons. Make sure your GPS is FULLY charged.

Observe50:

I will try and sit down with him later tonight. During the day he has too much energy to harness down.

As far as fireballs, it is possible he picked them up from one of the cartoons he watches on occasion. ?

I agree, prior to and after the witch comments he is relaxed and just having a good time which is why I had posted this in the beginning. His behavior during his witch comments was just unsettling and not was not in his usual character.

As far as the GPS goes, that is why in one of the other videos, I had set down the camera (still running) to find the cigaratte power cable for it. There are soo many miles of dirt road out there, it is real easy to get disoriented and lost.

I think next time I go out, I will try and fabricate some type of mount for the camera on the dash. A challenge for sure to 4 wheel in a wash and hold a camera.

Take care and have great one!

I stumbled in off the 'street' of the boards in general into this thread yesterday and after having a somewhat weird night after commenting on the alien drones, I was in somewhat of a more paranoid nature and my mind was overclocked with weirdness, but here's my observations.

1. When I play this, I get the 'chill', I don't pretend to be psychic, but IMO a lot of what we don't know is just that we don't know about it. Things like inter-dimensional portways and the like could well be grounded in science if we understood them and science believed.

I was watching something the other day and my other half said "why do the lights go out when he goes weird?". To which I replied about the whole electromagnetic spectrum and how it can interact, why do we need to think this is any different?

It is my feverent belief that there are 'things' that are as we would class them, 'not of this world', but are either actually acutely a part of it, or are from somewhere else where our science doesn't exist. That would explain 'magick' and 'science' and Clarke's magick=technology (I'm paraphrasing) speech.

I think children, because of the lack of conditioning, or perhaps some natural occurance (babies in particular with their half closed skull seem to be perceptible to weirdness) can sense and see things we cannot. Its like people who are actually adult, but mentally children seem to be more attuned to the weird side of the scale, which leads me to believe its mostly mental conditioning, either for our own safety (look at how some people with 'gifts' go nuts trying to live normally) or because we just don't want to believe.

Every time I grab the cat and park her infront of the monitor and play this she can't get away quick enough, its like she's on a bungee cord that's snapped tight, its weird and again, animals are like children in that we can't condition them NOT to see, its just a natural occurance for them.

Sorry to waffle, but yes, while the 'witch' could be a bush to us, it might not be to Mitch. Who are we to know if the witch is 'cloaked' to adult eyes and she may be stood near the bush. What would be interesting is:

1. A sound engineer edit this and try and seperate out the channels to reduce the music and see if we can find some weird frequencies.
2. A correlation of where the child looks - if he keeps looking at or near the same spot through the video (f.e. if he's looking out of the vehicle at the start and keeps looking, probably just his imagination, if he turns in the seat to look out the back, then there's something we can't see but he can and is trying to keep his eye on it).

I definitely think he saw something, and he says she's on a broom - well, if we assume what they do look likes magick, whats to say the reverse isn't true? There are people on remote islands who think the GIs were gods for dropping food parcels on their island accidentally. What is she wants the 'machine' is meant as the vehicle, not the music? She wants to trade her broom, which might not work in this world for a vehicle that seemingly does, seems logical to me.

Have you ever thought of going back there? It might be an interesting experience, but the problem is, of course, your kid is probably grown out of it by now ('it' leaves at about the start of puberty, so if he's under 10 MAYBE if not, well we'd need to find another participant).

To me, with some of the weird stuff I've seen, even with a science orientated mind, this is totally believeable.