Physical Immortality, The hows

Okay can't have enough time to help get some of you in to the right state of mind to understand this,
for some of you who are closer to the truth this will make more sense, and for just some of you to get this is and to start on this path is better than none


1) Know you are Immortal,
Yes the first step may sound like an oxymoron but this is how its done/ starts, You must know right now, not later, know it now and it will start the change in your energy you need to start the change in to being immortal, don't just try to believe it, don't try and con yourself in to believing it KNOW IT, Know that you are right now, not later

To quote Bruce Lee "As you think, so shall you become" This is Very True

Physical Immortality is all about energy, your energy, and a higher spirtual energy (that you will connect to via your crown chakra, as you develope) your mind directs your energy with your thoughts,
by knowing you are physical immortal your energy will start moving in that wayand begin the first step in your change,

(it would also help you to find books on "Creative Visualisation" to understand how your thoughts and energy create things in your life, I did alittle homework for you on this and a writer by the name of Shakti Gawain seems to be popular on the subject of Creative Visualisation )


2) Your mind, Your energy
Now that you know that your energy is the most important part of this
and that how you think directs this energy the next thing you need to be aware of is your consciousness

all mortals have minds full of junk and bad habits,
you need to get rid of this junk, remember the way you think directs your energy, it doesn't take a genius to work out what happens to your energy with your head full of crap,

and this is why people with hard lives and depression age faster than others, their mind direct their energy in destructive ways, and their bodies take that toll, age is not about time, age is about scaring done on a cellular level to your body, your cells being damaged due to things like smoking and drinking, etc, but most of all the way you think, your body can regenerate this damage if it weren't for either misdirecting your energy on other things (bad habits and junk thoughts), or worse using it to do harm to yourselves (stress, depression, hate, anger, etc)

The more you clean up your mind, the cleaner and stronger your energy will become, you need to weed out all your junk thoughts, bad habits and major fears

Things like, do not lie, and saying what you mean,
things you know to be right,

Btw, No immortals smoke, or drink alcohol, ever, and being a vegetarian is very common, but there are some that still eat meat



(Why am I doing this? To put pressure on some of these people, they don't want me talking about this, (and as of this moment no world goverment knows anything about this, and anything they would have seen would have been misproscribe to something else) but they can't stop me, )

And before I forget, I confronted to mods on why the last thread on this subject was close (which by anyones standards, claiming to close a thread down because of RV, (which in fact was a lie) is just alittle, hu insane, lol

Anyway he later stated that it was because that certain people complained, and that my posts were too short, and weren't going anywhere (or so he thought)

well he just should of said so, instead of lying about a bogus RV,
it would have been nice to have had the real reason post for the closer of that thread, instead of so lame ass attempt at character assassination

The RV was either badly badly wrong, or a blantant lie,


Everything I've told you is true,

Harper_, I've read through your last thread and wondered if you have any particular exercises to accomplish something that is so hard to believe as this. Many people will discard this thread as useless, so please prove otherwise so that we can get going on this topic. I'm not entirely convinced that a thing like this is possible, but I would surely like to be.
Is this any different from regular psychic training? Just meditating and experimenting? Or are there fixed elements. Please clarify the way a little more.


- Chris

Hey Harper,

Just an aside, you can drink alcohol and smoke tobacco to be physical immortal. Just make sure there are no synthetic materials in either, and moderation.

Contrary to the Ministers of Dis-Information, tobacco is a plant, not a drug, with beneficial properties.

Originally posted by infinitethoughts
Hey Harper,

Just an aside, you can drink alcohol and smoke tobacco to be physical immortal. Just make sure there are no synthetic materials in either, and moderation.

Contrary to the Ministers of Dis-Information, tobacco is a plant, not a drug, with beneficial properties.

Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive and destroys many families and careers. Tobacco makes people cough up tar and dead pieces of lungs. Thanks, but no thanks.

What is RV?

sb2012, RV stands for RemoteViewing. It's basically watching a place from a large (or small) distance. The cool thing is that you can watch places you've never been. Still lookin for good techniques, reading books on it now


- Chris

Originally posted by sb2012

Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive and destroys many families and careers. Tobacco makes people cough up tar and dead pieces of lungs. Thanks, but no thanks.

Ahhhh....I see you listen well to the Ministers of Dis-information.


The dead pieces of "lungs" is phlegma from all the pollutants in the air, that the ancient healing plant is helping your body cough up.

Too bad the Ministers of Dis-information where not around the past 10 thousands years, the length we've been smoking the ancient medicinal plant tobacco. The ancients would have laughed and spit in their faces.

Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive when they abuse it ?

Notice I used the word moderation above.
A persons lack of will power is not my problem.

Well done Harper! This is a well established early phase for immortality. There are documented cases of Taoist living beyond two hundred years. Though it appears to me they became energy “vampires” usually of young girls. Others take the life force from trees. Yet some are content with developing the measure given them at birth. While the path you are on is correct some are unwilling to leave the clay vessel when the time of departure comes. This is disastrous. However if one lives the right way as you suggest, at the time of their judgment less of the memory is removed (providing they pass). The energy is one of two bodies that become one after judgment the other is crystal. In fact it is all the same material as is water, vapor, steam and ice. It is all Elohem. The new body is transparent and has a bit of the features of all our planets races. Such is the falsehood of prejudice. The wings in this new dimension of vapor almost fluid existence are used more like swimming than flying. No blinking. No breathing. No pain. This is the truly immortal body. Some that are living now, perhaps you Harper will be brought there without ever knowing death. Shalom.

Originally posted by ChrisDeemian
Harper_, I've read through your last thread and wondered if you have any particular exercises to accomplish something that is so hard to believe as this. Many people will discard this thread as useless, so please prove otherwise so that we can get going on this topic. I'm not entirely convinced that a thing like this is possible, but I would surely like to be.
Is this any different from regular psychic training? Just meditating and experimenting? Or are there fixed elements. Please clarify the way a little more.


- Chris

Proof isn't doable outside of meeting someone in person, and I understand your doubt, but non the less this is true,

this isn't about any form of psychic training, that aspect developes on its own,

each person will develope at diffirent rate and in a differnt way, meditating will help alot, not experimenting, but growing

Originally posted by infinitethoughts
Hey Harper,

Just an aside, you can drink alcohol and smoke tobacco to be physical immortal. Just make sure there are no synthetic materials in either, and moderation.

Contrary to the Ministers of Dis-Information, tobacco is a plant, not a drug, with beneficial properties.

LOL, no, no immortal drinks or smokes, needless to say they could if they wanted, but they don't

Originally posted by sb2012

Originally posted by infinitethoughts
Hey Harper,

Just an aside, you can drink alcohol and smoke tobacco to be physical immortal. Just make sure there are no synthetic materials in either, and moderation.

Contrary to the Ministers of Dis-Information, tobacco is a plant, not a drug, with beneficial properties.

Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive and destroys many families and careers. Tobacco makes people cough up tar and dead pieces of lungs. Thanks, but no thanks.

What is RV?

You don't need to be told that both drinking and smoking kills,

RV = Remote Viewing

Originally posted by infinitethoughts

Originally posted by sb2012

Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive and destroys many families and careers. Tobacco makes people cough up tar and dead pieces of lungs. Thanks, but no thanks.

Ahhhh....I see you listen well to the Ministers of Dis-information.

The dead pieces of "lungs" is phlegma from all the pollutants in the air, that the ancient healing plant is helping your body cough up.

Too bad the Ministers of Dis-information where not around the past 10 thousands years, the length we've been smoking the ancient medicinal plant tobacco. The ancients would have laughed and spit in their faces.

Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive when they abuse it ?

Notice I used the word moderation above.
A persons lack of will power is not my problem.

But it's poison, either way, so any amount is too much,

but seems to be the only legal way to kill yourself

Originally posted by Comforter
Well done Harper! This is a well established early phase for immortality. There are documented cases of Taoist living beyond two hundred years. Though it appears to me they became energy “vampires” usually of young girls. Others take the life force from trees. Yet some are content with developing the measure given them at birth. While the path you are on is correct some are unwilling to leave the clay vessel when the time of departure comes. This is disastrous. However if one lives the right way as you suggest, at the time of their judgment less of the memory is removed (providing they pass). The energy is one of two bodies that become one after judgment the other is crystal. In fact it is all the same material as is water, vapor, steam and ice. It is all Elohem. The new body is transparent and has a bit of the features of all our planets races. Such is the falsehood of prejudice. The wings in this new dimension of vapor almost fluid existence are used more like swimming than flying. No blinking. No breathing. No pain. This is the truly immortal body. Some that are living now, perhaps you Harper will be brought there without ever knowing death. Shalom.

I didn't know this was documented, and I'd be very interested in founding out which books you saw this in,

As for Taoist, I know very little, and I've never seen any immortal " psychic vampires"

As for the rest of your comments, I can't relate,

Originally posted by Harper_
But it's poison, either way, so any amount is too much,

but seems to be the only legal way to kill yourself

No, no. Tobacco is a plant. A non-poisonous plant with healing qualities.

The "poisonous" part is overdoing it.
As you can be poisoned by drinking 10 gallons of water.

[edit on 1-7-2007 by infinitethoughts]

[edit on 1-7-2007 by infinitethoughts]

Originally posted by sb2012
Alcohol makes people dumb and aggressive and destroys many families and careers. Tobacco makes people cough up tar and dead pieces of lungs. Thanks, but no thanks.

What is RV?

The little entity called the ego is what does that - not the alcohol.
Being a person who is not against drinking (im not all that keen on the taste so I dont drink often...maybe a couple times a year) I can say Im mellow - not aggresive.

But the point of the matter is, whatever it is the alcohol wakes up...it was already there.
Call it a dormant pain body, if I can use the words of Eckhart.

So the thing is in the person, these things just wake up what is there.

As for tobacco...as someone said it is a plant, but from my understanding you are not smoking just tobacco when you buy cigs...
I personally dont enjoy the feel of smoke in my lungs, so I have chosen not to smoke.

Peace

Dalen

Originally posted by infinitethoughts
Notice I used the word moderation above.

Yep, moderation. But we all endulge in something.
What is it that 'your' (people in general not the poster) addicted to?
It will show you a light on where you are at...which typically is not 'here' in the now...but in some 'story' of where you should be or should have been...anywhere but where true power exist to do something...which is the now.

Peace

Dalen

Originally posted by dAlen

Originally posted by infinitethoughts
Notice I used the word moderation above.

Yep, moderation. But we all endulge in something.
What is it that 'your' (people in general not the poster) addicted to?
It will show you a light on where you are at...which typically is not 'here' in the now...but in some 'story' of where you should be or should have been...anywhere but where true power exist to do something...which is the now.

Peace

Dalen

Exaccccctly.

[Harper:

I didn't know this was documented, and I'd be very interested in founding out which books you saw this in,

As for Taoist, I know very little, and I've never seen any immortal " psychic vampires"

As for the rest of your comments, I can't relate,

I was discussing Taoist such as Li Ching-Yuen born in 1678 (Ching Kang Shi 17th Year) in Chyi Jiang Hsien, Szechuan province. He died in 1928 at the age of 250 years at Kai Hsien. Most of his wives died early and he married fourteen times.
General Yang Sen wrote a report about him entitled: “A Factual Account of the 250 Year-Old Good-Luck Man” (Er Bae Wuu Shyr Suey Ren Ruey Shyr Jih) published by Jong Wai Wen Kuh of Taipai, Taiwan.
A man I studied with, Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming Ph.D. of Boston and noted for translating Taoist literature has a bit of information along these lines in many of his books. You can look into the YMAA, and the book “Muscle/Tendon Changing and Marrow/Brain Washing Chi Kung – THE SECRET OF YOUTH” You would do best to start your journey with the “Roots of Chi-Kung” and learn the basics before tackling this lesson.

As for energy vampires that I’m afraid is mostly discussed behind closed doors among practitioners.

I believe what your life is filled with is more important than its length in this existence. Our spirits are already immortal.


[edit on 27-7-2007 by Comforter]

you know im glad you started up another thread. i was interested in what you had to say(tho you didnt say much..at the time).

i have no intention of high jacking your thread(from your planned course of action). i know you have no reason to trust me(as you shouldnt....unless you be fearless), but could you outline the final step for me. the reason i ask is becuase my mind behaves very differently than common lessons can provide. if you are able to give said info, my mind would seek that point as if it were a light house in an ocean of chaos. if not thats cool, ill just sit back and listen to you go in circles:/


since you claim to be immortal i have a question of you. is your mortality/immortality connected to your consciousness? if so- does said consciousness have to be maintained or have it(immortality) be lost? if so- how complex is its procedure?

I've heard of men drinking poison and withstanding it. Why should smoking and drinking kill an immortal.

I could go with the fact that such intention is not to an immortal because of addiction. But he may at will do such things, altough it would be a form of enjoyment, but then again, he wouldn't enjoy it more than his own level of awareness, aint it.?

yeah, must be something like that..