I have an idea to solve the NWO and Illuminati problem

I have an idea to solve the NWO and Illuminati problem.

Since we do not like these two groups, why not set the NWO group against the Illuminati group and let the two groups finish each other off? This way, we can kill two birds with one stone.

I think that it is an idea that can work. Why do you guys think?

I came up with this solution while studying Britain's efforts to set the Nazis against the Bolsheviks during the 1930s.


And by this date, certain members of the Milner Group and of the British Conservative government had reached the fantastic idea that they could kill two birds with one stone by setting Germany and Russia against one another in Eastern Europe.

In this way they felt that the two enemies would stalemate one another, or that Germany would become satisfied with the oil of Rumania and the wheat of the Ukraine.

It never occurred to anyone in a responsible position that Germany and Russia might make common cause, even temporarily, against the West. Even less did it occur to them that Russia might beat Germany and thus open all Central Europe to Bolshevism.

In order to carry out this plan of allowing Germany to drive eastward against Russia, it was necessary to do three things:

(1) to liquidate all the countries standing between Germany and Russia;

(2) to prevent France from honoring her alliances with these countries; and

(3) to hoodwink the English people into accepting this as a necessary, indeed, the only solution to the international problem.

The Chamberlain group were so successful in all three of these things that they came within an ace of succeeding, and failed only because of the obstinacy of the Poles, the unseemly haste of Hitler, and the fact that at the eleventh hour the Milner Group realized the implications of their policy and tried to reverse it...

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[edit on 26-6-2007 by Ickey]

Originally posted by Ickey
I have an idea to solve the NWO and Illuminati problem.

Since we do not like these two groups, why not set the NWO group against the Illuminati group and let the two groups finish each other off? This way, we can kill two birds with one stone.

Very intriguing. And Good Thinking!!! on using the past history of mankind to create another instance happneing for the better good of all mankind.

But i pose a question: What will be the ignitor to set them both firing at each other? Seriously, we're talking about the Illuminati and its under-programs who are very powerful.

Another Question: Is the NWO really another group? I thought it was an AGENDA for the Illuminati to follow and to enact. But if i am wrong about this, then look at the question before this! lol

But a very intresting question nonethelss, and deserves further investigation.

First things first, is NWO group and Illuminati group the same group?

Are there members who belong in both groups?

i would say that there is probably a lot of that going on already.

i dont know a lot about the illuminati other that it was started a long time ago by adam wiesap or something like that. And the NWO is a modern day elite group. I dont think they are the same, but it is like comparing apples to oranges i think.

i dont think that there is an intack one illuminated group. that group was around when there were very few angles and resources to exploit. today there are many, and even many more players. they all work within the guildlines of the the originals, they respect eachothers hussles, but they are also trying to get the upper hand on eachother all the time.

there is only so much power to go around.


unless we are controlled with shape shifting lizards in which case, good luck with that.

Originally posted by Ickey
First things first, is NWO group and Illuminati group the same group?

Are there members who belong in both groups?

I think that should be our first step!! LOL, after that we can see what our COA (Course of Action) should be concerning them. And when we do, is this considered a coup de etat in a sense becuase we're tyring to overthrow a regime , which doesnt officially exist , through sabatage.

EHHHHHH WAHTEVA!!!! Lets just see if the NWO is a group or not

Which country is most under NWO influence and which country is most under Illuminati influence?

We can hatch a plan to instigate a war between the two countries.

In this way, NWO group and Illuminati group can be destroyed.

You're right! OMFG!!! I can't believe we didn't all see it before! Set the NWO against the Illuminati.. brilliant!!!!!!! We finally have a plan to get them!! Gosh golly, I hope it works. Go ahead and get the Illuminati's number, then we'll get the NWO's number, and we'll leave a nasty message on the NWO's answering machine saying it was from the Illuminati about the NWO's Mamma. That'll get 'em for sure! Good luck and let me know how it goes! I'm glad your time has been spent cradling this purely unique idea.. too bad I couldn't have thought of it first..

Originally posted by Ickey
Which country is most under NWO influence and which country is most under Illuminati influence?

We can hatch a plan to instigate a war between the two countries.

In this way, NWO group and Illuminati group can be destroyed.

LMFAO what if we inadvertantly just accelerate the killings of billions of people. I dont think there are any 1 country under most influence, i think they all are. and i dont think we still havent substansiated the claim of wheter or not the NWO is really another group. Why cause more mass calamity other than to inform people of this, rather then killing possible beilevers? This method ur suggesting is just an equation for the formula of death; war.

okay, which organisations are under NWO or Illuminati influence?

The whole idea behind a "New World Order" or Illuminati secret society is that one would never really know (for sure) who was in on it.

There are many who are part of both sides of the shroud. Yet it seems the goal of both seem to be the same.

While the lower tiers of power may be at odds with each other, the higher ups in most of these "secret" socieites are in bed with each other.

They all want more power and money. Why not collaborate with other like-minded individuals? We do the same, why not the greedy and powerful? Granted they may not be as rich after cooperating, but I'm sure once your wealth reaches the trillions there is no real difference anyway.

Just my 2 cents.

Then why use confusing terms such as NWO or Illuminati to describe elites?

All countries have elites. Those in government, politics or those who have great wealth. Those who own media co-operations and then spread their lies and propaganda.

Just call them elites. American elite, british elite etc.

Why use terms such as NWO and Illuminati?

The term elite may not truly describe the whole idea behind the "new world order" (which is really a regurgitation of the old world order, just a new form of control-mind control).

The NWO, Illuminati, Masons, whatever you call them...Their goal is the same. Not everyone from this group is "bad" mind you or wishes to rule the world. That is part of the scam.

If there was an organization that was truly rotten to the core, it would be hard to keep afloat. All the greed and malice would quickly sink the ship.

However, to have some "good" members wishing to help out humanity allows the group to maintain the illusion of saints. If the "bad" ones are not exposed for who they are and the good are portrayed as the majority of the society, they will be allowed by the general populace to continue existence.

I think you know where this is going.

The elite's goal (not all of them mind you, there are always good and bad people mingling together on the same platform) in general is to shift the wealth from the world to their personal bank account.

"The rich get richer while the poor get poorer."

Such has been the life for thousands of years. We have been duped.

By paying taxes you further burden the poor. They are being thrown out of their homes by the day, while some of us sit in luxury and don't even take notice to reality.

We have become complacent.

Whether Americans, Brits, Chinese, or Indian, we all share the same burden. We are dealing with those who do not care. How does one deal with apathy? With LOVE.

Love conquers all. Ignorance will be torn down when the truth is know by all.

Brainwashing can only go so far. Once the people realize what is going on, governments and countries will crumble...

Not long now friends.

If one must take action, one must be clear.

Using terms such as NWO, Illuminati only distracts and confuses real issues.

Originally posted by Ickey
Since we do not like these two groups, why not set the NWO group against the Illuminati group and let the two groups finish each other off? This way, we can kill two birds with one stone.

The general consensus among 'mainstream' conspiracy theorists is that the 'New World Order' is a project/agenda created by, not a faction allied with, the Illuminati. It's comparable to military project going rogue against the U.S government.
However it could be feasible that the 'NWO' does go 'rogue', either due to altruistic 'controllers' or other means, and ends up protecting us from the Illuminati.
And don't get me started on the Technopoly.

"The Family" doesn't really call itself the Illuminati or the NWO.

To understand the organization do a google on "Svali" and read her story.

(BTW "Svali" has vanished since her story hit the internet)

The organization is very similar to the christian church, there are many denominations which form a loose confederation, but at the highest levels, are managed and controlled in a unified fashion with the same goals.

Also do a study of MPD/DID (Multiple Personality Disorder / Disassociative Identity Disorder) and of SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) to understand the methods of control the Family uses.

They are everywhere, they are the founders of Communism, Nazism, the Arab/Israeli Conflict etc etc.

They have had control of almost the whole world for the last 100 years.

They are imbedded in every human institution that has any power or control of any human purpose.

They are here on this forum, and they watch everyone.

Their primary tool of advancement has been to create conflicts and then inject "Their Solutions".....and yes their goal is a one world government.

They are too big to be defeated as they have their ear to every form of communication and they would interceed in any attempt to stop them long before any group could organize and fight back.

Plus, how can you fight something that you can't see?

How can you fight something that most people don't even believe exists?

Originally posted by JFree
"The Family" doesn't really call itself the Illuminati or the NWO.

To understand the organization do a google on "Svali" and read her story.

(BTW "Svali" has vanished since her story hit the internet)

The organization is very similar to the christian church, there are many denominations which form a loose confederation, but at the highest levels, are managed and controlled in a unified fashion with the same goals.

Also do a study of MPD/DID (Multiple Personality Disorder / Disassociative Identity Disorder) and of SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) to understand the methods of control the Family uses.

They are everywhere, they are the founders of Communism, Nazism, the Arab/Israeli Conflict etc etc.

They have had control of almost the whole world for the last 100 years.

They are imbedded in every human institution that has any power or control of any human purpose.

They are here on this forum, and they watch everyone.

Their primary tool of advancement has been to create conflicts and then inject "Their Solutions".....and yes their goal is a one world government.

They are too big to be defeated as they have their ear to every form of communication and they would interceed in any attempt to stop them long before any group could organize and fight back.

Plus, how can you fight something that you can't see?

How can you fight something that most people don't even believe exists?

This is nonsense, you have no evidence to back your claims.

All just empty speculation.

For a clearer picture of the organization, do a study of the KGB.

No I don't think there are many "Good" people within the family....they have all been programmed via SRA and have a programmed addiction to the dark side and they are controlled with the fear of death if they screw up....

They are much more evil than you could possibly imagine.

But at the same time they are much more sophisticated than any could know.

What I am saying here is not speculation, but comes from personal experience.

You can choose to not believe what I say....its a free internet.

Of course your attack on what I am saying here, could identify you as one of them.

Big allegations requires big evidence.

So far there is no evidence that shows that what you claim is true.

You mentioned the KGB, I will give you CIA:

www.foia.cia.gov...

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Originaly posted by jarhead jock Very intriguing. And Good Thinking!!! on using the past history of mankind to create another instance happneing for the better good of all mankind.

I couldn't agree more.

However all the research and threads I have read usually consider this to be one purpose, one entity. The Illuminati pretty much run the world as it is now. The NWO is there primary goal, it's been the original plan all along. Once the NWO does happen The Illuminati will surely will still be pulling the strings.....Well until ET comes in the picture and destroys there sinister plot