[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

Sys, I'm working on it, but holiday time my access to the tv, pc is superceeded by family.

Fellow ATSers and particularly ARC , our very own Dr.Dil just prepared the following video..


I cannot express in words the hard work this man, our brother, has done on behalf of the ARC and the uncompromising search for truth. No amount of applause will ever be enough.

Thank you Dr.Dil and Thank you Marc Antonio



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I can just hear the screaming and gnashing of teeth as the disenfranchised proclaim:

"Yeah Mates...so, that's just HIS opinion!"


Extremely well done, Dr. Dil and Sys!

MEGAKUDOS!!!

Good news I just purchased an Alienware Lap on Ebay,

that comes with the original manual, theme managers, shipping container, packaging material, etc.
It will take a few days to get to me. I can then review all the internal file creation dates and materials. rather than deal with this slow, albeit revealing, trickle of info I have been getting from various tech sites.
I posted in profile a few days ago the release info of the infamous 8600m nvidia card, first announced in May 9 2007,
i215.photobucket.com...
which plagued a select fewsuch as AW and Dell, and several other Nvidia partners first using it, as well the internals for the drivers used in it. My lap has the card. Everything points to before Isaac, but I need more, before I can say Bad Boy! officially.
Perhaps this lap will help me do that and break the conspiracy of silence.

Also Area51 will be prviding me a copy of the ufo mexican sting operation we were unable to get and I may be able to make it accessible for everyone from a storage site for download.
Cheers






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Originally posted by Sys_Config
Good news I just purchased an Alienware Lap on Ebay, that comes with the original manual, theme managers, shipping container, packaging material, etc.

Excellent news Sys!!

Be sure to keep it away from the ‘specific field’ as you don’t want the language to self-activate before you have a chance to assess it!!

Hi Sys, apologies for being a little late wading in on the Alienware thing but to be honest I’ve never attached that much importance to it but seeing as you’ve procured one then there’s a couple of things I wanted (and feel obliged) to mention.

Firstly, it IS the *Area-51 m15x* you’ve bought, isn’t it?

Originally posted by Sys_Config
It will take a few days to get to me. I can then review all the internal file creation dates and materials. rather than deal with this slow, albeit revealing, trickle of info I have been getting from various tech sites.

Did you check to see if the motherboard was pre-existing (to the m15x)?

I’m sure it was and if so then there’s –at least- one aspect of the Alienware connection that troubles me and that is do you think it’s conceivable and indeed probable that the, “Internal files (creation dates)” and also the bios were created for the general motherboard rather than specifically for Alienware, then they just drop it into their (Alienware) case/housing?

And of course as they are essentially made to order then all of the software, drivers, bios etc. could have existed for a long time prior to the CARET design being released (via Isaac) yet still not mean anything untoward occurred.

If it is then perhaps the only way to obtain a definitive conclusion to the Alienware aspect is to contact the designers of the case (Ripley) and hope they haven’t signed an NDA so that they can inform you of the dates they first received/created the case that features the LAP schematics.

The desktop theme that feature the CARET font could easily have been created just prior to their announcement of the new release, or could have been worked on while the case was being manufactured.

Actually (and regarding the graphics), I’ve only ever seen the following desktop theme (image):



Plus if you have a close look at the image itself and if you discount the text ‘Alienware’ and its derivative (directly below it in and using the LAP symbology) then the image is essentially just one quarter mirrored throughout:





So lazily done in fact that (similar to the ‘antigrav’ device!!) even the text in the outer circles is simply mirrored meaning it’s just flipped and pasted, in all honesty a couple of hours work maximum, certainly not months of work anyway…..

Plus if you have a look at all of the other software utilities (Command centre, etc.) that are packaged with the Alienware products then the LAP doesn’t appear on ANY of them, as far as I can see they are only on the bottom of the case and the desktop theme (shown above):



Again this would suggest that the only definitive way to reach a conclusion would be to research the actual case/exterior of the notebook itself, wouldn’t it?

Also, where did you get the information that:

Originally posted by Sys_Config
I posted in profile a few days ago the release info of the infamous 8600m nvidia card, first announced in May 9 2007, which plagued a select few such as AW and Dell, and several other Nvidia partners first using it, as well the internals for the drivers used in it. My lap has the card. Everything points to before Isaac, but I need more, before I can say Bad Boy! officially.
Perhaps this lap will help me do that and break the conspiracy of silence.

I’ll tell you why Sys, the 8600 Nvidia card and indeed the full Nvidia series aren’t exclusive to Alienware, nor have they ever been. And as I said above the release dates of the drivers/utilities really is inconsequential as they have absolutely nothing to do with Alienware, unless I’m missing something?

The thing is that the Nvidia drivers are ALL backwards compatible, just have a look at the *Products Supported* section of the driver download page at:

www.nvidia.com...

And you will see that the newest driver set can be applied to over 80 of their cards (all Geforce ones) This ranges from the very early *GeForce 6100* right the way through to the *GeForce 9800 GX2* (& GTX+) plus all of its derivatives, e.g. *GeForce 8100/nForce 720a* & *GeForce 6200SE TurboCache™* etc.

And of course their two most recent, i.e. *GeForce GTX 280* (& GTX 260).

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Regarding the m51x manual, in your comments you wrote that:

Originally posted by Sys_Config
“However the following info shows that their users manual was dated October 16, 2007.”

Apart from the fact that this is over three and a half months after the Isaac documentation was initially released (and so certainly not an inconceivable timeframe) the manual you refer to is a “Generic” one. All Alienware notebooks are essentially custom-builds with each particular model and almost every aspect of it being upgradeable (at a significant cost of course). The manual even includes the following text (beginning & end of the manual):





Also in your profile you wrote that:

The earliest m15x could have had the 8600 card it first intended to use was May of 2007 when Nvidia announced it.

Firstly the m15x STILL has a 8600 (derivative) as a default/standard card.



And secondly, further down you -correctly- say that the specs and details were, “leaked Nov 13 2007”. The leaked information SPECIFICALLY states that:

“In a slip up on the Alienware website it appears the company is set to release a couple of new notebooks, the m15x and the m17x.”

Doesn’t this mean that this is the first that was ever heard of these notebooks? (Hence, “Leak”?)

I’ve threw most of the relevant information into a PDF document, available at:

www.dronehoax.com...

Originally posted by Sys_Config
Also Area51 will be prviding me a copy of the ufo mexican sting operation we were unable to get and I may be able to make it accessible for everyone from a storage site for download.
Cheers

If I can help with this just let me know…..

(Thanks for the kind words regarding the Marc D’Antonio video ).

Cheers!!

Hi DrDil, yes thats the one I purchased.thats why I have to wait until I get the Laptop..





The packing material sheets have the LAP overlays. I will be looking closely at the Theme Manager (Star Dock)Creation dates on the several Cds it comes with. I will say, In hand a lot easier than glossing pix as above.. You are correct on the internals, , quite a challenge, but remember you cannot fit that particular motherboard into any laptop except the M15x, unlike some other Generic laps branded differently like clevo, sager, etc....ie the case specs had to be in their possesion before . The keyboard design is actually a carryover from Dells xp series 3 years earlier..
www.notebookreview.com... november official release
do not mention 8600 yet they are here. Simply because alienware had to halt earlier release of the m15, because of Quantas behind production schedule,
resulting from both committment to One Laptop per child, one million in fact, and more acctely, the severe heating problems the 8600 that were discovered in the other laptops using the same card..
hp apple mac, etc released before Alienware that resulted in a massive halt and dread word in the industry,Recall...
Lawsuits by nvidia are still pending on that one.
Thus the delay, imo, or even sudden silence and lack of activity in July of 2007. It was almost palpable.
The ones released in January of 2008, had the 8700 card, later the 8800 and 9800 that were stable .
My lucky break I have this one. with the 8600
outlined in the uk AW site here
www.alienware.co.uk... in the tech specs tab.
The point of the )ctober 16 generic manual was to shorten the execution time between Isaac date, first sighting of design and a finalized product.The shorter, the more likely Alienware was involved.
Remember Alienwares first PM to banzai, they just saw it and immediately liked it, just like Android..
I wish I was an asembly line manager who could tell you how long the process actually takes.
The plastics/metal case maker has to be determined..sub'd out no doubt.\ to Quanta who makes 80 percent of the worlds laptops, assembled in different stages, and different places as part of a grander assembly chain.
Its fortuitous I found this one with the original manuals.

Even so Dr., I will be first to admit, and it weighs quite heavily on me, because this is like proving the existence of a black hole, all done by indirect evidence, but we know they are there,I think, or there are a lot of little elves with straws thruout the universe..
Bits and scraps..is all we have..not enough to hang, but too much to try and ignore..especially with he silent treatment inquiries get on such simple questions.
The worst..we hit hit another dead end.or .until someone in the chain talks.
Given the number of people we have encountered, I think thats a high possibility at some time. Will we live to see who?
Of course!
This is no Loch-nessie
or Yeti, as some would love to make it.

Cheers!
and on to Ripleys..Believe it or Not!












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It the laptop arrived at the US post office yesterday, today is Sunday, so I will have to pick it up tomorrow.
cheers

And thank you Area51/Gorgo for the vid dvd.., I am still thinking how to chop it up for our use. It was amazing how thourough mufon was in its studies.
I believe a lot of folx are unaware just how thorough they are.
Great stuff

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Sys, glad you got it OK and you're most welcome. I thought they did a great job on those Mexican UFOs.

It just amazes me the lengths that some people will go to promote their own agenda. And when they choose the field of UFOs it seems there are just too many ready willing and able to believe any story or any photo is a UFO with extraterrestrials.

So it makes it so easy for a hoaxer to pick this group and have their fun with such a compliant audience.

And as much as I applaud Mufon, I still think they should take their silly forum down. As it currently exists, it has turned into a free therapy session for all the weirdo wackos in UFO land. And some of these tinfoil types are becoming field investigators and MUFON should really be concerned about that. Too bad it could have been a good forum.

Yes that is a problem, and
Indeed they are..it reminds me of the PIs getting their Drone investigators clubs and paraphernalia, shirts etc, (odd marketing at the beginning of an investigation) together. to be on the lookout for drones, anyone can join..just look up at the sky, and consider yourself an eagle drone scout.
I remember one mufon investigator, who joined Bob Mariotti , one of Lindas witnesses, beyond reproach, doctorates in divine ministry, and a hypnotherapist,you remember him?that nice old man who says he was there at the beginning of time..he should know..He was there, that mufon investigator had oodles of ufo experience that even ran in the family, (almost like the gary lowery case). she said, but it would no way ever ever affect her objectivity

Wow, so this is still going on. You most certainly do not have to, but does anyone care to give an update as to what's been going on recently? I see this Alienware thing looks a lot like the CARET manuals and all. Seems like you guys have been really into this and are still actively researching. I bet the rest of ATS would love to know what's going on, it's just 300 pages is a lot to wade through.

Best of luck...

THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!

Probably not relevant to the investigation, but the drones are now popular culture.

They showed up on Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles tonight. Isaac was identified as "Abraham" and a simple version of the LAP was shown. Looks like the drones on the show are the early version of the HKs.

There's no escaping them now!

I was watching too.

Remember when the series first started? Fox was using lots of viral-type advertisements for the show. Remember the 2 red eyes that appeared randomly in fox shows for a while?

I have not been following the drone story so forgive me if this isn't even possible but what if FOX was responsible for the whole thing from the start?



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Prior to its broadcast on television, Fox undertook a large marketing effort to promote the show, which was described by Joe Earley, Fox Executive Vice President of Marketing and Communications, as the "biggest campaign for a new mid-season show in years."[39] The advertising campaign began months prior to the premiere date to make sure that it would attract existing Terminator fans as well as welcome in new fans.[40] After 24 was postponed to the 2008-09 TV season, more time was devoted to the show by Fox's marketing team and more on-air promotional spots were available for the show that would otherwise have gone to 24.[40] Fox began their advertising campaign for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles on September 27, 2007, with a brief teaser which ran during primetime programs, consisting of an image of two red dots that lasted for a few seconds on screen before disappearing.[39] The two red dots were revealed to be the eyes of the Terminators from the show in the second phase of the advertising campaign, which began two weeks later. The final phase of the campaign commenced in November 2007 with more broadcast information being added to the advertisements. In addition to on-air teasers, Fox heavily promoted the show during the World Series by releasing the first 45-second preview for the show on October 27, 2007. Other forms of advertisements used included: mobile tours on "Terminator" buses sponsored by Verizon Wireless; an interactive cell phone game based on the series offered by Verizon's V CAST, which rewarded the players with ring tones, wallpapers and behind-the-scenes footage; cable tie-ins; online outreach via the official website and wiki; online sneak peeks; and a poster design contest run by Fox.[41] Advance screenings of the pilot episode were also held at the 2007 Comic-Con International convention and at Golden Apple Comics in Los Angeles on January 4, 2008. Billboard advertisements, which were described by Variety to have "blanketed New York and L.A.", contained images of Summer Glau's Terminator in a "Lady Godiva-esque pose" used to target the young-male demographic, while the key art emphasized on Sarah Connor being at the core of the show to attract the "mom demo".[40] Fox originally planned for more outdoor marketing in other cities but the marketing budget was reduced because of the Writers' Strike.[40] A promotional partnership with automobile manufacturer Dodge began in the show's second season and featured placement of Dodge products in several episodes, Dodge's exclusive sponsorship of the extended, 52-minute episode "Goodbye to All That," and a four-week vehicle giveaway entitled "The Never Back Down Challenge."[42]

Taken from wikipedia

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Also, the last scene of the show that just aired had a huge beautifully rendered chad drone coming for Sarah Connor. As it approached it sort of transformed into a vehicle resembling(but not quite) one of the skynet hunter\killers.

Apparently the symbols written on the drone are to play a part in the series too, as Sarahs goal was to get a translation.

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Fascinating, but I am not surprised.I have been leaning to the warner and scifi people ever since Whitley signed a movie contract, actually 2, for his upcoming 2012 war for souls with warner on June 15 of 2007 and the other Greys with sony pictures..(famous for paying off websites and fabricating blogs )These interests such as Fox/warner/universal/vivendi are no doubt all interconnected. If you check ufo stocks you will see Fox and news corp have holdings..
www.thestreet.com... like last years roswell conference they helped sponsor.

and therefore an incentive to use there creative skills to determine what gets shown on tv and papers, what communities are targeted, well you get the picture, and of course what movies get made they have essentially control of the the supply and demand..and they know how to drum up demand.particularly around ratings time which just passed and also coincides when these events seem to suddenly occurr, like april may.and of course cropcircle month in June, LMHs favorite.
Alienware is suspect because of its use of the LAP symbol and letters..some of which they trademarked, and of course their total unwillgness to answer questions. They too like Dell implement warners and other movies like superman, and games like warcraft, as themes in ther product lines and casings, as they did here with m15x models, which show a lineage back before june 26, 2007.
If Warner had the trailers and scenes by September, 2007..then that leaves less than 90 days between Isaac and the show. VERY interesting.Tighter than Alienware..as these episodes take time to shoot, and are all done by they time the are purchased by a network..
This is just another hoax viral with a possible cabal of moviemakers the usual conduit websites like Earthfiles , C2C , etc..who has worked with history channel. Even Georgie was on Sci with the other 2 of the Big Three... Its like they are all connected to the hip. Even that artist Android, connected to games and design, just hosted a a siggraph conference with Dell, owners of Alienware, this year. One heck of a party I heard. Odd all were so impressed with Isaac at the same time.
Small world isn't it?
The only thing I see reversed engineered here is Real News..
I can assure you Gentlemen, The revolution like a ufo landing, will not be televised.


If you have acess to a link(s) on that I would love to see it..and it would be very useful in helping closing out this case and the discusision can move onto something else..


Cheers and thanx for the thumbs up on that Eagle, and Tilko..I feel somewhat better now.
I love the Icons you guys have..had me laffing..lord knows we all need a chuckle..

Of course, They will never admit to taking advantage of a gullible community like ours...they will say.like Android and Alienware,
..They heard it first on c2c..

I found a few (understatement)references ..still looking for chad drone ..

www.tv.com...
saraconnerchronicles.com...

Ahh others spotted the show too.Fore and Mur





Even the Isaac Narrative is almost identical..where it says I have never seen an alien.. and "witness reports that prompted me to come foward"
But The letters are quite different..interesting..
and This is most likely why Fox gave the two PIs from a geriatric ward all that exposure, .because of the Warner connection I kept alluding to..while eyeballing whitley. He went from, calling it a crock to, dreaming about them..I am sure someone upstairs called him on that one, get with the program boy! hehehe

Here they are , looking as if they are in Hemmoroidal distress,in the Fox telecast on the fun ufo fake sites website in March 2008.
ufo-media.com...


To date..They are still looking ..for the elusive pole. They should go to warners and ask them, unless they are with the "program" already too.
Is Linda with the program, or is she just plain stupid? Will DRT get a refund from PI's in time for Christmas?
Will Nemo of DRT and Ovnis and OMF have a nervous breakdown?
Will Bren at OMF say he knew it all along
or was his "open mind" totally bereft of common sense since birth too.?


These are heart wrenching questions that may get answered soon too.
stay tuned.






















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This is fake. Im also an electrical engineer The way this person presents the report \ findings; is like a high school report. I give it a B -. being that it's only high school work. A+ for art work.

I also worked for the government. This is not the way the military or civilains write reports and findings for DOD contactors or the military for that matter, not even close. not even in the 80's nice try though.

Hoax.

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This is fake. Im also an electrical engineer The way this person presents the report \ findings; is like a high school report. I give it a B -. being that it's only high school work. A+ for art work.

I also worked for the government. This is not the way the military or civilains write reports and findings for DOD contactors or the military for that matter, not even close. not even in the 80's nice try though.

Hoax.

Hi, we know, actually white rabbit posted about 7000 posts ago..hehehe
happens all the time. Just click on the top numbers when you get to a thread..,You alsways start on page one. 1 2 3 5 >>> click on the arrows and that will bring you here to the latest page....
We know its hoax, and with recent tv programs terminator today..who did it..warner brothers and their cohorts.
hahahaha
take care..and welcome aboard.

The Sara Chronicles, a TV series, based on the Terminator movies. The series succeeds (IMHO) in part because it relates to the previous movies. The concept of artificial intelligence coming to critical mass in an instant of self realization, making a critical decision that in order to survive it must act immediately and destroy those who would threaten it, its creators.

The series presumes some familiarity with this concept which was introduced in the first Terminator and continued in the following movies.

While there may be adventures in the series episode to episode the movies set the foundation for the series. This prior knowledge is probably essential for the series to progress. Without this prior knowledge or familiarity coming from the movies the series would have to introduce these concepts and I don't know if it could've been done as well on the small screen as it was on the movie screen.

But the point I'm trying to make here is that "prior knowledge" has been used effectively in this series.

In order to use the drones as a significant storyline in upcoming episodes "prior knowledge" with the viewing public would be useful. They capitalize on this technique very well.

So the question is whether they simply took advantage of the public's "prior knowledge" of the drones and worked it into the series or did they fabricate the drones to develop "prior knowledge" so they could work it into the series?

Does anyone here have any throries as to why there were mockups of the drones as well as the Isaac documents on the tv show. "The Sarah Conner Chronicles"?

for the love of god, its NOT a viral marketing campaign..I have NEVER seen a campaign that does not eventually give the actual product or service recognition..whats the point if it doesn't do that?! Ok end of story there.

Alienware just ripped off the designs of this stuff, its a pale imitation and frankly doesn't look as good, anyone can see that. Ok end of story there.

I am however convinced this is just a plain old HOAX, no ties to dell, fox or anything else. Any gumbo with Alias Maya, Max or Lightwave could have made & rendered these objects with Mental Ray. Period.