[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

I forgot to give the credits to the right person:

It was Sysconfig all alone, who followed that trail, before I even was aware of this second CARET-thread. He tried to get informations on that designer lady and as we know, got one response.

We have to ask us, if doghead played a game - and if so, did he also act as spirals?

What kind of gag was it, when he said, he just came back from Tahoe? And Pasadena wouldn't be to far away also...

As soon as I had followed Jonathan's traces, I was rather sure, that it was himself. I u2ued doghead, just telling him, that blairwitch doesn't work all the times. He never answered to me, but he asked Sys.

Next chapter is your's, Sys!

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Originally posted by atlasastro
looks like you hunt well.....great reading.....just catching up to it all.......how does that quote in Waynes World go?....."i'm not worthy".

Now you are too modest.

Ive always had the feeling Dog Head was female, has this been confirmed 100%?

Sometimes it is and sometimes it isnt..as I said they alternate posting to get high yields..Sometimes Carey sometimes Jon who now says he just got in town while all this was happening..at his last post at pisces when he closed the thread. But I intend on conquering all their women, bringing them home, and giving them all the royal spanking they richly deserve.

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Sometimes it is and sometimes it isnt..as I said they alternate posting to get high yields..Sometimes Carey sometimes Jon who now says he just got in town while all this was happening..at his last post at pisces when he closed the thread. But I intend on conquering all their women, bringing them home, and giving them all the royal spanking they richly deserve.

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Lol you are a freaky little e-detective aren't you! This is amazing guys. I am utterly confused on all this Pisces stuff but it is good reading either way!

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yes, i definitely got a chuckle out of the tahoe comment...

I suppose my mindset is such that it is initially somewhat hard for me to believe it is ALL just a marketing scheme conceived of by a relatively small group of seemingly obscure myth-makers ... although there does seem to be some "big money" in the background, that much is true...I think that I just lean more towards this being the distraction from a larger truth...maybe not that the LAP is real in any logical sense, as I think many have sufficiently proven in their own minds that it is not, but that it's a "test" of sorts, or that the distraction is helped along by a member (or members) in a higher position let's say. Like, there were bodies, but they were crash test dummies that people were seeing, and there was a cover-up, but it had to do with chinese balloon bombs...not ufo's....know what im saying? Well, anyway, just that it smells to me like there really IS something highly deceptive going on, but that this is being used as the cover for that, instead of being PURELY a marketing ploy wholly invented without the help of paid deception experts....but as more info is forthcoming that opinion may very well change.

Peeling the layers of an onion is a tedious thing..and process may at time bring tears..our current target..is no exception..their practice at deception here is an example of how a group can infiltrate swarm and change opinion by sheer postings example Doghead 798 to date..and some friends he has picked sizzle 498, newworldorder, dalen 1465, Buddhasystems, the same in relatively short periods of time..
its no longer I wanna believe its you WILL believe.. So..right now I am researching something I missed at the beginning with the email and Nocturne productions..
yes Fortwynt.. its said money is the root of all evil but i must add to that so is the lack of it..to motivate people to this to pay off investors..you have to produce and or get more investors..like a ponzi scheme..almost..but the best payoff comes from the suckers..and unfortunately we have more than a fair share in the UFO community....If something else comes you know me already enough that i would never withold from any of you..and we can go on from there..winning this we must adapt quickly and part of that is facing facts as they arise whether we like them or not including being wrong as well as right.

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and that is precisely why I continue to come back, because there is absolute clarity in reference to progressive thought concerning these, and other subjects, from you, sidd, and others...you are much appreciated.

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Well, anyway, just that it smells to me like there really IS something highly deceptive going on, but that this is being used as the cover for that, instead of being PURELY a marketing ploy wholly invented without the help of paid deception experts....

This is exactly what Ellroy said over there, that it seems to be a hoax to cover the real hoax. But then again: How much can we believe him now?

Yes, they are a bunch of fortuneseekers. As Jonathan himself, his mate Greg Smith had a cheap website for D&D, which is still online:
www.geocities.com...

In the past they even sold shares of their films at ebay, to get money. Becoming a partner over there is like paying the company to be their cleaning woman, donated with a part in a bad film and a sign “actor, director, author” on the toilet door.

Back to the open questions: Is doghead – and so at least Ellroy – a freerider or is he part of the hoax? Jonathan’s reaction seems to say: Ellroy is nuts! So again there is the question, who played the role of spirals? Is there a second partner, who is nuts? I was waiting, if Sys tells you about the email-adresses, doghead gave out. They belong to two other women of that club, so Ellroy was not alone in this case.

It is already difficult to find Jonathan’s books in the real world, because the only one who sells them is Jonathan. If Ellroy is an author, than he must be using a synonym. Or wasn’t it Ellroy writing, he had written 17 novels and two nonfiction-books? On the other hand: If Jonathan thinks, Ellroy is wasting his time with nonsense, than what shall we think about Jonathan’s awarded documentary, for which Ellroy did some researches? And what do we have to think about his many postings over here?

Now we have Ellroy saying, that he is in Pasadena/California at the end of 2006, and joking that he just came from his honeymoon in Tahoe right on the first day of 2008.

This was not the only connection to California in 2007. Jonathan was looking for a cameraman in the Frisco area:

Hi,

We need a film maker / cameraperson to shoot about 10 minutes of footage on miniDV for us.

We will make you a co-producer and give an equal share of all profits from the DVD for which the footage is needed. Also full onscreen credits etc. We try and be cool and fair.

More info please email

Jonathan

with a CV

[email protected]


The job is simple and consists of shooting some locations already scouted and checked. Basically we need a life support system for a camera to take some location footage that will be added to a documentary.

It would be great to have this footage but we don't NEED the footage so we are happiest to give you the same deal we are working under on this one which is profit share when it goes on sale.

It is a guaranteed sale BTW, ties into a 2007 Hollywood project.


-J

As you can read here www.indietalk.com... Jonathan did not want to talk about the project in public. The guy, who answers him, is first interested, but than draws back – smelled fish, I guess.

Maybe these are just coincidences… Maybe they just thought, that these coincidences could be a good chance, to join the game, as our Mark Cater did, when he saw the word CARET…

But there is one coincidence, which is too much:
www.horrorchannel.com...

California Jones… That beautiful young woman, partner of Jonathan, owner of the email-address, doghead gave out as his, Carley Jones, cujus nomine “California”, designer, wrote in January 2006 into her profile “Location: Tahoe”. Okay, she could have changed her profile later…
Nobody here has noticed, that this same Location is to be read at horrorwatch, the link I gave on page 217. Here she even is more specific: “Ledge Lodge, Tahoe”. And here the location surely has NOT been changed after the drones-saga began, because her last login was 2006/7/21… www.horrorwatch.com...

And not to forget, that Alex in the wonderland, those who made the special effects for pisces-films, are also in California.

So, Carley, ever saw any drones over there at Ledge Lodge? (Reminds me to Mr. Richrutch...)

the oldest female of these may be or would have been Amber Gallagher , and one of 4 guys productions..partner.. not "old" but let us say beautifully seasoned with acting experience ..from the 80's perhaps ..but at pisces she is still involved
Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:13 pm

Post subject: Amber Gallagher to resign as producer at 4 GUYS
from the pisecesallmedia site

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Owing to pressing commitments outside the media field Amber has been forced to resign her position as Producer. This concludes a six month tenure in one of the most demanding and gruelling jobs imaginable in the profession.

Amber remains as a partner at 4 GUYS and her involvement will still be active as both an actor and voting member of the 4 GUYS partnership.

The staff and management of the theatre division thank Amber for her hard work.

Amber's main project was the Season of Shakespeare, and with her departure from role of producer that project is now on hiatus in favour of film adaptations of the plays already prepared and redacted. However, a season will still take place, beginning after the next cabaret currently in preparation.

Amber's next role is as a lead in the feature film ORDER OF THE GOLDFISH and she is also beginning preparations for a cabaret performance as soon as the current most demanding phase of her life outside the media concludes.
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So whatever happened was a setback


.As Spirals she made a point of that between young and being female and a Lady.in the newest film with Jonathan where he costars as tom swade I believe,..and she does aka "penelope ..thus..possible she is our PP

.as opposed to ELLroy Parker.. james .if you go to hubscreen and digin you will see that..but we must remember Doghead is a shell for the upper crew, like Carli also.Book of mysteries is the project which is supposed to be a composite of mysteries to be turned into a program or dvd..but hasnt..
I cant fathom the International Ellroy author involved. its .play on names I believe.But film is no different than politics..strange bed fellows it makes...but I am still digging..Perhaps an email to him is in order..I am sure his agent would be interested to look for any conflicts or usurpation of rights.

Goldie or King Goldfish P. Thomas Day could provide us some details if we can reach him on what the 2007 Hollywood Project was..as He did correspond with Jonathan...I probably wont be posting for a few days while I examine this..

One more note... on Carepillar records..Note the Misspelling of Caterpillar
Company Details In the body of Email itself Email: cateripp[email protected]


Caterpillar Records
Category/ies:
Music Publishers

Contact/s:
Dani Woods - VP

Address:
withheld, Withheld
91221 Romania
Phone No: australia: 0431405965
Email: [email protected]

Dani Woods is VP too..everyone is important and highranking at pisces ..but the email..Is Dani our PP who doghead told me he goes by also in a U2u as well as Eye of the blind!

This reminds so much of a town in SC where generations of the enitire residents all go by the same last name and run gypsy like scams..and when authorities come they cant find and arrest because they all same name. they go run scams and marry their children very very young..The mothers would say..ohh he is the son a Good Dooer as opposed to our saying a Do Gooder".who is dog head..no Im doghead..no she is doghead..no we are doghead....we certainly may have good doers here., in trying to pin them down, whether or not their is an intent to decieve, IMO ..subject to more facts or getting a straight answer from them

I think that may very well be our pp but who knows.
Does everyone know where their PP is right now..are you sure?
Update cateripple a dead end..email caterpillar is valid..










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Doghead was just posting on the Pine Gap thread. He/she got fed up apparently and washed their hands of it. We are free to u2u them questions though

Hi sputnik..
if the attitude is the same as his one of his listed friend flyingdog5000 I think it may be unlikely
www.abovetopsecret.com...
now compare the words Doghead used in his first visit here that drew my attention to the Pisces site..
www.abovetopsecret.com... sounds eerily familiar

Sidd Please save the u2u externally with the pp and other names fortunately I save externally as well..with info I sent..something peculiar happened to it here..its gone..could be a system glitch.
My apologies to all for not posting those publically but I really can't do that and still sleep..call me old fashioned...

So sidd we have time place opportunity..and motive..so far..we continue..I love Ms Marples..please bring her back..call me..old fashioned there too










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Have you looked the shape of Australia? Does it remind you of anything? Maybe a dog's head? I believe, though I'm not certain, that it is something of an Australian term, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

At any rate the Aussie group seems interesting, however I think it's just as likely that they co-opted the material for their own ideas. What better way way to drive traffic to their woefully amateurish site than to sprinkle a little bit of "fairy dust" (or maybe CARET dust) around certain forums with high traffic? I bet the investors are just laying down the $$ now.



Interesting lines of intrigue though.

Hi Mt hood..an valid point as it is indeed a water hole for surrounding life . The kind of attention ironically they are getting is not what they expected and so they locked the thread. that thread was the only thing being viewd
Why they would lock it because one investore thinx its a waste of spce while their other material is even more propsterous than caret is obvious..Sidds presentation stunned them ..simple..
I have posted a question to Dani woods i..who may be more forthright in responding to the issue of Cater pillar (Thank you Fotrtwynt that is interesting ) as well as The use of the Famous author Ellroy James Parker..If it is then I am sure he is an important investor ..who may have been out the loop on this thing..They have some serious things to discuss I am sure if it is him. I am curious as to what the 2007 hollywood movie referred to by Jonathan Nolan ..was it lionsgate or perhaps even warner brothers upcoming 2012 ..or disney..(who owns part of SCIFI or history channel)) only Jonathan and KingGoldfish aka P. Thomas Day (shades of PT Barnum jk) in SF knows for sure.
Perhaps if we just stop now. so as to not show our hand, ...then everyone can turn their attention back on LMH..who has received carte blanch on this thing by self appointed spokespersons like nemo at OMF who failed to get the real answers after he failed to ask the real questions. Yes, I would like that very much..She is our missing link..
Outrageo one of our most outstanding writers here at ATS on the caret viral thread , did an excellent post encapsulating the feelings of every reason minded person on this issue pro and con www.abovetopsecret.com...
"ALL other parties to this escapade thus far have been digital, imaginary, incognito, figmental, or theoretical - some perhaps viral, some not - but so far ONLY Linda is the actual identified human being to have gone public with first-hand exposure to the source.

It's time to come clean. If just a viral experiment and LMH was duped - or enlisted - as an unwitting participant (along with the rest of us), and she knows it or even suspects it - let's hear it. "

on that..Like Pisces..LMH hopes this blows over..and prays we all forget..we have after all,stephanville the new kid on the block..and..our attention demands thrills and spills..and flashing lights..so she hopes..so "they" hope..Someone is not listening to their prayers..

oh no no no no no
this is just staring to get good ..
I like this little red wagon.
and even the Gods are entitled to a good laugh once in a while..





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Originally posted by mthood
Have you looked the shape of Australia? Does it remind you of anything? Maybe a dog's head? I believe, though I'm not certain, that it is something of an Australian term, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi Michael,

they had a thread over there about creatures looking human, but with a doghead. Of course, I don't give them a link for this.

Talking about Australia... The funny thing is, that the main characters are in USA.
Ellroy said, he was in Pasadena, CA, Carley gave Tahoe, CA, as her location, and Dani can be found at the hottv-site (owned by pisces), saying, she is in the US, but visiting Australia twice a year.

You are right, doubting, these people could have started the CARET-hoax. I am, too. But in this case doghead indeed seems to have told us some truth...

Have you noticed, how doghead reacted on this all? Writing like someone, who wants to be in the Guinness book, he suddenly stopped and disappeared. After a big breath he came back, commenting on the Pine Gap thread: "It's pointless to even debate factoids and non-facts, and I won't. "

Even better:

Originally posted by DogHead
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As far as the guys who run Pisces All Media are concerned, they seem to think the motive is to get a whole bunch of internet nerds sued for defamation and the sites their stuff is posted on shut down.

More on that from them I would imagine, sooner rather than later.

Obviously he was a little stumped, what ended up with some editing by the mod and a warning to him.

Yes its a who can outstump who Sidd..I checked the cateripple and its invalid..I did an Intelius check on [email protected] and came up with this ..a Disiree Hines in Goosecreek South Carolina , my home state ans about 45 minutes away..EMAIL REPORT FOR [email protected]

WHAT IS A REVERSE EMAIL LOOKUP?
This section lists current and historical records that share the same email address. The Email Address Report can be helpful in providing a consolidated view of matching records for your subject’s email address across multiple public and publicly available sources. The name, address and phone number data may provide useful information to help you locate an individual.

RECORD 1 of 3
Name: HINES DESIREE
Background Report

GOOSE CREEK, SC 29445

Address:
Property Report


RECORD 2 of 3
Name: DESIREE HINES
Background Report

Address:
GOOSE CREEK, SC 29445
Property Report


RECORD 3 of 3
Name: DESIREE HINES
Background Report

Address:

GOOSE CREEK, SC
Property Report

doing a google I then found a T. Desiree Hines..a famous Black Gospel and Renassaince organist..

this is certainly a little far from Au Romania and CA..

Praise the Lord..

what are we to make of this..for what is supposed to be an honest email address ..or should have been..for caterpillar records..

any allusions to defamation by Doghead are preposterous..we are only posting and verifying what they give us..it speaks for itself and all else is opinion..based on the facts or factoids as he/she calls it.

when Doghead mentioned that Spirals had spoken with a Liza Reye of a local current affairs program to see if it would make a story and that it was declined..thats ok..but to not post anything saying what happened is not a good thing thing for her either. I am sure c2c and LMH and a bunch of people would have been interested for an exclusive..
I hope KTK can verify whether Liza Reye even exists I cant find her.



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Location, location, location ??????


From memory the head indicated they were living in Western Australia, but were in Darwin or going to be in Darwin,which in the Northern Territory. Because we cant go back and look at posts I cant confirm this, ill sift through what I can find.


I have seen similar stunts pulled on ATS and the PTB and mods are very quick to eradicate an eleaborate hoax and phi$hing. The head has made enough claims with no evidence to warrant the usual punishment here, let alone the phi$hing.

The first thing that usually occurs is an ip trace to see if the stated and actual location match, this usually undoes the perp first up.

Im hoping that a mod could trace the ip on all posts of this group and post the findings. I have a feeling none are originating from my neck of the woods.

Originally posted by KTK
Location, location, location ??????


From memory the head indicated they were living in Western Australia, but were in Darwin or going to be in Darwin,which in the Northern Territory. Because we cant go back and look at posts I cant confirm this, ill sift through what I can find.


I have seen similar stunts pulled on ATS and the PTB and mods are very quick to eradicate an eleaborate hoax and phi$hing. The head has made enough claims with no evidence to warrant the usual punishment here, let alone the phi$hing.

The first thing that usually occurs is an ip trace to see if the stated and actual location match, this usually undoes the perp first up.

Im hoping that a mod could trace the ip on all posts of this group and post the findings. I have a feeling none are originating from my neck of the woods.

Hi KTK I am glad you read that..I dont really want anyone going there personally to talk to any of them but you are correct it may not be originating from your neck of the woods at all. It may just be a vacation spot for them..ie smoke and mirrors..
have you ever heard of a Liza Reye on TV news..nice catchy name
I am laffing at the pisces fish old xian symbol, Isaac bible connection, and now the pipe organ music to boot with Desiree

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I have never heard of that name in any popular media here, not that that means anything but it does stand out. This may sound strange but if it was a real name it would be more likely to be of American origin. It just dosnt ring as an Australian name, its hard to explain but other ozfolk will know what I mean.


Ill go off and dothe usual local checks


edit to add we only have 2 current affairs shows, it shouldnt be hard to rule out

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