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Originally posted by Mrknighttime32
You cannot understand anything if you do not try to listen
What about speaking in tongues? - no evidence to suggest that it is a divinely controlled experience other than the subjectivity of the particpants, also whats the point of it?, what does speaking in tongues actually achieve?
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
Originally posted by shihulud
The flaw in that you cannot use a subjective experience as proof of a god never mind proof that its your deity of choice.
You want me to use a subjective experience as proof for God? What about speaking in tongues?
Again no evidence to implicate a divinely controlled experience other than subjectivity.
What about medical miracles?
Hallucinations or something similar.
What about visions?
No evidence of most of these so called disciples existed, plus even according to the bible the didn't all die horrible deaths.
What about the fact that the disciples of Jesus Christ all suffered horrendous tortures and deaths (being skinned alive, dragged to death, beheaded, crucified upside down, intestines pulled out with a chain, etc.) but never once denied the story of Jesus Christ or admitted to making it up even when given the chance to?
No it doesn't. that is your assumption.
These are all very powerful, subjective experiences that people have had which proves without a reasonable doubt that God is real.
What I meant was how could you determine whether the deity was jehovah or allah or mengi chief elder of the beer elves, other than your predetermination of religion.
Proof that it is my deity of choice? I don't quite understand, did you mean "Proof that it should be the deity of choice"? Because I can give you a boatload of reasons why.