Chavez Tells Venezuelan Soldiers to Prepare for War With U.S.

Chavez Tells Venezuelan Soldiers to Prepare for War With U.S.

www.foxnews.com

President Hugo Chavez urged soldiers on Sunday to prepare for a guerrilla-style war against the United States, saying that Washington is using psychological and economic warfare as part of an unconventional campaign aimed at derailing his government.

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I could be wrong but I think this may well be a ploy to take the attention off his recent activities that have riled up his citizens against him. He like Castro and the President of Iran are all far to paranoid.

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Chavez has been preparing for a number of years now. If you read the PNAC document, our official foreign policy plan, you will see where it says that we will invade any country without provocation by them, if w deem it necessary for U.S. interests or some such wording. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be concerned that the U.S. might invade Venezuela, (as it has done with Iraq and now Iran) for its oil.

Originally posted by forestlady
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be concerned that the U.S. might invade Venezuela, (as it has done with Iraq and now Iran) for its oil.

I must have missed those bulletins and news flashes.

Just when did we invade Iran other then way back during Carters administration tried to rescue the hostages that is. I do not think even that really would qualify as an invasion.

Shots, we're already in there. It's not a conventional war YET, but they are planning on fighting it in a different way.

"Covert Intelligence Operations: Stirring Ethnic Tensions in Iran"
"Meanwhile, for the last two years, Washington has been involved in covert intelligence operations inside Iran. American and British intelligence and special forces (working with their Israeli counterparts) are involved in this operation.

"A British intelligence official said that any campaign against Iran would not be a ground war like the one in Iraq. The Americans will use different tactics, said the intelligence officer. 'It is getting quite scary.'" (Evening Standard, 17 June 2003".

www.globalresearch.ca... )

You can bet the CIA isn't sitting around sucking on lollipops. They're doing cover CIA ops, read stirring things up, at the very least.




[edit on 25/6/07 by forestlady]

Hmmm...

I believe he is all talk..

But in the case that hes not, and attacks American institutions overseas in South America.. it would spark a way alright..

The problem lies in that much of South America would join them and attack our troops as well.. not to mention it would be jungle warfare..



War with them would encourage Iran to be more involved with Iraq as well....



By the way.. forestlady.. you seem to have a lot of insight of American intelligence huh?

Originally posted by forestlady
Shots, we're already in there. It's not a conventional war YET, but they are planning on fighting it in a different way.

That is not what you said; technically, you said we had invaded them which we have not.

Sure we are there spying, we also or I should say probably have undercover operatives in every country in the world but those are not invasions. Every government has spies and everyone knows that, yet those are not considered fighting which takes place during invasions.

And kindly explain why you are rambling on about Iran and Iraq when the thread is supposed to be about Chavez telling his soldiers to prepare for war.

Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by forestlady
Shots, we're already in there. It's not a conventional war YET, but they are planning on fighting it in a different way.

That is not what you said; technically, you said we had invaded them which we have not.

Sure we are there spying, we also or I should say probably have undercover operatives in every country in the world but those are not invasions. Every government has spies and everyone knows that, yet those are not considered fighting which takes place during invasions.

And kindly explain why you are rambling on about Iran and Iraq when the thread is supposed to be about Chavez telling his soldiers to prepare for war.

Shots, we are in Iran fomenting a civil war, and we have every intention
of invading Iran soon. It's a matter of semantics, you say to-mah-to, I say to-may-to.
As for my references to Iran and Iraq, I mention that because if the U.S. would invade there (as well as Afghanistan) why wouldn't they invade Venezuela? We have also stated our intention to invadae anyone we "feel is a threat". That covers alot of territory. If you had read and understood PNAC, our official foreign policy paper, you would have understood the reference.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
By the way.. forestlady.. you seem to have a lot of insight of American intelligence huh?

Rockpuck, are you being sarcastic or serious? It's hard to tell on the internet. Thanks.

Originally posted by forestlady
If you had read and understood PNAC, our official foreign policy paper, you would have understood the reference.

OK I am willing to look at it and see what it has to say but I cannot find a link to an official government site that has its OFFICAL text do you have a link? I can find tons of BS tih 911 theories but I want the official verions only.

Dear Shots: You asked a perfectly valid question, in fact a very good one. So I went to Google. I could not find ONE govt source for this. But it has been on a govt website before and here's the history:

Right after 911 in 2001, I got on the internet every night when I got home from work, trying to find information about 9/11. I came across the PNAC document and it was on a govt website, as well as having its very own website. Yet when I just went to find it (6 years later) it wasn't there on ANY govt website. This is the second this type of thing has happened. I know you have only my word to go on, but believe me, Shots, I read it right after 9/11 and it was on a govt website. I remember it very well, because I couldn't believe that would be our new forgeign policy. It was all right there on www.pnac.com and on a govt site, as well.
Sorry I can't provide better proof but I will keep looking.


[edit on 25/6/07 by forestlady]

Hugo Chavez is mentally ill.

Possibly:

Paranoid Schizophrenia

Paranoid Personality Disorder

Although this isn't a clinical diagnosis, I think it fits Chavez pretty well.

Serial Bully

Clinical diagnoses associated with Serial Bullies:

Paranoid Personality Disorder and the Serial Bully

Narcissistic Personality Disorder and the Serial Bully

Antisocial Personality Disorder and the Serial Bully

[edit on 2007/6/25 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Possibly:

Paranoid Personality Disorder

Each and everyoe of the symptoms given fit him to a T. No doubt about it he also suffers from Querulant delusions big time

[edit on 6/25/2007 by shots]

I was about post this in the other thread that was closed, so I'll post it here.


Well I'm not particularly sure if we do intend to go to war with Venezuela in any manner,
but I really don't blame President Chávez though, you have psychos like Pat Robertson who
have a relatively large audience saying things like we ought to assassinate him, we have an
administration who is basically completely opposed to everything Venezuela does
and a geopolitical situation that is a bit unsteady, plus he has ties with Iran PRChina
(a mistake IMO), which even though I don't think he particularly likes either one very much,
but has done so more out of defiance towards this administration and partially out of necessity.

Originally posted by shots

Chavez Tells Venezuelan Soldiers to Prepare for War With U.S.

www.foxnews.com

President Hugo Chavez urged soldiers on Sunday to prepare for a guerrilla-style war against the United States, saying that Washington is using psychological and economic warfare as part of an unconventional campaign aimed at derailing his government.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Ok, so are you just now figuring out the Bush administration has targeted the administration of Hugo Chavez?:shk:

This is old news, man.

If Hugo said that to his soldiers, so what?

BushCo. did their intel best to overthrow Hugo. But they failed.

Of course he's paranoid. He has good reason to be.

Originally posted by forestlady
Right after 911 in 2001, I got on the internet every night when I got home from work, trying to find information about 9/11. I came across the PNAC document and it was on a govt website, as well as having its very own website. Yet when I just went to find it (6 years later) it wasn't there on ANY govt website.

Here it is:
www.newamericancentury.org...

It was never a government website, by the way. Its a thinktank frankenstein.

People in the government as well as the media tried to link the recent 'terrorist' plot at JFK airport to Venezuela. The CIA also attempted a coup on Chavez back in 2002. Add all of this on top of preemptive war doctrine and he would have to be insane to not be a bit paranoid.

The whole thing with Venezuela is bizarre. Its a cold hot war. A dirty littel war that we really don't discuss. It goes on (coup attempst) and covert funded actions; but officially, it doesn't exist.

Until we start talking about it honestly. The US govt wants to overthrow Chavez. Don't believe the crap you hear about Chavez in the MSM. Its crap. Chavez is a guy who is doing the best he can for his country. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Chavez is a guy who is doing the best he can for his country. Plain and simple.

ECK, you and Councilman Charles Barron are best buddies too, probably drinking at the same socialist waterhole, I would imagine.

Your reference to "honestly" is hilarious, especially when you spew that Chavez is a guy doing the best he can....*cough* for his country.
The "plain and simple" truth is that Chavez is a dictator who simply and plainly only gives a crap about himself. He controls the media in Venezuala: FACT. He controls the phone companies: FACT. He pretty much controls every aspect of Venezualian life: FACT. And before you go off the left-end and start spewing that he was 'democratically elected' let me reminds you that Saddam, Assad, and host of other dictators were allegedly democratically elected.

Chavez is a bully waiting for a bloody nose. He best better prepare very, very well for any type conflict with the US. I would hate to see his dictatorship cease to exist or get hung......

[edit on 26-6-2007 by Seekerof]

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Chavez is a guy who is doing the best he can for his country. Plain and simple.

You really crack me up. Actually, you, well, never mind.

Let's look outside the mainstream media:

Chavez gross cadenas where he insults people who cannot reply are easily matched by his display of military force, confirming, astoundingly today, that Venezuela is for all practical purpose a military dictatorship, where the army is there to serve the power in place, not the people, not the nation, but the military leader. It is there, visually for all to see, with that astounding image of CNN where dozens of motorbikes in close formation, rode by armed Nazional Guards, followed by tanks, were rolling through the congested highways of Caracas.

But that is Chavez, the pure product of military low life, of cheap barracks and cheap ideas. A mere "teniente coronel" who did not benefit from the polishing graces of reaching command positions, assuming he could have benefited from that. He is just the latest avatar of the South American XIX century bully, who measures his manliness as to how many soldiers he can place in front of the other guy.

daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com

Got up this morning with the breaking news about yet another major drug bust in Las Azores: 4.5 tonnes of coc aine were found onboard vessel Oceania, headed for Spain. Port of origin? You´ve guessed it, Venezuela, where the Chavez-FARC connection has resulted in the turning of the entire territory –nearly 1 million square kilometres- in the world’s biggest launching pad for Colombia’s drug produce.

www.vcrisis.com...

Of course, then there's the much publicized seizure of the television station that dared to criticize Chavez and the police response to the resultant protests.

Hugo Chavez: He's quite a guy.