DoD creates computerised alternate reality - SWS

This sounds uncannily like the birth of DARPA's Digital Angel/Global Information Grid AI project that was highlighted in the video They Want Your Soul

if theyre data-mining to see what our surfing habits are and what we look at, they have a whole mountain load of porn to sift through because thats what dominated the internet as a whole.

Originally posted by radioactive_liquid
if theyre data-mining to see what our surfing habits are and what we look at, they have a whole mountain load of porn to sift through because thats what dominated the internet as a whole.

Exactly!

My work here is done...

I'm curious if they've programmed this machine to take into consideration the fact that it has been built and that human decisions may be based on it...

This is just great...

I can see the bush administration using this as "proof" that something is going to happen unless they "do something about it"

Originally posted by Mechanic 32
Welcome to the real life Matrix???

Yeah, totally cool.
I am quite impressed with technology and the potential that is there.

Typically there seems to be a lot of worry and fear around technical advancements, especially fear of the unknown...but if we embrace advancement and keep open to new ideas, then society as a whole can advance together without any 'side-effects' that come with the typical reluctance from people to try something new.

Things can be used for any intent...cant supress everything or we will never grow.

Peace

Dalen

Originally posted by gopher minesI can see the bush administration using this as "proof" that something is going to happen unless they "do something about it"

Maybe the above quote goes to further the point in my above post.

Sure its easy to think of negative effects to anything - but what are some positive potential with the technology itself.

The fact of the matter is, when you really get down to it - Bush can use anything as proof...it really doesnt matter...the whole Tom Cruise thing where they fortold crimes, etc.
The point, is if someone wants to say something - it really doesnt matter if its accurate or not.

But what do we focus on? This is more important... we tend to draw that which we focus on.

Peace

dAlen

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Obviously, this technology has the military application people are talking about, but this could be used for other, useful things, as well. Imagine being able to predict which areas might get hit hardest by a drought, tsunami or tornado, or other weather phenomena, for instance. FEMA could figure out where the critical areas are and build or move their bases there, for better response times in emergency situations.

I'm sure there are other disaster scenarios that could be predicted with this, and plans of action devised. It really depends what the software is designed to do and how accurate it is.

Leave it to DARPA to create the most awesome things! I think this is a great idea... for a video game. But for practical use it seems unreasonable to rely on a computer program to map out the effects of things like invading a country. The program would be great for predicting how humans would act in the perfectly controlled environment of a computer program. However, people scarcely act predictable in real life.

For example, it would not have been able to tell us that thousands of terrorists were going to flood into Iraq from surrounding countries once we invaded it. Even with such a program we would still would not have had any idea that such an event would occur. It's a scary thought that the U.S. could potentially use this program to try to predict exact outcomes of similar situations and treat whatever the program came out with as the likely scenario.

I bet they plug the data stream from the department of Total Information Awareness (it didn't die, it was just renamed) into this simulation. As with all technology, it can be used for good or evil. Let's hope whoever is driving DoD has our best intentions at heart.

LT

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I actually like the idea of this, wish I had one.... and wish they didn't. Reminds me a bit of the Babbage machines in "In the Country of the Blind."

Maybe I ought to ask them for a job - I've enjoyed playing "The Sims" before. Think they'll come out with a Mac version?

Maybe when they get finished putzing around with it and figuring out who to invade next, they can use it for something useful.... like, maybe the economy?




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It was only a matter of time before a full-world simulation was developed to simulate geo-political dynamics. This looks like a fun toy. If only it were retail...

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Maybe the above quote goes to further the point in my above post.

Sure its easy to think of negative effects to anything - but what are some positive potential with the technology itself.

The fact of the matter is, when you really get down to it - Bush can use anything as proof...it really doesnt matter...the whole Tom Cruise thing where they fortold crimes, etc.
The point, is if someone wants to say something - it really doesnt matter if its accurate or not.

But what do we focus on? This is more important... we tend to draw that which we focus on.

It's much like atomic energy. Sure, you can harvest that incredible power to turn turbines at powerplants...or you could build bombs that can decimate all life on this plannet.

It's kind of hard to see the good of this technology when the the very real threat of death or slavery comes hand in hand with the new tech.

I think it has to do with human nature. It's not like the negative aspects/possibilities of the tech. are just somethign to take not of, but not worry about becasue humanity will never use the tech. for those purposes. Time has proven mankind's nature (at least to me) is corrupt and there is the very real threat of these things being misused and abused.

I don't really trust my fellow man. I kind of wish we'd hurry up and blow ourselves up and get it over with, before everyone o nthe plannet is branded and enslaved and controlled.

I focus on this, becasue I see it happening. With all I have seen of humanity, the technology WILL be abused. That is not the question. The question is: how BADLY will it be abused/misused?

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I saw something on TV about something silimar in the 90s, I believe. Investors invented a system of "dynamic hedging" to eliminate "risk" from stocks and investments; they thought they could do what the programmers think this program can do.

But some sort of crisis in China occured, a famine I believe, and it totally changed the market and all of those men's fortunes vanished.

It's going to be the same with this. It may be more accurate than the formulas and what not of almost 20 years ago, but you cannot predict humanity or life.

The Matrix illustrates this point well. There will always be anamolies and "supernatural"/unexplainable events that happen.

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All due respect to UID 1. I see your location is England. Can I please ask for your comments and opinions of my thread. I am trying to get to the root of an issue concerning this topic. I will reserve my knowledge of this thread thru a secure means. Do you have any suggestion on how to accomplish this task. Mums the word.

God Save the Queen.

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Is history not written by the winners?

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Man, these guys ar scary....they are working on multiple projects, check it out.

Simulex

Really awesome. The obvious question is, whats to say WE aren't part of a similar program?

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What if A) It already exists, as generally, no new technology is really new, it's just worded so as to pitch it for profitable commercial applications as though it were new; and B) What if it is actually connected to supercomputers and databases to compile a complete and total real time assessment of every single individual they can track and monitor, living and dead, and is used to physically, chemically, mechanically, electrically, etc. manipulate or control, actively or passively, every individual/ entity within the scope of their system. A certifiable automaton System.

Reminds me of the saying there is a server in the sky to control your minds. could that be true

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Beginning of a kind of matrix? This would be good for a global interaction program. Meaning that you could jack yourself in(Like they do in Ghost in the Shell) and commune in real time with people all over the world. Corporations would not need to fly to Dubai anymore in order to have a board meeting...But I guess you'd have to find a way to develop the human interface that would make this all possible. And we're taking steps toward that in the Medical field with very basic cybernetics that attach to the optic nerve to allow a blind person to see for instance. Or that new dream reading software or that psychic billboard they put together for A&E's Ghost Stories in New York City.

Put this all together and you have some powerful technology.

I can also see the potential privacy consequences and other matter which would have to be addressed. But with progress comes new responsibilities.

Now, 4 years later, we have hundreds of social media sites, body scanners, iris/fingerprint readers, nanochips, RFIDs, and web trackers to mine data on the intricacies of the human race. Seems like it's coming full circle and for freeeeeeee!!!