The Kendron Eden Project

Dr. Kenneth Kozeka of Kendron Corp is said to have discovered a "new" way to harness the magnetism of permanent magnets to produce usable mechanical energy. ( A permanent magnet motor.)

www.kedroncorp.com...

Fairview, Tennessee, June 13, 2007 – Our dire need for a new source of inexpensive, pollution-
free energy to free us from our dependency on foreign oil may have been met by a scientist in
Tennessee. A new extremely inexpensive, pollution-free source of electricity has been discovered
and is now being considered by major international corporations. This new technology produces
electricity without chemical reactions, combustion or pollution. Mechanical energy generated by
the powerful magnetic forces of neodymium magnets (manufactured by Hitachi Corporation) turns
electric generators producing electricity. A volume of neodymium magnets less than the size of a
car battery can generate (for decades) more than enough electricity to supply an average
household and an amount equivalent to thousands of gallons of gasoline a year.
This source of pollution-free energy can do more than provide inexpensive electricity. It can be
used to affordably generate other forms of energy such as hydrogen and to produce pure water
from ocean water for drinking and farming.

Apparently the fundamentals behind the discovery is the phenomenon of magnets "pulling" stronger along a horizontal axis to that of the poles than the energy required to pull the magnets apart along the parallel axis of the magnets poles.

www.kedroncorp.com...

Pulling two magnets apart along the same path
they took to pull themselves together will of course require as much (or more) energy as the
amount generated by the magnets when they come together. However, it has been discovered
recently that two permanent magnets of a particular shape can be pulled apart along a prescribed
path that requires less work compared to the amount of work produced when the magnets come
together along a different path. This is possible because permanent magnets have at least one
North and one South Pole which gives polarity to their magnetic fields making the fields and the
force in the field unevenly distributed. In an uneven field of magnetic force, it is not difficult to
imagine different paths having different forces and thereby generating different amounts of work.

The paths that must be followed came as a surprise and were not intuitive. For example, it has
been discovered that two cube-shaped neodymium magnets (measuring .75”, 43 pound pull-force,
Grade N38, 1.8 ounces) are capable of generating 7.46 inch-pounds (work) when they pull
themselves together “sideways” in the horizontal plane. It takes only 6.56 inch-pounds to pull the
magnets apart along a vertical path that is perpendicular to the path they followed when they
came together. This leaves a .90 inch-pound net-yield of mechanical energy (work) which can be
used for example to turn an electric generator

I experimented with varying the axis of magnetic poles a couple of years ago. However in my test I noted the overall torque to pull the magnets together off axis to that of the poles was less than when pulling away along axis to the poles. (Directly opposite to the findings of Dr. Kozeka.) In my test while the torque off axis was less than on axis it also was applied over a long distance therefore no useable net gain in work was accomplished along either axis. I was however using 2 long cylinder neodymium magnets rather than cube magnets and conducted the test with less "air-gap" between them.

Dr. Kozeka states that he performed each experment 14 times and that his calculations have been verified by mathematics and physics professors.

The premise and method (described in the abstract below and in the attached report)
for harvesting mechanical energy is, although unintuitive, very simple and straightforward:
magnets are capable of doing more work in one direction (or plane) than another, and the net
difference can be used to turn a generator or perform other tasks. I have no doubt that a net-
yield of mechanical energy is available as described. Only the size of the yield remains in
question and is a matter of the accuracy of my measurements. However, it is not that difficult to
measure force over distance. Verification of my measurements can be done very easily and
inexpensively. I have confirmed my calculations (both simple geometry and integral) with
mathematics and physics professors.

As far as I can tell it is yet to be seen how long the magnets will "last" while being used in such a way. In which case if Dr.Kozeka's findings are correct will decide if this could be a practical source for cheap abundant energy.

While being skeptical I cant help but notice that all of the necessary information to replicate the basic tests are present in the Complete Research Report which is one thing that is more often than not lacking in "free energy" claims.

I would like to see more detailed measurements of the torque during motion. Never the less it is interesting.

For anyone else interested Sterling D. Allan will be conducting an Internet radio interview with Dr. Kozeka on Saturday 3:00 pm (Pacific Time) channel one on BBS Radio

So what do you think a groundbreaking alternative energy source , honest mistaken calculations or false statements to gain attention???

Forget about it, these alernative power sources will never make it to the surface, like all the other thousands in the past.
There is just too much at stake for the worlds elite.

Wow, I am so saddened by that last statement. Are you really THAT helpless?!

These so called world elites cannot stand up to a good idea that makes sense. Just the appropriate marketing needs to take place.

If you know how to get the word to the people, you will achieve things far greater than you can imagine.

Haha, we've been using the same combustion engines for 100 years. Surely cleaner methods of gaining energy have been discovered in that time. And surely the monopolistic corporations have made sure that we continue using oil. They intend to milk us of every penny we've got.

There is no question that they will try and milk us for everything that we've got but that mentality is fundamentally flawed.

YOU ARE NOT HELPLESS!

Stop thinking that the man, the corporate or government elite are going to keep you down and make your idea change the world, even if it means your own death!

Until you are the one to create change you will not allow change. Nuff said.

Turning a rotor by magnets has already been done.

www.youtube.com...

This is not the answer to the energy problem in my opinion. Steven Marks torriodal power unit is all we need to power everything, from the zero point energy field. Until the suppression on free energy ends, we will never see such devices in the public realm.

Originally posted by Freezer
Turning a rotor by magnets has already been done.

www.youtube.com...

This is not the answer to the energy problem in my opinion. Steven Marks torriodal power unit is all we need to power everything, from the zero point energy field. Until the suppression on free energy ends, we will never see such devices in the public realm.

I dont believe that. They havent created a free energy source yet thats the problem. That video was edited I can see the glitch. Show me one with no hidden wires.

Now I haven't done anything except read this thread, but the idea seems simple enough. And it will be tested, many times, I'm sure.

I think the key, the way that will bypass the oil companies, is simplicity. When a method is found that is simple enough for a farmer in Africa or a hillbilly mechenic in the Ozarks to build, they will.

The real test is an item/idea that the poor can grasp, that they can modify in their basement, of put on a lawnmower, or power a water pump with. The big boys won't give away technology, and if it's too hard to cobble together, the needy won't be able too.

If/when we get a revolution in energy, it will be like the early days of the automobile or the airplane, it will be something that can be accomplished by the backyard tinkerer.

And when that happens, the big oil companies won't stand a chance of stopping it. Oh, they'll try to get safety laws passed that make it a hazard,or something, but once it's out there, and people can save big money, so many people will be doing it that enforcement would totally fail.

I see that as the only way we'll break the grip of the fat cats.

Originally posted by NGC2736
Now I haven't done anything except read this thread, but the idea seems simple enough. And it will be tested, many times, I'm sure.

I think the key, the way that will bypass the oil companies, is simplicity. When a method is found that is simple enough for a farmer in Africa or a hillbilly mechenic in the Ozarks to build, they will.

The real test is an item/idea that the poor can grasp, that they can modify in their basement, of put on a lawnmower, or power a water pump with. The big boys won't give away technology, and if it's too hard to cobble together, the needy won't be able too.

If/when we get a revolution in energy, it will be like the early days of the automobile or the airplane, it will be something that can be accomplished by the backyard tinkerer.

And when that happens, the big oil companies won't stand a chance of stopping it. Oh, they'll try to get safety laws passed that make it a hazard,or something, but once it's out there, and people can save big money, so many people will be doing it that enforcement would totally fail.

I see that as the only way we'll break the grip of the fat cats.

And I cant wait.
That will be the day when all the money in the world starts exchanging hands.

Just sounds like so much of the "free energy" horse hockey I've heard over the years...

Something simple? Overunity isn't possible? I present Mr. Milkovic

12x times more in than out.

www.veljkomilkovic.com...

Have a look at this.

video.google.de...

- Connect this to a generator, then power the pedulum with the generator and there you go, an overunity device everyone here could build with $50.

I still Steven Marks device is all we need for huge power output contained in a small package which has no moving parts. Its the best overunity device I've seen. It seems like it could last as long as the parts maintain, which could be hundred of years.

Originally posted by Freezer
Something simple? Overunity isn't possible? I present Mr. Milkovic

12x times more in than out.

www.veljkomilkovic.com...

Have a look at this.

video.google.de...

- Connect this to a generator, then power the pedulum with the generator and there you go, an overunity device everyone here could build with $50.

I still Steven Marks device is all we need for huge power output contained in a small package which has no moving parts. Its the best overunity device I've seen. It seems like it could last as long as the parts maintain, which could be hundred of years.

LOL thats so funny.
Let me ask you a simple question, if it puts out more energy than is put in then why didnt they build a pully to do the work that goofy guy was having to do?(pull on the string)
Thats very funny, thanks.

keep trying, or better yet try making a free energy device and rule the world muhaha

He is going to do this. He actually just got finished building that. Even the admin of the ou site suggested a good idea by using a electro magnet to pulse the pendulum back and forth which would take less energy. I think this is a very simply to make device which could yield a usable amount of energy given how good the generator is.

Originally posted by Freezer
He is going to do this. He actually just got finished building that. Even the admin of the ou site suggested a good idea by using a electro magnet to pulse the pendulum back and forth which would take less energy. I think this is a very simply to make device which could yield a usable amount of energy given how good the generator is.

I do believe its going to happen, may not be this guy but someone will make it happen. And what a glorious day that will be.
I wish I could figure it out, then I would be bigger than Bill Gates.

This is not the answer to the energy problem in my opinion.

I see any working energy device that provided affordable abundant and "clean" energy as the solution to the energy problem. The more real working devices the better!!!!

While I believe the biggest stumbling block to alternative energy at this point is the massive amount of fraud and perpetuation of erroneous claims and theories. Lets say for the moment that there have been thousands of "free energy" devices invented and suppressed. Lets also say for the moment that Dr. Kozeka's measurements and claims are valid. Wouldn't it be better to have a cheap safe abundant energy source to "end the suppression" rather than continue along the path of being angry about suppression yet having no effective solution to the problem. A tool to break free of our current energy system in order to allow the distribution of the more effective energy systems?

I think the key, the way that will bypass the oil companies, is simplicity. When a method is found that is simple enough for a farmer in Africa or a hillbilly mechenic in the Ozarks to build, they will.

The real test is an item/idea that the poor can grasp, that they can modify in their basement, of put on a lawnmower, or power a water pump with. The big boys won't give away technology, and if it's too hard to cobble together, the needy won't be able too.

That is exactly my view on the matter as well. Something that any hobbyist can build in their garage without being a "rocket scientist" or having multi million dollar funding.

If we assume that Dr.Kozeka's findings are correct. With the Internet making global communication of this type of detailed and simple information so common I see no way that such a device could be suppressed outside the mass control of the manufacturing and distribution of permanent magnets.

Just sounds like so much of the "free energy" horse hockey I've heard over the years...

I am also very skeptical. The one thing that made this particular project stand out to me is the detailed explanations on how the test was conducted and how to replicate the test. With detailed instructions on how the measuring device was constructed and all of the materials used in it along with pictures. (All present in the Complete Research Report .)

As soon as my magnets arrive I will attempt to replicate and verify or disprove Dr.Kozeka's simple measurement tests like those described in his Complete research report and will post the results here. I intend to use multiple scales for the testing as I see that it could be possible that Dr. Kozeka conducted the tests with a faulty scale. Ill only be convinced one way or the other when I see real measurements conducted by myself or many others or of course if we see Dr.Kozeka's motors available on the market.

Even if the overall stationary torque is greater along the horizontal axis to that of the poles I am curious about the torque during motion. Do permanent magnets induce counter forces that reduce or increase their magnetic reaction with each other depending on how they are moved in relation to each other similar to the Counter EMF when using Electro Magnets? Perhaps some of you physics specialist can help me out here???

Something simple? Over unity isn't possible? I present Mr. Milkovic

12x times more in than out.

www.veljkomilkovic.com...

Have a look at this.

video.google.de...

Using one generator flashlight in your hand to push a pendulum over a long distance while the lever pushes the other 12 flashlight generators is by no means a solid measurement of energy. (this is how the assumption was made that 12 times the energy was produced) The same effect can be accomplished with a lever. You have to remember that mechanical energy isn't just torque. If it was we would all just be using levers to build free energy devices.

- Connect this to a generator, then power the pedulum with the generator and there you go, an overunity device everyone here could build with $50.

If you really believe that this is a "free energy" device then why not do the world a big favor and spend 50$ and build one carefully documenting your progress along the way with video and pictures posting them right here on ATS where the information can verified and spread????

still Steven Marks device is all we need for huge power output contained in a small package which has no moving parts. Its the best over unity device I've seen. It seems like it could last as long as the parts maintain, which could be hundred of years.

You speak as tho you know for a FACT that Steven Mark's "free energy" device provides abundant free energy. So I ask you why?

You can of course ask me why I don't believe it and I will tell you. People are not always honest and measurements are not always accurate. Therefor I will not believe it blindly without witnessing directly or indirectly some form of proof that can be duplicated by anyone with the means to do so.

Far to many people believe in "free energy" with the same fanaticism as any religion known to man. Requiring no proof or evidence solely relying on their "faith" in free energy and point to suppression as the reason that the world isn't powered by free energy devices. Rather than actually putting in a small bit of effort to verify or prove the claims many times that amount of effort is poured into complaining about "suppression"

Belief in "free energy" will do nothing to bring about abundant clean energy sources without simultaneous action taken to duplicate and spread factual knowledge that can be proven in the real world environment.

Originally posted by Heckman

You can of course ask me why I don't believe it and I will tell you. People are not always honest and measurements are not always accurate. Therefor I will not believe it blindly without witnessing directly or indirectly some form of proof that can be duplicated by anyone with the means to do so.

Free energy is a loose term, and what I meant is that you should see a gain due to the gravity working for you with the pendulum. Thats the point, not the lever. The lever just amplifies the effect. I don't really believe energy comes from nothing even if its being pulled out of the "aether," its still coming from somewhere. And yes I actually was thinking about making one, as I don't have the parts in my garage atm. I like to think about it first and try and see the best parts and materials which could be used. For instance I'm sure theres a more efficient way to connect the arm to a generator.

I really don't care if you believe or disbelieve the steven mark device. I however believe every part of its "said" capability. Have you even looked at the replication progress so far on the site? I'm sure someone would go through all that trouble of hoaxing those videos from the 1980's then release them 20 years later, creating fake patents, cordinating it with forum members in contact with him to agree with false data, create their own false replications and spread false data within the forum. In my opinion this isn't likely. More likely it does exactly what he claims it does, which is why people have made the progress they've have made thus far on their replications. Its good to be skeptical, but not to the point that you don't even give it a chance or look simply because a hundred other people haven't replicated it. I'm glad people over at that forum have invested their time in decoding this device, and it was sought out just on faith that it could be real. You suggest im guilty of believing in just any old device which claims free energy, but on the other side you deny something you haven't taken the time to understand. Look through the 100's of pages on that forum dedicated SM threads and tell me its all bs. If you can find the compliation of Steven Marks emails to a forum member, you will understand it a whole lot better, as he gives his insight and concepts of the device. Thats what really convinced me that his device works and is real. Read his words and you will understand that this guy is pretty dam insightful and brilliant.


[edit on 27-6-2007 by Freezer]

Originally posted by Freezer
Turning a rotor by magnets has already been done.

www.youtube.com...

This is not the answer to the energy problem in my opinion. Steven Marks torriodal power unit is all we need to power everything, from the zero point energy field. Until the suppression on free energy ends, we will never see such devices in the public realm.

Thats a cool video and device. I hope to build something like this soon using the magnets out of old hard drives we throw out at work! If you havent seen the magnets in those things they are pretty powerfull I am not sure they are the rare earth type or not but they are essentially free as lots of places throw them away!

Direct link to the report (ppt) -
www.kedroncorp.com...

It turns out that they actually have nothing, its all papers.
From freeenergytracker.blogspot.com...,

vLan said...

I actually emailed them from their website and got a reply today. My email was like this:

Dear Dr Kozeka,

I'm very excited about your new generator and I want to congratulate you for successfully commercializing it.

I've gone through your ppt and I have a question. What is the amount of work needed to bring the moving magnet back to its original position, so that the cycle can be started again?

Is it less than the 'yield'? If so, have you done any measurements? What methods are you using for continuous yields? If there is any patents kindly provide a link.

I'm eager to place an order for a sample/demo unit. Thank you.

The reply:

Thank you for your interest in the Eden Project.

Please click on this link
www.kedroncorp.com... to download
the full research report.

My discovery concerns a source of new energy. There is no machine. The magnets will however drive a machine that will include an electric generator.

The report which you can obtain from the link above explains that the amount of energy required to separate the magnets is less than the amount generated when the come together (along a different path). Once they have been pulled apart, the amount of energy (work) required to move the magnets back to their starting position is very small provided friction is kept at a minimum.

The mentioned report is entirely about measurements.

Please know that there are no prototypes or demos. A new pollution free, abundant, and virtually free source of mechanical energy has been discovered.

Once again, thank you for your interest.

Sincerely,

Kenneth C. Kozeka, Ph.D.
President
KEDRON CORPORATION
615.618.3804

So note that there is nothing so far, only measurements. No free energy machines yet...
At least the guy was honest in telling that, unlike steorn, who claims to have working machines, even the one with 550 bhp output ..LOL

Free energy is a loose term, and what I meant is that you should see a gain due to the gravity working for you with the pendulum. Thats the point, not the lever. The lever just amplifies the effect. I don't really believe energy comes from nothing even if its being pulled out of the "aether," its still coming from somewhere.

The lever only converts high speed low torque motion of the pendulum to low speed high torque output with friction losses along the way. Gravity does no "work for you" because it effects the pendulum while it is swinging up as well as when it swings down.

And yes I actually was thinking about making one, as I don't have the parts in my garage atm. I like to think about it first and try and see the best parts and materials which could be used. For instance I'm sure theres a more efficient way to connect the arm to a generator.

While I do not think you will be successful in generating energy with such a machine I will give you a thumbs up if you do put forth the effort to build one measure and post the results. More confirming or disproving action and accurate data rather than statements using only the quoted work of others is what is needed to advance alternative energy.

. Have you even looked at the replication progress so far on the site? I'm sure someone would go through all that trouble of hoaxing those videos from the 1980's then release them 20 years later, creating fake patents, cordinating it with forum members in contact with him to agree with false data, create their own false replications and spread false data within the forum. In my opinion this isn't likely. More likely it does exactly what he claims it does, which is why people have made the progress they've have made thus far on their replications.

I have in fact looked at the information yet I will admit I have not carefully gone over every detail in the multitude of replication attempts...

Patents issued do not guarantee a working device. I'm not saying everyone is intentionally creating hoaxes. I agree that such a wide scale intentional fraud is very unlikely however many incorrect assumptions are the direct result of honest erroneous measurements. This is especially true when dealing with electronic measuring devices.

Its good to be skeptical, but not to the point that you don't even give it a chance or look simply because a hundred other people haven't replicated it. I'm glad people over at that forum have invested their time in decoding this device, and it was sought out just on faith that it could be real.

I agree its good to keep an open mind. What makes me skeptical of this device is not only the theory behind it but also all of the replication attempts by many people and several "successful" measurements yet no working device.

In order to have a working device you have to have an actual working device not one that "worked" when recorded on Steven Mark's video followed by a multitude of replications that only provide measurements that it "could" operate with no external power source. Meanwhile using an external power source to operate the device.

You suggest im guilty of believing in just any old device which claims free energy, but on the other side you deny something you haven't taken the time to understand. Look through the 100's of pages on that forum dedicated SM threads and tell me its all bs. If you can find the compliation of Steven Marks emails to a forum member, you will understand it a whole lot better, as he gives his insight and concepts of the device. Thats what really convinced me that his device works and is real. Read his words and you will understand that this guy is pretty dam insightful and brilliant

Keep in mind that just because Steven Mark is insightful and brilliant does not mean that he is honest or correct in his assumptions. Just because others have had "successful" measurements when using external power sources to power the device this does not mean their measurements are accurate.

With so much fraud and incorrect measuring that takes place in the alternative energy community there is a much greater need for solid replicateable proof than with other areas.

It turns out that they actually have nothing, its all papers.

Thats correct at this point it is only alleged measurements of magnets attracting more along the horizontal axis in relation to the poles than when pulled away along the vertcal axis when useing certain magnets and airgap.

As I mentioned earlier even if the stationary measurements do prove that the magnets attract more along the horizontal axis to that of the poles than they do along the vertical axis it will not mean for a fact that they can be used to generate energy. I do not know as of yet but there may be counter forces generated that effect the strength of the magnets when they are in motion depending on how they are moved in relation to each other. If counter forces are generated they might negate the greater attraction along the horizontal axis resulting in no net gain. However the first step for me is to replicate and confirm or disprove the basic measurements attained by Dr. Kozeka.


[edit on 29-6-2007 by Heckman]

I fully support this. It is strikingly similar to what John Searl is doing also with neodymium magnets. Anyone read about these type of magnets, they have a negative potential....hence a release of electrons, or inherrant voltage naturally. This is what makes the SEG function, and i give all my praise to this guy.

We must ALL stand up to BIG OIL and governments, we have the power not them. When we all unite together, we will win this energy battle, and stop the wars.

Peace.