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The Space Power Facility (SPF) is a vacuum chamber built by NASA in 1969. It stands 122 feet high and 100 feet in diameter, enclosing a bullet-shaped space. When completed, it was the world's largest vacuum chamber. It was originally commissioned for nuclear-electric power studies under vacuum conditions, but was later decommissioned. Recently, it was recommissioned for use in testing spacecraft propulsion systems. Recent uses include testing the airbag landing systems for the Mars Pathfinder and the Mars Exploration Rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, under simulated Mars atmospheric conditions.
Originally posted by earth2
Thats a cool find. I kinda dig your theory also, gonna start watching footage for distance now. Quick question about the moon buggy, how far was it shown driving? Seems like it went farther.
Originally posted by Yandros
Would you believe they actually built a 30 meter diameter circular dome room between 1964 and 1969!? When their whole budget was supposed to be being spent on getting to the moon, here they are building huge vacuum rooms for “nuclear electric power studies under vacuum conditions.” And as if that weren’t enough: they decommissioned it in 1975! Just three years after the final Apollo mission, Apollo 17.
Now lets consider most of the footage you see. For any given scene the subjects walk around in a space approximately 20 meters by 20 meters.
The jumps aren’t very high, as though just earth gravity slowed down to half speed. Obvious artificial lighting is used and the shadows aren’t sharp like they should be in hard sunlight.
Originally posted by Yandros
Now lets consider most of the footage you see. For any given scene the subjects walk around in a space approximately 20 meters by 20 meters. The jumps aren’t very high, as though just earth gravity slowed down to half speed. Obvious artificial lighting is used and the shadows aren’t sharp like they should be in hard sunlight.
Obvious artificial lighting is used
Originally posted by Yandros
damajikninja:
There is only a limited resolution you can pull from a lens and a CCD just as there is only a limited resolution you can get using an optical microscope.
*snip*
The Hubble could quite possibly take a photograph from 50 – 10 meters above the Apollo 11 landing site, but it is in NASA control, and they won’t hear a word of it.
*snip*
Better luck next time.
Originally posted by damajikninja
What about the other stuff I said? The "fact" that NASA went to the moon in record time with inadequate experience or technology - yet decades later, its still going to take them almost 15 years to get back to the moon?
[edit on 6/21/2007 by damajikninja]
Originally posted by Skunky
Obvious artificial lighting is used
In what way is it obvious?
Originally posted by IMAdamnALIEN
Great find Yandros....
You asked why they would fake the landing....
My guess is.......We were in a space race with Russia, it seems totally logical that the USA ego was striving to be the best, and if that meant fooling millions with a staged moon landing then so be it. All I have to say is Van Allen Radiation Belt, the truth lies in the belt.
Originally posted by Yandros
I think that the USSR and the US had a secret agreement to keep the coldwar going as an excuse to waste money on weaponising space. Is it a war if neither side is reckless enough or war crazed enough to do something stupid? No, seems more like an agreement.
The reason for faking video may have been out of sheer desperation.
Consider yourself in NASA's shoes:
Here’s a government that’s publicly committed itself to getting to the moon before the end of the decade. You've already blown most of your huge budget on Apollo 1 - 10 which were all complete disasters. With less than a year to go why wouldn't NASA simply film it on earth?
They had the means, the motive and the method.
Send up your rocket for a few days orbit around the earth, earlier having sent up a video reflector/relayer to the 'landing site' and relay the prerecorded video off the moon. Who would be the wiser? Its certainly much easier than sending people there – something I suspect they would have trouble doing even with today’s technology.
Certainly all the evidence of artificial lighting cannot be ignored. The number of anomalies NASA refuse to explain is just amazing. Right angle shadows, no blast crater, spotlight reflections in visors simply too large... the list goes on.
As for the Van Allen belts. Well apparently Van Allen himself states on the record that the astronauts could have survived the trip. But perhaps he forgets all those rainbow bomb tests the US government did; exploding nuclear bombs in the high upper atmosphere. It is said they made the belts many times more deadly than they naturally were by trapping a lot more radiation in them.
It begs the question: why not simply blast off from the south pole where the belts are basically negligible?
Originally posted by damajikninja
Valid points. I figured there had to be a reason private and academic 'scopes hadn't seen it yet. And I figured NASA was selfish with Hubble.
What about the other stuff I said? The "fact" that NASA went to the moon in record time with inadequate experience or technology - yet decades later, its still going to take them almost 15 years to get back to the moon?
[edit on 6/21/2007 by damajikninja]
Originally posted by maple5211
Also, it’s going to be interesting when you get china sending a man to the moon!!!
IF it was real, Just imagine it, what would happen IF they take the USA flag from out the ground and put their own flag in the moon!!!
This could very well spark a new cold war!!!!
Originally posted by Brother Stormhammer
Nope. It'll just cause the Moon Landing Hoax Chorus to scream that the footage is faked.