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The DNC makes me sick!

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posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 09:50 PM
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The DNC is a party full of utopians, people who want to see an end of private property ownership, people who want to drag the middle and upperclass down to the level of poverty so there is a classless system, people who want to end gun owner ship, people who want to down size the military so that it is weaker than any other nation's military, people who want them selves and the state worshiped, and not god. does the phrase "God is the state; the state is God" ring a bell? People like Hiliary Clinton and Ted "Jaba the Hut" Kennedy. God Help Us if Billiary Clinton is elected.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 09:53 PM
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WTF do you think the republicans want to do? Give us our freedoms? Didn�t the patriot act show you that!! The Bill of Rights is out the window and a Democrat didn�t do it Bush did and you dumb #s let him, and are going to vote for him again. Soon they will get our guns.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
WTF do you think the republicans want to do? Give us our freedoms? Didn�t the patriot act show you that!! The Bill of Rights is out the window and a Democrat didn�t do it Bush did and you dumb #s let him, and are going to vote for him again. Soon they will get our guns.



i will vote for shrub in 2004. I will never support a party whos ranks are filled with utopians. KARL MARX was a utopian, V.I. Lenin was a utopian. and republicans understand that guns dont kill people, the person who pulls the trigger kills people. and none of my freedoms have been limited. i have not yet noticed a limit to my freedoms.

and you support a party that will make our military weak? you want that? OUR MILITARY SHOULD BE THE BEST IN THE WORLD! but its not, cause billiy boy downsized it and cut funding not to mention or troops paychecks. thanks to him we are to compete with the russians and the chinees! WE WHOULD HAVE BETTER TECHNOLOGY THAN THEM! hell might as well run up the ol' hammer and sickle and just let the commies have it if a dem wins in 04.

[Edited on 1-7-2004 by KrazyIvan]



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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We got nukes!!! What the hell do we need a large military for!! I for one am sick of my tax dollars going to police the world. If someone messes with us Nuke them plain and simple, and btw I hate the dnc also but for different reasons, real reasons..



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:13 PM
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BTW you wouldn't notice limits in your freedoms. Because you never go to a library and read, or a book store. Where you will see signs similar to these.


Also the fbi can search your house anytime they want without telling you.


Here educate yourself out of your ignorance.

www.eff.org...

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by DiRtYDeViL]



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
We got nukes!!! What the hell do we need a large military for!! I for one am sick of my tax dollars going to police the world. If someone messes with us Nuke them plain and simple, and btw I hate the dnc also but for different reasons, real reasons..



what if were invaded numb nuts? and yes that can happen! you really want to nuke your own country? you commies know jack # when it comes to the military. nukes dont sove anything. they designed NOT to be used and as a deterant to other nations with nukes.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
BTW you wouldn't notice limits in your freedoms. Because you never go to a library and read, or a book store. Where you will see signs similar to these.


Also the fbi can search your house anytime they want without telling you.


Here educate yourself out of your ignorance.

www.eff.org...

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by DiRtYDeViL]




i have nothing to hide



in the word of Theoden

"Let them come!"



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan



what if were invaded numb nuts? and yes that can happen! you really want to nuke your own country? you commies know jack # when it comes to the military. nukes dont sove anything. they designed NOT to be used and as a deterant to other nations with nukes.


And you dumb #s think every person in the world is out to get you! I didn't say totally get rid of it but we don't need a million troops to protect us those #ing oceans do a good job.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan



i have nothing to hide



in the word of Theoden

"Let them come!"

You call me a commie? Let them take your freedoms because you have nothing to hide


Your pathetic!!!



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:45 PM
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KrazyIvan!!! yes, the DNC makes me sick as well. The whole wealth distribution ideas that comes out of that party bothers me. The leading Dem candidate wants to roll back the entire Bush tax cut also, that makes me sicker. Another Dem wants to slash the defense budget by 15%, regardless of our war on terror.

I believe the whole library issue in the patriot act that you're talking about, DirtyDevil, still requires a warrant signed by a judge. (which was the case prior to the patriot act anyway). And now, when that part of the patriot act is invoked, it must be reported to congress. And, they've yet to do invoke it. I'm not supporting the patriot act, don't get me wrong, but I don't support the propoganda out there regarding it. You might learn more by reading the act itself rather than reading some group with an agenda analysis of it.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:54 PM
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Section 215, aka "Attack of the Angry Librarians"

Section 215 is one of the surprising lightning rods of the Patriot Act, engendering more protest, lawsuits, and congressional amendments than any other. In part this is because this section authorizes the government to march into a library and demand a list of everyone who's ever checked out a copy of My Secret Garden but also because those librarians are tough.

What it does: Section 215 modifies the rules on records searches. Post-Patriot Act, third-party holders of your financial, library, travel, video rental, phone, medical, church, synagogue, and mosque records can be searched without your knowledge or consent, providing the government says it's trying to protect against terrorism.

The law before and how it changed: Previously the government needed at least a warrant and probable cause to access private records. The Fourth Amendment, Title III of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, and case law provided that if the state wished to search you, it needed to show probable cause that a crime had been committed and to obtain a warrant from a neutral judge. Under FISA�the 1978 act authorizing warrantless surveillance so long as the primary purpose was to obtain foreign intelligence information�that was somewhat eroded, but there remained judicial oversight. And under FISA, records could be sought only "for purposes of conducting foreign intelligence" and the target "linked to foreign espionage" and an "agent of a foreign power." Now the FBI needs only to certify to a FISA judge�(no need for evidence or probable cause) that the search protects against terrorism. The judge has no authority to reject this application. DOJ calls this "seeking a court order," but it's much closer to a rubber stamp. Also, now the target of a search needn't be a terror suspect herself, so long as the government's purpose is "an authorized investigation ... to protect against international terrorism."

from
slate.msn.com...

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by DiRtYDeViL]



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:11 PM
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What is wrong with ivan.
You make no sense,but then again your probably drinking vodka.Nobody is going to take my gun,nobody is going to take my country.Just because you russians were too drunk to know until too late,dont insult the rest of us.Whatis with the party sheit,be an individual or be a russian.F.U.
P.S. i dont know if i like the democratic party or the war party.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:12 PM
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What is wrong with ivan.
You make no sense,but then again your probably drinking vodka.Nobody is going to take my gun,nobody is going to take my country.Just because you russians were too drunk to know until too late,dont insult the rest of us.What is with the party sheit,be an individual or be a russian.F.U.
P.S. i dont know if i like the democratic party or the war party.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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dirty, how many times has that section been used? zilch.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: librarians should just stop recording who checks out what. Anonymous book check-out! Problem solved!



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:19 PM
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You know dirtydevil, you keep calling other people stupid, but wheres your degree? Do you have one? and if you do, is it not a handout like "political science"? i dont think so, just from the way you talk, really proves that your uneducated. If there is nothing that gets me mad the most, its STUPID people , like YOU, and Hollywood. If its true that you dont have an education, which most likey you dont, i have came up with this equation based on you , " my dog" and" The Baldwin Brothers" who are idiots like yourself.

----> we all know that Alec Baldwin dropped out after half of highschool and never received a diploma.


----> my dog , whose name will be simplified to L1, went through 3 years of training at petsmart which in human eqivilency is roughly between 18-20 years of education for a human. putting her in her mid 20s, about to go to grad school. She also got 2 " diplomas" upon gradution from the pet store.

: now if we set this up using a simple ratio and solve for our educational equivelacy:
ie : the left side of the proprtion is yours

(DDe)= dirtydevil education
(L1) dogs eduation
(DDt)= dirty devil total years
(L1t)= dog total years

assuming your age is constant and you completed the highest amount of eduacation possible for your own lifestyle.

education DDe = L1 e
divided by max number of years completed comes out to equal:
DDe L1e
----- = ------
DDt L1t

if you substitute in for just one variable on each side, you will get a constant you could sovle for. Even with two unsolved variables you can still figure out which is smarter, in this case, if you had the same backround as on of the infamous and politicaly genius " Baldwin Brothers" you would have lost to my dog, which beats you by alot. Im sure this is the same case for you.

In the end, im sure you will have some disbelief when you see the results, but considering the fact that i had this equation checked out by a couple of my fellow mathematicians, it was found out that it is a true statement and works on a variety of things.

The point is, morons that cant control thier idiot ideas and blurt the stupidist things out like you and hollyweird
should not be controlling out country.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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What I have I said that so stupid I noticed how you didn't point anything out. These people are stupid and so are you if you think the patriot act is good for our country. Or if you think this administration built on lies is actually good for our country. Yes I do have a BS but I�m not saying where or any date of graduation or even the specific field.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:52 PM
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Asserting that all Democrats are Utopian and secretly seek Communism...is just as absurd as saying all Uber Capitalist Republicans want to repeal free public airwaves, highway systems, public schools and a government supported military.

You realize those are all 'socialist' TAX supported institutions, right? So why aren't you the Commie?

Here's the answer. You're not. And neither is someone for national healthcare. You're definitions are arbitrary.

Taxes = bad, huh? Are Bush's tax rates good? Non socialist? What if a third party came along....let's call it THE PANDER PARTY...and it had a one plank platform.

Pander Party: Everything the Republicans want (which is basically everything the Dems want) EXCEPT CUT REPUBLICAN TAXES!!!

Would that make you mad? Would you think the Pander Party was full of crap? Or would you be a Pandercan?

Seriously, think about it.



posted on Jan, 8 2004 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by Bob88
dirty, how many times has that section been used? zilch.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: librarians should just stop recording who checks out what. Anonymous book check-out! Problem solved!


We wouldn't know if they ever used it, the librarians can't tell you anyway or the person they used it against. Is this what America is coming to? Yes a police state.!!



posted on Jan, 8 2004 @ 12:17 AM
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im guessing they did give you a political science degree. Oh no... maybe anthropolgy or even better.......the almighty PSYCHOLOGY.



posted on Jan, 8 2004 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Minion
im guessing they did give you a political science degree. Oh no... maybe anthropolgy or even better.......the almighty PSYCHOLOGY.

So you would mock someone's education figures. Ever wonder why so many educated people are liberal and why so many rich educated people are conservatives, because they are educated. Think about that real hard and get the dogs off your mind.



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