Micro missile silos around AREA-51??

Is it true that AREA-51 has these micro missile silos installations to shoot aircraft down who are attempting to enter the protected airspace without permission?/

probably,

THey have missile launchers on the white house roof. so it's possible. Might be cheaper too than having a plane circle the air space all day and night.

I'm thinking like mini stinger missiles n stuff. but why not just put a mobile sam launcher in Area51 instead. the techs already available and they work just fine.

Im certain that area 51 would have high tech security method, because we all talk about the place so much plus I had always wondered how easy it would be to fly over it or even fly a model plane with a camera attached!!!

Also, one thing that I have always been interest in is what is on top of the whitehouse, just to me on the 9/11 attacks, it looked like they had special forces with laser or missile cannons!!!!

then again its easier just to order them to land and then detain them.....not aircrafts dissappear off raadar that way...do you have google earth there are missile silos and a SAM installation not sure what the silos are for silos you have to open and then bring the missile up so there not normally used as a anti aircraft measure but the sam is in the middle of a concrete circle

I'm not sure if they are in silos, but Both Area 51 and the Nellis Range in general have SAM sites protecting them from airborne intruders. Groom Lake has it's own air defenses, we know that for sure. Also the base is protected by fighters. If you get too close, a few F-15's from Nellis will be paying you a mid-air "visit" !

Tim

They do NOT shoot down planes entering their airspace without permission. I've said it two or three times before, and I'll keep saying it. If you violate their airspace, you are intercepted by fighters from Nellis. They will escort you out of the airspace, at which point you will be met by police and the FAA for violating restricted airspace. Shooting down is done ONLY as an absolute last resort, and at that point you DESERVE to be shot down. There ARE SAM sites all around that area, but they're target ranges for Red Flag.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
They do NOT shoot down planes entering their airspace without permission. I've said it two or three times before, and I'll keep saying it. If you violate their airspace, you are intercepted by fighters from Nellis. They will escort you out of the airspace, at which point you will be met by police and the FAA for violating restricted airspace.

In peace times, NO! However Groom Lake is a military facility. Being such, it is prepared to defend itself in an emergence. A civilian flying into the area wouldn't be shot down, but you better believe that if an enemy aircraft such as a fighter or bomber tried to penetrate the area to attack they could and would be shot down.

Tim

Do you know how many US bases I've been on that have missiles in defense of them? NONE. And I've been on a lot of bases. Granted Area 51 is a restricted base with much more security, but still, if there were fixed defenses, they would be visible on satellite pictures. If we were in a war, why on earth would they bother with Area 51? Or even flying planes over the US. They would have much more luck launching missiles strikes, with either ICBMs, or large swarms of cruise missiles.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Do you know how many US bases I've been on that have missiles in defense of them? NONE. And I've been on a lot of bases.

Come on Zaphod, they don't sit these things out in the open! You know better than that.

I too have been on several military bases and never seen these defenses. However, that doesn't mean they don't exist. Your argument seems to be: "If I haven't seen it, it's not there". Nowhere in my post did I say these SAM sites were Fixed.

As long as you've been here on ATS, you should know that not being seen does NOT equal Nonexistante!

Tim

When I've been to 99% of a base, and know people in every area of work on said base, and have seen no sign of defenses, it's a pretty good clue that they're not there. Most of the ones I've been on have had weapons storage facilities that were too small to hold Patriot or even Avenger systems. They might have held Stingers, but a Stinger isn't going to do squat against a heavy bomber moving in at low altitude or high speed. US defense doctrine changed from fixed missile sites to the USAF intercepting the thread as it comes towards the US.

The problem with non-fixed defenses is that when someone attacks you, and your defenses are sitting inside their bunker waiting to deploy, you're screwed. If you don't know in enough time to get them out of storage, and deploy them, they're useless. And as long as I lived on some of those bases, I should have seen SOME kind of drill using them to practice deploying them, and I never did.

[edit on 6/20/2007 by Zaphod58]

I agree with Zahpod. I dont think A-51 has a need of Missile defense, as secure as it is, but I am not %100 sure.
To be honest, an intruder would in most cases be a brave (or stupid) kid flying his dads Cessna as close as he can come and going over. Maybe a wayward distress signal, or a crippled aircraft. certainly not a hostile aircraft that cant be assisted or thwarted away with a Ready 5 F-16.
Think of the social values if a plan came to close and they blew it up and then found out it had a bad transponder, or something to that effect. It could be the pilots fault, but for a while beofre that, it wold heavily in the publics eye therefor, A-51 is in the publics eye.
Its bad for business, I think.

D-3 has no silos.and is considered to be a low value target. in the event of war between major powers the concern would not be what could hurt you 10 years from now, but what could hurt you today.

There are no missile silos like that. It's pointless.

What would happen is the pilots would be get a biiiiggg fine after they landed. If they got any details then they may be locked up. No missiles involved.

Originally posted by Ghost01

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Do you know how many US bases I've been on that have missiles in defense of them? NONE. And I've been on a lot of bases.

Come on Zaphod, they don't sit these things out in the open! You know better than that.

I too have been on several military bases and never seen these defenses. However, that doesn't mean they don't exist. Your argument seems to be: "If I haven't seen it, it's not there". Nowhere in my post did I say these SAM sites were Fixed.

As long as you've been here on ATS, you should know that not being seen does NOT equal Nonexistante!

Tim

That doesn't mean that SAM sites are buried underground or hidden. I would only think that in wartime they may set up a few Patriot systoms around bases... but that's it.

Most Bases have Patriot and Hawk type SAM sites that can be deployed in moments if needed to defend the base. Truth be told, I'm not sure if the US even uses fixed SAM sites at all at this time. A fixed SAM site makes a good target for Air Stikes and SEAD.

Tim

Ok, if that's what you want to believe, I can't prove otherwise. But I KNOW that not one of the bases I was ever at had them. They never trained with them, they had nowhere to store them, and no one ever saw them.

Originally posted by Ghost01
Most Bases have Patriot and Hawk type SAM sites that can be deployed in moments if needed to defend the base. Truth be told, I'm not sure if the US even uses fixed SAM sites at all at this time. A fixed SAM site makes a good target for Air Stikes and SEAD.

Tim

No, most bases absolutely do not have SAM systems.