Is area 51 100% abandoned?

I was watching a show on the Travel chanal called "Inside Area 51" At the end, it said Area 51 was moved. Yes I know it was moved. But is it true that is so toxic, it is no longer inhabitable? I know back in the early 1990's they burned toxic waste. Then this guy went to investigate. They drove up to this place and no one was there. They ever drove as far as the fence to the limits where bombs were once tested in the 1950's. So, my question is, it it abandoned? If so, can you cross the limits to the public and not get you ass kicked?

Area 51 has NOT moved. In fact there was some recent construction going on there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I personally think that since everyone knows about area 51, why not just claim it's abandoned due to radioactivity? That would send people away!

[my question is, it it abandoned?

Far from being abandoned, Area 51 is as active as ever, and, in fact, there are more new buildings than a couple of years ago. The estimate is still the same, anywhere from 1200 to 1800 defense contractors at work in various shifts in various compartmentalized projects. The number of vehicles at the E.G. & G. Terminal at McCarren in Las Vegas has not lessened. I would even say that Area 51 has somewhat expanded in the past 6 months or so:

BREAKING NEWS: June 11, 2007

A huge new hangar is under construction at Area 51 !!

Here is an item of interest for the public, since our hard-earned tax dollars are involved and, hopefully, at work at the base:

A huge new hangar is under construction at Area 51 - June 11, 2007
www.dreamlandresort.com...


The photo was taken on June 10, 2007 from Tikaboo Peak.
A huge new hangar is currently under construction at Area 51. It is about 1.5 to 2 times the size of Hangar 18, which was the largest hangar at Area 51 until now. The new hangar is located SE of the South Ramp, near the north end of Rwy 12/30. The sides have not been finished, but a large hangar door opening can be seen on the side facing the flight line. A large mound of dirt blocks the view at the lower part of the hangar from Tikaboo. This may be related to the construction, or to keep curious hikers from seeing the construction area. The estimated size is 200 ft x 500 ft and 100 feet tall.

Also, for those of you who may not have kept up with the recent developments at Area 51, just last year a tall structure was erected near the DYCOMMS and Quick Kill radar sites (next to the Radar Cross Section site):

New 14 Story Tower At Area 51
Photo at : www.dreamlandresort.com...
www.dreamlandresort.com...

The new tower appears to be about 180 ft. tall.

courtesy of www.dreamlandresort.com...

By the way, is Area 51 really called Area 51 ? No, not any more. The name Area 51 originated from old maps of the Nevada Test Site from the 1950's.

On these maps, the land around Groom Lake was marked as Area 51. The term was officially used from the 1960's until the late 1980's, during the time when the base was mostly controlled by the DoD and CIA.

After the Air Force took over in the late 1980's, the name was changed to Air Force Flight Test Center, Detachment 3, or, for short, AFFTC Det. 3. This is still the official designation of the Groom Lake base.

However, Area 51 is still commonly used to refer to the base.

What Area 51 is about (at the present moment, June, 2007) can be seen at:

www.hometown.aol.com...

Originally posted by UziXxX

They drove up to this place and no one was there. They ever drove as far as the fence to the limits where bombs were once tested in the 1950's. So, my question is, it it abandoned?

I think that story was in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics I forget which. The Travel Channel may have picked up on it. The mistake the magazine reporter made was driving south on mailbox road and not turning right on the Groom Lake road. He went all the way to the Nellis bombing range which was, of course, locked. The magazine even went so far as to say "And we know where it is!" meaning the alleged new Area 51. They claimed it was in Utah which was total disinformation.

Several of the Area 51/Groom Lake projects WERE moved in the early 90's up to another secret base near Twin Falls, Idaho. The actual base is about an hours drive out of Twin Falls.

Area 51 is an attention grabber with some fame. Its best to keep everyone looking up in the sky or at the ground level at some new empty buildings.


Really Area 51 is a "play site"

The real major test area has now been moved and has been for quite sometime. Its been moved to an area with less curious people - not armed with cameras and camping gear. (try not even in our country)

If you think the Govt. would really let you know where our next best thing is being developed you are wronge. So good luck searching









**note The above information is stated based off of public knowledge and is strictly opinion**

[edit on 16-6-2007 by Northp]

of cause there would be activity in Groom lake, but nothing spectacularly secret. as it was said, any top secret government activity would be in a more secure area.

Area 51 would, from what i would assume, be still used to test aircraft. it really would now just be a regular old military base, just one that is slightly more famous.

Originally posted by funny_pom

of cause there would be activity in Groom lake, but nothing spectacularly secret. as it was said, any top secret government activity would be in a more secure area.

Area 51 would, from what i would assume, be still used to test aircraft. it really would now just be a regular old military base, just one that is slightly more famous.

I would imagine that they use Groom Lake as a show piece for Representatives and Senators and others to 'show off' whatever they want these people to know. I imagine that they put on quite a show for the infinitely gullible. They probably have a storage are underground for old projects and equipment and they take the legislators down there and show them the 'secret underground aliens base', and have a good laugh.

Well, also in the program I was watching, it said all UFO sightings, and other strage reports have stopped completely.

I watched that show too on the Travel Channel (of course, it was after Most Haunted!). The "new Area 51" in Utah they eluded to was Dugway Proving Grounds/Michaels AFB. I was on GoogleEarth at the time and checked it out. It is indeed in the middle of nowhere. Oddly enough, utahbigfoothunter has been snapping pictures of a lot of stuff HE suspects is underground facilities and I think it's all pretty much right there near Dugway.
Personally, it wouldn't suprise me at all.

Cuhail

Here is the location of one of the secret underground bases to the west of Dugway:

It would make tons of sence that if indeed area 51 was 100% abandoned, that they would nuke the facility totaly. To cover up any proof of anything. But then of corse the government would make up a totaly crappy story like, a plane crashed...ect. ect. ect.

Well, this thread went downhill faster than I expected.

UziXxX, I suggest you visit this site:

www.dreamlandresort.com...

Admin edit: Please do not use ALL CAPS when posting. Secondly, non topic-related queries deserve their own thread. Thanks.

[edit on 16-6-2007 by SimonGray]

Groom Lake is not abandoned by any streatch of the imagination. In fact from what we have found, I would say the base is as busy as ever and even growing. The source of this popular misconception is that they do not conduct outdoor operations during the day time Area 51. Flight Testing is conducted either in the earily morning or the late evening when few people are around. Also Area 51 has what is known as Condition Watchdog

Condition Watchdog is a code that means uncleared people have been detected in the vacinity of the base who have a clear view of it or the airspace above Groom Lake.

The Moment Condition Watchdog is declared, ALL sight-sensitive assets on the base are rushed undercover and all test operations outdoors are suspended.

Tim

Originally posted by johnlear
Here is the location of one of the secret underground bases to the west of Dugway:

What state is Dugway in? Im Canadian so im not to great with my states.
Do you know what they do in this base?

Originally posted by scorps

What state is Dugway in? Im Canadian so im not to great with my states.

Dugway is in Utah.

Do you know what they do in this base?

I don't know but it may be classified as this base is not on the current Nevada State Automobile and Travel map.

This is why I have come to Ats... I thought that Groom Lake was seperate from Area 51... how embarrasing. I have been into these studies all of my life and there is always so many new things to learn.

what if the cammo dudes were the only ones there and the rest of the base was abandoned? think about it. If it was completely abandoned then you'd have yourself a tourist site with hundreds of people going out to the base . but if you were to go out in the desert today, the cammo dudes are still there. this video was in 2008 . The base isnt completely abandoned.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by Cold51]

[edit on 30-10-2009 by Cold51]

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