Wife Of A British Muslim Islamo-facist

Here in the real world,anyone can see and read the truth.Most if not all of my quotes are from major news outlets,feel free to check them yourself.You on the other hand seem to be unable to grasp the truth.I feel sorry for you.
Here another "obscure article" I'm sure.

[edit on 15-6-2007 by rdang]

Originally posted by rdang
would these people be less violent if they were christians?
Yes.I have answered you.

alright... so you're saying that the bible isn't as violent and provoking as the koran

you're saying that the teachings in the old testament wouldn't be taken literally

and you're basically showing the level of delusion that you're in.

the bible actually has more violent passages than the koran (partially because it's a longer document) and it justifies the worst atrocities imaginable. genocide is condoned in the bible! G E N O C I D E.
and it's not like we'd los the antisemitism if they were christians, they'd probably be like a lot of christians in the states, hating jews because they "killed jesus"

could you back up your argument that they'd be less violent if they were christian?

edit to add: oh, and that article you just posted... i stopped reading it when i started seeing the ignorance. "hamas-stan"
yeah, that shows a clear misunderstanding of the middle east
the suffix "stan" implies a place for
afghanistan "place for afghans"
kurdistan "place for kurds"

[edit on 6/15/07 by madnessinmysoul]

You guys, there's no such thing as radical Islam. This silly notion that radical Islamist are trying to take over the world is unfounded. Just ask Abbas, the leader of the peaceful Fatah group that's currently in charge of the West Bank.

O wait a min. Abbas doesn't seem to be in his office today. It's currently occupied by some other peaceful organization.



[edit on 15-6-2007 by dbates]

dbates, i don't think anyone is saying that radical islamic fundamentalists don't exist.

i'm saying that they're not a result of islam for they could very easily be a product of any religion (except maybe buddhism), i think the root cause of terrorism isn't islam i think it's religion in general combined with socioeconomic conditions.

and i'm also pointing out how rdang shows a clearly uneducated and sometimes outright bigoted view of islam

Originally posted by dbates
You guys, there's no such thing as radical Islam. This silly notion that radical Islamist are trying to take over the world is unfounded. Just ask Abbas, the leader of the peaceful Fatah group that's currently in charge of the West Bank.

O wait a min. Abbas doesn't seem to be in his office today. It's currently occupied by some other peaceful organization.

Just in case you weren't aware, that photo is from the Presidential Compound in Gaza City, not the West Bank where Mr Abbas is actually based.

Sorry to misrepresent the photo. That's correct. They only took over his Gaza complex. The thought process is still the same though. It's a take-over from a radical Islamic group. I'm sure that no one will sleep better in Gaza with masked men sitting behind the desk at the presidential office.

alright... so you're saying that the bible isn't as violent and provoking as the koran

you're saying that the teachings in the old testament wouldn't be taken literally

and you're basically showing the level of delusion that you're in.

the bible actually has more violent passages than the koran (partially because it's a longer document) and it justifies the worst atrocities imaginable. genocide is condoned in the bible! G E N O C I D E.
and it's not like we'd los the antisemitism if they were christians, they'd probably be like a lot of christians in the states, hating jews because they "killed jesus"

could you back up your argument that they'd be less violent if they were christian?

edit to add: oh, and that article you just posted... i stopped reading it when i started seeing the ignorance. "hamas-stan"
yeah, that shows a clear misunderstanding of the middle east
the suffix "stan" implies a place for
afghanistan "place for afghans"
kurdistan "place for kurds"














And yet the Bible,that you claim is so bad, No Christian has acted like the "radical" Muslims.The Bible is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
Now who the the delusional one.

Originally posted by rdang

And yet the Bible,that you claim is so bad, No Christian has acted like the "radical" Muslims.The Bible is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
Now who the the delusional one.

Firstly, it would make your posts much easier to read if you learnt how to use the quote function.

Secondly, your claims are that rubbish it's hardly worth trying to tell you otherwise. History is repleat with examples of "Christianity gone bad". A simple, cursory examination into the matter would prove you wrong.

Originally posted by dbates

O wait a min. Abbas doesn't seem to be in his office today. It's currently occupied by some other peaceful organization.

Even in our own history we have photos or portraits of our own conquests...some of them even staged (Iwo Jima) so whats the big deal. It was either Hamas gets taken out by Fatah and the Israelis or Hamas stands their ground and asserts their power that they were voted in to do by the people. They stood their ground asserted their power and proved to their voters that they would not be pushed out by Israel/USA/Fatah.


Oh and the masks, well if the Israelis knew who they were they would either kill them or go after their families or maybe both. So I would wear a mask too.




[edit on 15-6-2007 by ThePieMaN]

Who are you kidding,they hide their faces from each other.Hamas has issued a 30 name list of Fatah leaders they want to kill.Hamas is like a rabid dog,now they will turn on something new.The latest thing seems to be throwing them off the roof.Obscure link.

Originally posted by rdang
Who are you kidding,they hide their faces from each other.Hamas has issued a 30 name list of Fatah leaders they want to kill.Hamas is like a rabid dog,now they will turn on something new.The latest thing seems to be throwing them off the roof.Obscure link.

From each other? What are you talking about. They hide from the Israelis...Just look at what happens to the Hamas and Fatah members that are known. The Israelis go to their houses and arrest them or drop bombs on top of their houses. Israel is the only country in the world that legitimizes assasination.

Throw them off the roof, hang them until their head comes off....I guess we are more humane because we gave them a trial first before we hung them and ripped off their heads.

Yes,terrible threat those Israelis.I don't know what came over me,of course they would have no need to hide from each other.




[edit on 15-6-2007 by rdang]

[edit on 15-6-2007 by rdang]

Originally posted by rdang
And yet the Bible,that you claim is so bad, No Christian has acted like the "radical" Muslims.

not on any significant scale in the last few decades, no. but they have. but the difference is that most christians live in secular societies with secular morality, they read the bible on the background of their secular society with secular law and morality and throw out the passages that don't fit.

The Bible is nowhere near as bad as you claim.

Intolerance
Injustice
Cruelty and Violence
"Family Values"
Contradictions
Treatment of Women

Now who the the delusional one.

you.
have you ever even read a bible the whole way through?

not on any significant scale in the last few decades, no. but they have. but the difference is that most christians live in secular societies with secular morality, they read the bible on the background of their secular society with secular law and morality and throw out the passages that don't fit.


Now who the the delusional one.

you.
have you ever even read a bible the whole way through?














Intolerance:
Sura (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Sura (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Sura (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah..."

Sura (3:118) - "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people..."

Sura (9:23) - "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates "slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them").


Injustice:
Book 38, Number 4390, I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.


Cruelty and Violence:
Book 2, Number 0494,The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then beat him for prayer.
Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses that he has adultery (four times, as required). Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.
Volume 3, Book 46, Number 718:I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."


"Family Values":
Book 008, Number 3309: 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him.
Book 008, Number 3311: 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.


Treatment of Women
4.34.: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those [women] from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart; and scourge [beat] them. Then, if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great."
Sura (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"
Sura (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands if there is no water to purify them following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).
Sura (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye
That was easy.

Originally posted by rdang

Intolerance:

[...]

That was easy.

You do understand that I've already gone over those Surrahs with you, or do you choose to ignore any posts that disagree with yours?

You might also want to read up on the activities of the National Liberation Front of Tripura and the Seas of David.

[edit on 16-6-2007 by DJMessiah]

You do understand that I've already gone over those Surrahs with you, or do you choose to ignore any posts that disagree with yours?

You might also want to read up on the activities of the National Liberation Front of Tripura and the Seas of David.

[edit on 16-6-2007 by DJMessiah]














Didn't I answer you,please refresh my memory.I would think that I had.

rdang, nobody is saying that islam doesn't have its bad points. EVERYTHING has its bad points. you're deflecting here. you're refusing to acknowledge the good in islam.

Surah 109

1 Say: O disbelievers!
2 I worship not that which ye worship;
3 Nor worship ye that which I worship.
4 And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6 Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

and you're also refusing to acknowledge the bad stuff in christianity. can you prove your point that christianity would inherently give rise to the morality that is in the west. it's quite apparent to anyone observing that the issue is more that christianity has evolved to cope with secular morality that has risen in the west.

rdang, do you have any comments for this thread?

Muslim groups assist Canadian Vets

Originally posted by intrepid
rdang, do you have any comments for this thread?

Muslim groups assist Canadian Vets

i have one better

www.belowtopsecret.com...

muslims providing FREE medical care to Muslims and None Muslims
by opening one of the first free health clinics in the US

but i doubt our islamophobic friend will both reading any those

[edit on 16-6-2007 by bodrul]

Originally posted by intrepid
rdang, do you have any comments for this thread?

Muslim groups assist Canadian Vets

No, but it's nice to see that.During WWII,there was a nazi,I don't recall his name,but he helped a number of Jews to escape.He ended up being buried in a Jewish cemetery.So where are you wanting to go with this.