Mormons and their relationship to the NWO

I do agree with Valdimer about the extremist Mormons. As I was saying before, only the Die-Hard Mormons can get into their secret temples, which is probabaly a planning place for their acts. But, we still don't know what goes on inside. I am not trying to say all Die-Hard Mormons are extremist, but some are. Plus, I believe that untill we can see what goes on inside, we can assume that they are a NWO threat, but we can't say anything spesific. I can also tell that Valdimer is lying. If you try to step into his shoes, you can see that he is not trying to spread disinformation, but defend his religion. So guys, just lay off. He had no idea what in the Hell goes on inside of the Mormon temples, or in the lot of Extremist Mormons.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way but you need to do more research and get your facts straight. Anyway I am Mormon, I have been in the temple but one time because I am not worthy plain and simple. The temple itself was built just for the purpose of worshiping our lord and no more. I do believe in ufos, NWO, reptilians under our city, and many other things people might find outrageous including people of my faith. However I do believe in God and that he has a plan. I also know for a fact we are all hypocrites and we are all sinners including hard core members of the church. Why is this? Because we are all mere humans nothing more nothing less no matter how small or how big the sin. The church itself I can tell you is not directly linked to NWO. We are like you said christians, but just consider that man is just man and bad people do participate in our faith. I think you should be more worried about our government that the mormon church when it comes to NWO. Also did you know that the basis of any religion no mater how twisted people make it is simply your personal relationship with our lord. I screw up a lot, I am a hypocrite but I try to do better unlike many on our planet
including fellow church members. I think at best you could say that members of the LDS church are involved in the NWO but please do your research.

Originally posted by TechnoFan21
I do agree with Valdimer about the extremist Mormons. As I was saying before, only the Die-Hard Mormons can get into their secret temples, which is probabaly a planning place for their acts. But, we still don't know what goes on inside. I am not trying to say all Die-Hard Mormons are extremist, but some are. Plus, I believe that untill we can see what goes on inside, we can assume that they are a NWO threat, but we can't say anything spesific. I can also tell that Valdimer is lying. If you try to step into his shoes, you can see that he is not trying to spread disinformation, but defend his religion. So guys, just lay off. He had no idea what in the Hell goes on inside of the Mormon temples, or in the lot of Extremist Mormons.

I hope that part about me lying is a typo.

Who said I was spreading disinfo?

My mother is getting married in the temple in Nashville next saturday, and I'll tell then what I tell you now, and what was confirmed in the above post. Those temples are just like any other sacred ground for other branches of Christianity. It is for those that the church has deemed worthy of entry. I'll only be allowed so far in, but that's ok. I don't mind.

As for Mormons constantly having to wear black ties and white shirts and stuff like that? If that were the case, we'd be the best dressed in the country!

Originally posted by Valdimer
I hope that part about me lying is a typo.

I was never saying that you were lying. At all. I was only saying that you don't know what it going on in there. I am even saying that some of the people who are worthy enough of going into the temples don't even know whats going on. There are more rooms than you can even count in those places. I guess that I am also saying is that not all, would know if something is up, but some will. If I came off sounding like I was saying that all worthy enough to enter the temples are connected to a conspiracy, my mistake. Sorry.

First off, I'm Mormon. But, I love conspiriacy theories. Here's one that kinda ties this together. I'm gonna leave the NWO aspect alone, but it brings the government in. Here goes: Black Helicopters -- alright. We know they exsist, the governemnt has them. But where do they keep them? They don't--the Mormons are housing the black helicopters so they don't get directly traced to the government. Alot of really weird stuff goes on out west, and that's where the Church is based. (I'm a "back east" Mormon.) For the record: it doesn't have anything to do with the temple. I don't think Salt Lake is in on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Church has a black box (to keep the black helicopters in) What does anyone else think--especially the Mormons? I remember the first time I asked the missionaries if they knew if the Church had helicopters. At first they told me some members might, but the Church itself doesn't. After a minute they finally started to wonder about the question. I think the entire mission area knows about me and the Black Helicopter story now. The theory is a little more detailed, but I think you get the just of it.

If you've read any of my posts since I've been here, you know my feelings on religion. I'm sorry you feel that you need this so called religion... but I know for a fact that there is something really fishy about Mormons [EDIT: I mean the religion itsself, not all mormons or something like that]. I have a friend named Jesse, and his immediate family had been Mormons for a long time, but supposedly his mother and father rejected the faith once they went on their own. The really odd thing about this, though, is that Jesse is gone now..... and lives in Idaho now, very close to Boise, and has ceased all conmunication with me recently, seeming for no reason.

If that were the only odd thing about what I now deem "Jesse and the Mormons", I'd be inclined to just brush it off as coincidence.... but Jesse's extended family is HEAVY DUTY Mormons. They can't even listen to Britney Spears or drink soda. Not to mention the fact that Jesse's mother's side of the family is where the most extreme
Mormonism comes from.... and Jesse's mother completely disappeared for almost ten years. Apparently, she had joined a CULT and had been brainwashed.... and a few years ago, she just showed back up, and Jesse's dad who had said he would never ever take her back for what she did, just like took her back seemingly like nothing happened.... and then that's when Jesse's dad decided to SELL his very successful multi-million dollar company that he was the founder and owner of, called Complete Pump... and after that, the moving started. They must have moved around state like 5 times within a period of 3 years, then moved to UTAH for about 3 months, moved back to Illinois for some reason, bot only for a few months. They then, seeminly outta nowhere, just decided to up and move to Idaho.
I remember Jesse was not happy at all, and he was gunna stay here, and I was gunna get him a job at the HVAC company I was with at the time, but then all the sudden, he just had a COMPLETE freak out, completely changed personality 180 degrees, ended up disappearing for a few months, supposedly to see his girlfriend.... but when he came back, just a couple months before his ENTIRE IMMEDIATE FAMILY (he has three sisters with families of their own, and they all moved,too, even though apparently none of them wanted to at first...???) he was completely different. He was into completely different music, doing dfrugs all the time, #ing me and everyone else over.... all this from one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet (well, before then, he was the nicest guy).....

And now, his ENTIRE FAMILY has moved out there, his girlfriend (understandable), and even a few of our friends from around here either have already moved out there, or they are preparing to move out there. Lots of people who have undergone some bizarre behaviour changes, turned into completely different people.... all these super strange events that have happened to me in the past couple opf years....

And reading this thread gave me the chills... because that's EXACTLY where Jesse is now. His family's ties with Mormons, the "elite" (including Barack Obama.... Jesse told me years ago that Barck was gunna become president. I was like WHO?), cults, masonry.... dude, I shudder to think what you may have stumbled upon.

For you Mormons chiming in on this thread, I am in no way implying that any of this is related to normal practicing Mormons. This is so bizarre, it's waaaaaay beyond Mormonism as seen by it's regular followers.... and I don't think at it's root, is Mormonism at all.

This is an eerie thread. I gotta go and level my head out for a while.

[edit on 29-2-2008 by indierockalien]

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Just wanted to know if you tried working with any search firms/placement agencies in your area to help you get work? The hiring market is very competetive all over the U.S.. Hate to say it but you may have to settle for a lower paying job for now if you can live with that. You should not have to change religions just to get a job. You seem to be a victim of bad hiring practices by narrow minded companies, good luck.

Why do Mormons have masonic symbols on thier secret underwear? Follow that line of enquiry and the WHOLE picture will become apparent.

Mr Smith was a mason before he was a mormon. Maybe if you were to join the masons you may have a better chance at getting a job?



The underwear question is a good thing to ask when you are not in the mood to be converted in public by fresh young things on thier missions. Stonewalls the poor sods and they go on thier merry way as if they have just witnessed satan in the flesh. I dont think they are trained to answer that question, maybe they dont like people knowing about their special sexy mormon under garments.

I'm hesitant to speak publicly about Mormonism. I understand how much it offends Mormons to hear their religion discussed or analyzed etc....

because usually, after discussing and analyzing Mormonism, we come to the conclusion that it is a .... well, I won't say it. But Joseph Smith was not a normal man. He was a Mason. And Mormonism is full of Masonic symbolism ( I could care less how much Masons on this forum try to diminish the occult nature of Masonry... they don't even acknowledge Masonry's occult nature, which is a huge sign of dishonesty.)

If you are a mormon : please forgive me:

Mormonism is a sham. It was invented to further seperate people from 'true' (unstructured) Christianity, just like Catholicism. The Mormon Church is the Vatican. There is no difference.

The number of stories of shock-therapy for homosexuals, the constant flip-outs and sexual assaults from Mormons who have been pushed too far, or repressed too long, are all indications of a serious religious scam.

For those who follow Mormonism only in the intent of worshipping Christ or realizing God, I fully understand how all the scandals surrounding their religion can be a heavy burden to bear.

But the scandals exist all the same... those who are 'in the know' about Mormonism say quite frankly that it is a satanic institute designed to lead people away from any true spiritual realization. I believe them.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Valdimer, I honestly think that there is a conspiracy to undermine anything that is not mainstream. This thread, in my honest opinion, is turning into a perfect example of what I mean.

Since when is Mormonism not 'mainstream'? It's a major religion in America and is in the spotlight constantly.

I think it's really petty to downplay threads because you dislike the topic. If you don't think people should discuss Masonry, or Mormonism, or any other topic, I recommend visiting a different message board.

im a member of the LDS church, ive been to the local orlando temple many times, i hate the nwo/un and i hate gun control, i can guarantee u that nothing related to nwo happens there, now the jesuits of ghe catholic church are most assuradly part of the nwo, thats who we should fear

Originally posted by TechnoFan21

Originally posted by Valdimer
I hope that part about me lying is a typo.

I was never saying that you were lying. At all. I was only saying that you don't know what it going on in there. I am even saying that some of the people who are worthy enough of going into the temples don't even know whats going on. There are more rooms than you can even count in those places. I guess that I am also saying is that not all, would know if something is up, but some will. If I came off sounding like I was saying that all worthy enough to enter the temples are connected to a conspiracy, my mistake. Sorry.

how do you know how many rooms are in a temple, when was the last time you were in one? where do yall get this information?

The only "conspiracy" I'm aware with with Mormons is their penchant for pseudohistory. A lot of the beliefs and practices of the Native Americans have been "filtered" through Mormonism.

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(including Barack Obama.... Jesse told me years ago that Barck was gunna become president. I was like WHO?)

I had no idea Obama was a Mormon. Is this confirmed?

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( I could care less how much Masons on this forum try to diminish the occult nature of Masonry... they don't even acknowledge Masonry's occult nature, which is a huge sign of dishonesty.)

They might be some Masons that diminish their occult roots, but most of the Masons on ATS freely admit their order's occult nature. Read some of Masonic Light's posts.

obama is of muslim decent, his middle name is hussain, he has no ties with the lds church, like i said im mormon, and the first thing im gonna do when the blue helmets arrive is take em out with my .300 win mag, defence of my home and defence of the constitution, oorah!

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Wow, everything that isn't mainstream is part of the NWO, eh? Wow, I must be an informant for the NWO by that "logic."

You people are funny.

if by "funny" you mean something like "HEY! This cheese smells funny. We should throw it all out." then I'm going to have to agree with you wholeheartedly. I just have to wait for them all to find out that the root of the NWO is actually these people: www.martinfrost.ws...
And then I'll go.

my understanding is htat for the NWO to take over as a One World Gonernment the Constitution Of The Unted States would ether need to be destroyed or in some other way be nutralized,

In Doctrin And Covenants (D&C is a book that usually comes as part of The Book Of Mormon, basically it states the general beliefs of the LDS church), D&C Section 101 Verses 79-80 says
"79:Therefore, it is not right that any man should be in bondage one to another.
81:And for this purpose have I Established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood."

this pretty much says that members of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints believe that the constitution was established through divine means, Joseph Smith (1st latter day prophet who found and translated the Book Of Mormon through Divine Revelation) stated in a talk in 1840 that one day the constitution would hang as a thread, and that the rightious members of the church would comeforth and defend and uphold the constitution of the US. How long it will take for this to happen isnt certain, since the Constitution doesnt support a one world gov't and the members of the church (and the church) support the constitution then how could they be related to the NWO or One World Governtment

wow I had no idea this thread had come back up !

Well to update my status...

Im still unemployed.

Ive even interviewed for a local Target store that just opened. I nailed the interview. I have retail experience, having worked at Radio Shack for 4 years while in college. I never even got a phone call from them sigh.

Just to prove a point, I went into Target the day it opened and chatted with the person who got my job (electronics dept manager). I asked him how would I hook up a television to a dvd player if I didnt have any video inputs (the answer is an rf modulator). He had no clue what I was asking about...I made my point.

I have some friends back east that gave me a good tip...do some volunteer work and make some contacts. It might lead to a job. Anyway, the problem with this idea is that the mormons do so much volunteer work that there is a 2yr waiting list for places like "Meals on Wheels". The only place that I found wanted my help was the local animal control center and I doubt cleaning up dog poo is going to get me anywhere.

Ive tried the local govt assistance office as someone suggested. Also I looked at temp agencies. Again, nothing there for me. They want secretaries (i cant type) or general labor for construction.

I have basically given up on the idea that I will ever work again. I have time working against me (along with the local employers). Im getting older which narrows the field, nobody wants to hire a 40yr old for any entry lvl positions. And then there is the issue of my references. Its been nearly 3 yrs + since Ive worked. Some of them barely recall my name anymore.

As far as the NWO connection, I have found nothing really to suggest the Mormons have any input with them. I did read in one of Dr. Greer's books that the Mormons were involved and possibly running the whole dam thing.
Considering how the mormons compartmentalize information like the govt does, I thought the idea had merit.

i will be honest morons like working with mormons, its a trust thing, try makin friends with em, or try moving some where else, or working in another town

oops my bad, typo i really did mean mormons like working with mormons, since im mormon i would never cal us morons, lol