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2 Party System=corrupt democracy

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posted on Jun, 3 2007 @ 08:07 AM
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Why does the US not reform it's system so that multiple parties have a chance at getting some seats in the House?
This could be done with some simple reforms in the way the election selects the representatives.

A better way would be to allow each party that qualifies to run a candidate list for a USHRep. seat..so for example if the Green Party got 7% of the vote and the state of California has 43 seats-they would get 3 seats; if the Democrats got 22%-they would get 9 seats. The candidates would then be sent to districts that most closley voted their respective parties.

This would make the government much more responsive to the will of the voters, example, the way it works now:
If you are for strong controls against illegal immigration, and at the same time are adamently opposed to the US occupation of Iraq-you have no one to vote for and the millions of people like you have no representation, under the new system there would be a party that shares those kinds of views.

This type of system also makes political parties more responsive to their base, like in Europe if the labor party gets too nepotistic and corrupt, it will lose votes to smaller alternative parties, thus the system keeps it in line.

The multiparty system is also much less influenced by special interest group lobbying.

[edit on 3-6-2007 by corruptioninvestigator]



posted on Jun, 3 2007 @ 09:48 AM
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I agree that the two-party system is broken. That's why I'm running for President on the Fascist ticket. I want everybody to write in "America Jones" wherever they vote next. Now I understand that Fascism has gotten a bad rap lately, and that many people may be reluctant to vote for a Fascist, but the value of voting for a third-party candidate is this: it registers one's discontent with the two-party system. If one gives up on voting, one's discontent is never registered, and if one continues to vote for Democrats and Republicans, one simply fuels one's own discontent. If you don't want to vote for me, then vote for yourself, but for God's sake quit voting for Democrats and Republicans. The War on Terror started under Clinton, Bush is just presiding over the big power grab before the police state lockdown. There's no difference between these jokers. Vote Fascist.


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posted on Jun, 4 2007 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by America Jones
I agree that the two-party system is broken. That's why I'm running for President on the Fascist ticket. I want everybody to write in "America Jones" wherever they vote next. Now I understand that Fascism has gotten a bad rap lately, and that many people may be reluctant to vote for a Fascist, but the value of voting for a third-party candidate is this: it registers one's discontent with the two-party system. If one gives up on voting, one's discontent is never registered, and if one continues to vote for Democrats and Republicans, one simply fuels one's own discontent. If you don't want to vote for me, then vote for yourself, but for God's sake quit voting for Democrats and Republicans. The War on Terror started under Clinton, Bush is just presiding over the big power grab before the police state lockdown. There's no difference between these jokers. Vote Fascist.


i'm not quite sure what to make of this post however I would encourage anyone to just go independent. lou dobbs has been showing polls on how 45% of americans indentify themselves as independents, I hope the trend continues.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 03:45 AM
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Corruptioninvestigator you might be interested in the MMP system. Here in New Zealand the MMP system is used to ensure proportional representation. Its up to Americans if they want to change there political system. Advocates of change should at least take a look at the MMP system.


Mixed member proportional representation, also termed mixed-member proportional representation and commonly abbreviated to MMP, is a voting system used to elect representatives to numerous legislatures around the world. MMP is similar to other forms of proportional representation (PR) in that the overall total of party members in the elected body is intended to mirror the overall proportion of votes received; it differs by including a set of members elected by geographic constituency who are deducted from the party totals so as to maintain overall proportionality

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posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 04:46 AM
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That the two party system in America is broken is becoming more and more evident. A multiparty system is needed without a doubt.

But...

The two major parties both cover so many issues and stands that it will be hard for a third party, much less many, to make any sort of headway against them. A third party is almost by necessity, required to be a one issue party, and rightly or wrongly, both major parties look at it and say "we're already saying that", or something along those lines.

The umbrellas of the two parties cast such a wide shadow that it is going to be extremely hard for a third party to make any headway as a group. Individuals may indeed get places in the political system, but for a group or party? Not nearly so easy...



posted on Jun, 12 2007 @ 11:37 PM
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Chomsky wrote an article about the two party system. He called it Heuranmics or something. Can't find it now.

www.chomsky.info...



The constitutional system was originally designed “to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority,” in the words of the leading framer, James Madison [4th Pres. & 'Father of the Constitution']. Political power, he explained, must be in the hands of “the wealth of the nation,” men who can be trusted to “secure the permanent interests of the country”—the rights of the propertied—and to defend these interests against the “leveling spirit” of the general public. If the public were allowed to participate freely in elections, Madison warned his colleagues, their “leveling spirit” might lead to measures to improve the conditions of those who “labor under all the hardships of life, and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings...”


That's coming from a founding father. I believe the same system was developed in the UK and is still in place there.

It's much easier to dominate and control a two party system than a multi-party system. How many non-millionaires are in the house/senate? 70% of MPs in the UK went to Oxford.



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