What can we do to stop the NWO?

Ok, I have the idea that most people on this forum believe that the NWO is in progress, is already here, etc? Most go into details about how the secretive cabal has been planning decades ahead and how their plans now are close to completion. I myself have the same feeling. Even more, I can see it happening and feel frustrated of how little one can do.

Understanding is good, action is better. But what action?! Surely spreading the word is a positive thing, but I doubt it is enough.I am tired of peoplewho say that they've opened the eyes of N number of people. So what? Are those people more than the remaining number of sheep? Or are they powerful enough that they can do something substantial? Moreover, we are still (and will remain in the foresseable future) in the minority. Heck,most people still believe everything the MSM tells them and keep on their daily lives. The majority of people have the impression that the system is probably unfair now, but maybe that is the best possible? My question is: can we really do anything to change the course of events? I mean: something that can really force a positive change, something concrete enough to be acted upon?

I welcome any idea, any plan, anything...Even if it is far-fetched,long shot, or mundane, please post it.

Nothing. There is nothing you can do. And frankly didn't the N.W.O. win already ?

Please don't take this the wrong way as I don't like anything New World Order is supposed to stand for. But just look at the opposition to the N.W.O. faces, it's a joke.

You have bunch of different groups that have all these different theory's on the N.W.O. that would rather argue among them selves as to who's theory is the right one, instead of coming together to become a formidable force.

Then there are the type of Christan's that would rather sit on there butts hoping that Jesus will fix all there problems instead of getting off said butts and doing some work to make the world a better place.

And also far as I see it not matter who wins, I lose no matter what.

I have greatly damaged relations with some friends and family in trying to bring about an awareness to the NWO. They just want to bury their heads in the sand. You are right about your assessment of some Christians. They believe that you can't stop it. I have faith, but I also believe it is my duty to fight the NWO. All we can do is get right with God, educate and prepare ourselves and our families, and do the best we can. I intend to buy supplies and learn how to live off the land. I'll do what I can to help Ron Paul get elected. If we make it until then without the Constitution being suspended, and he does get in, then things will be looking up for us. I still have hope.

Originally by Jgruh4e
What can we do to stop the NWO?

first, accept that the 'Bilderberger Group', which incidently is doing their
annual conclave at a 5 Star Posh setting in Turkey (31May-3June) right now...
the 'Bilderberger' is the top of the pyramid which makes up the NWO.
and there are a few, select elites who are permanent members, since the
Group began in ?1954? (not really certain of the year)

Originally posted by Jgruh4e

My question is: can we really do anything to change the course of events?

there's two methods of 'doing something', one is to publicize the
topics these elites discuss & address as a concern, & what the
insiders/movers/shakers are going to implement, so as to direct the course of life for the masses of the working public...

i've read that some of the items on the Bildergerger Agenda
will be;
Iraq,
control of the diminishing hydrocarbon reserves,
EU v. Russia issues,
2008 oil caps between $105-150 per bbl,
Iran,
also proceeding with a 'New Dark Age' involving regional
chaos & the rising Islamic fundamentalism,
and high on the list is the
Revamping (destruction) of the world's present economic base.


source:
http:www.opednews.com/articles/6/opedne_kent_wel_070602_meet_the_bilderberge.htm
"Meet the Bilderbergers - our invisible government' ~ 7 pages~



the second option, is what the rise of Islamic fundamentalism is doing,
they are fighting the NWO, particularly the western Anglo-American powers...
the Bilderberger>NWO>economic/political/military/ machine, et al,
is being mortally attacked for the purpose of replacing the world's status-Quo with Sharia Law as the new universal standard

Thank you very much for the replies. I have to say that I agree with almost everything said:

Originally posted by DarkMile77
Nothing...

You have bunch of different groups that have all these different theory's on the N.W.O. that would rather argue among them selves as to who's theory is the right one, instead of coming together to become a formidable force.
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And also far as I see it not matter who wins, I lose no matter what.

My sentiments exactly. However, I do think that in no matter how bad the siuation is, there is always something that can be done to improve it. Just need to find out what...

Originally posted by Kelldor
I have greatly damaged relations with some friends and family in trying to bring about an awareness to the NWO. They just want to bury their heads in the sand.

Same here. That is what I mean that the majority will never be able to comrehend the truth even if it is right in their faces (which it is not considering the MSM propaganda). It kind of serves as a defence mechanism to protect their way of understanding the world. Most people can not allow (on an unconscious level) to have their understanding of the world drastically changed as it would cause them deep stress at the very least.

St Udio,

I totally agree with your post. And yes, I also agree that the 'Bilderberger Group' is at the top of the pyramid. I have listened to the Alex Jones' show in the last few days and he is constantly talking about it. You also give two options for 'doing smth', the first of which is "publicizing the issues". I agree that this seems to be the only thing we could do, but will it ever be enough? The MSM is controlled and unfortunately the majority of people take their news and form their opinions based on the daily propaganda they are fed from the TV. And I also agree,that people like Chavez and Ahmadinejad are the ones really "fighting" the NWO right now. For that only, I respect them. What about Putin though? Do you think he is part of the conspiracy? i remember when he came in power he dealt a significant blow to the Illuminati oligarchs in Russia (who controlled its energy resources) such as Berezovski and Hadarkovski. If Putin is not part of the conspiracy, then we might consider him the most powerful enemy of the NWO...

And once again, while I don't see any solution right now, I still remain hopeful. On the other hand, I can't rest my hopes on some religious belief that will save the world. While I believe in the higher power way above the material world, I do not expect any divine intervention. Would be too easy, wouldn't it? There must be some effective way to stop NWO. just we need to have some sort of plan and have the courage to act upon it....

educate prepare and unite
as a christian i believe we can still win but it will be hard

I've just joined ATS and registered specifically to respond to this thread of pessimism regarding our power in stopping the NWO. Someone stated that just spreading information was useless, and another person said we've already lost. From my standpoint, people as knowledgable about the NWO as all of you should be empowered, energetic, and positive. I'm more encouraged by NWO deniers than by those who know but slump around with this defeatist attitude. The sheeple are awakening, there is activism on multiple fronts, soldiers are refusing orders, congressmen and women are stepping up and speaking out, documentaries are being produced and spread at the speed of light, the NWO is shaking in their Bilderbergs, and the snowball effect of the truth is a beautiful thing to watch. I don't know where you're getting your negative information, but I recommend looking elsewhere for inspiration, because it's out there, it's real, the counter-offensive is the biggest it's ever been and grows daily.

Also, a lot of people mentioned being ostracised from family and friends due to their superior knowledge of what's happening in the world. I've experienced something like this in the past, but since realized it was my own fault in the way I delivered the information. Years ago I alienated my family with my advance knowledge of 9/11 by presenting it with negative energy and anger. No one wants to hear that. The information must be spread in a loving and positive manner. My dad has gone from denying everything for 5 years and not talking to me for a while to a complete turn-around where he is awakening people of his generation every day. I sat down with him calmly and watched Loose Change, then 9/11 Mysteries, then Terrorstorm, then more Alex Jones, then David Icke and so on and so forth and we discussed everything as he slowly woke up. There was plenty of resistence at first, but I met that with understanding and slow nudges, not "in your face, I know what I'm talking about" tactics.

Now my dad has a mass email list of all employees at his office who keep in regular contact with him and me as we continue to spread the word to our friends, families, friend's families, familes' friends and so on. I talk to people waking up everyday that I've never met who thank me and tell me stories about themselves and the people around them. So don't be discouraged anyone. Keep explaining everything to your loved ones and do so with positivity, not with a "we've already lost" attitude. And be confident that simply spreading the info IS ENOUGH to stop them. Once NWO opposition is as popular as American Idol (and it's quickly getting there) they won't be able to fool anyone or claim any power over us. We outnumber them about 6 billion to 10,000.

Vote for somebody you believe is of good heart, for example Ron Paul.

We can only lose if we allow them to progress to a point where they have total control of transportation, communications, food, and weaponry. They require total control because there are so many of us (proletarians) and so few of them (bourgeois). Up until recently the implementation of control has been very gradual, it is speeding up thanks to their war of terror. Resistance is growing, but I fear it is not fast enough. I have no idea if the conflict will be cold or hot and who will fire the first shot. But if change does not occur, people like us will not tolerate fascism and will react with equal force. So I believe if we don't perform some type of media coup soon, violence will most certainly break out in the future. It's gloomy.

I agree with many of the posters, the NWO's power is based largely on secrecy, and control of the money system..... educate everyone about the truth, and take back control of the money system, and you take power away from NWO.

Firstly, thanks to Jgruh4e for starting this discussion

Frankly, given their largest source of control is money supply, and we cant do a hell of a lot about that...We need to look at a source of control they currently have which is potentially prone to disruption and whathaveyou...

Personally, I see the Internet as the way to do this....Whether its thru educating folks to what is going to go down, to actually disrupting their communications thru this medium, its all up for grabs

Peace folks and dont ever lose heart

EDIT - for lousy spelling


[edit on 9-6-2007 by Rilence]

Know the purpose of the song of moses in the bible, the elect are the only one who have a chance at this, and if they dont let God speak throught them they will not inherit heaven. this is biblical. i think it eludes to people in certain times and places, that are able to expose to the nations the antichrist system of elitist fascism is being structured they blindly or ignorantly follow, insulting along the way people like me for instance, who knows enough not to be that way.

It's already over. Sorry. It's not like you're going to get control of the money supply any time soon. It's not like you can 'take over' the transportation system. In the New World Order not even countries are in charge of what they can do. They are assigned tasks to complete, and if they do not conform, they are punished--sometimes mildly, sometimes severely. Hiding a few guns in your closets is nothing. Stashing a few rocket launchers in a barn in your hideout is nothing. Even banding together with your brothers in Waco is nothing. If you REALLY DO become an irritant, you'll be taken out. The evidence is clear.

Oh, some of you will have the illusion of success. Do you think that's not intentional? Look at Bob Lazar, for example. Got famous for awhile, didn't he? Lecture circuit, interviews, lots of cool information on the bad alien anti-gravity drives. But now he hides behind a password controlled web site in disgrace. He got a little too uppity, so the NWO marginalized him to the point of inactivity. Hey, but he's still alive. Because he gave out the information the NWO wanted him to. In other words, he "completed his assignment" so he was rewarded, kind of.

It's the same with you guys, wringing your hands, casting about, wondering what to do, waiting for Jesus, counting your little bullets. That's just what you are supposed to do. While you are doing all that, you'll get a job. You'll work 40 hours a week. You'll work for fifty years. You will breed. You'll have your little affairs. You will conform to the 'laws of the land.' You'll subject yourself to observation. You will 'contribute' to the greater good. You'll do that whether you like it or not. You will drink the Kool-Aid. That's your assignment.

[edit on 6/21/2007 by schuyler]

Look, NWO is normal process for advanced civilization. World unites, becomes more social and theocracy goes to hell. It's not feudal order, it's not slavery and it won't be run by corporate elite. Today it may seem so, but things will change.

Also keep in mind a lot of conspiracy sites are linked to fundamentalist groups who see Satan himself in NWO and they will of course write only bad stuff about it. OWG had many positive elements, so why do they write only bad about it? It threatens them, but not you, so -- relax.

Why can't Solid Snake be real. Anyway how many people here who actually want to try fight off the NWO are training for it or doing something I mean sometimes you have to run away from a fight will you have the fitness to run away maybe but will you have the survival skills to keep yourself alive. Say you hide out in a forest you'll need survival skills, fitness, sharp instincts (No offence to the deaf but hearing would be nessecary) and probably a whole load of other things. I train to make myself fitter and stronger but I'm still not fit enough and even if I did get away unless I ate dirt or a raw rabbit I'd die, I have no survival skills nor anyone to teach them to me, I've never fired a gun that won't help and about the food thing after growing up in a house where I can eat what I want, I've become a picky person, I won't eat something if I don't like the look of it (yes I know I'm stupid but it's the way I am) so how would I eat in the wilderness if I find it hard to eat in other peoples houses. Did anyone else think of anything like that.

Originally posted by schuyler
It's already over. Sorry. It's not like you're going to get control of the money supply any time soon. It's not like you can 'take over' the transportation system. In the New World Order not even countries are in charge of what they can do. They are assigned tasks to complete, and if they do not conform, they are punished--sometimes mildly, sometimes severely. Hiding a few guns in your closets is nothing. Stashing a few rocket launchers in a barn in your hideout is nothing. Even banding together with your brothers in Waco is nothing. If you REALLY DO become an irritant, you'll be taken out. The evidence is clear.

I completely disagree. Your view as bolded in the above paragraph completely ignores the social and economic issues that drive a populace of any given country.

Countries taht strive for revolutionary change dont do so because some jackoff in the (insert agency here) tells them too, they do it because they have real grevences about their lives and whats happenning to them.

Revolutions arent crushed because some jackoff in the (insert agency here) wants it to be done, they're crushed because the existing social order (and their very lifestyle) is threatenned.

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

I completely disagree. Your view as bolded in the above paragraph completely ignores the social and economic issues that drive a populace of any given country.

Still living the illusion of self-determination, I see. Your viewpoint, no matter what it is, does not count in the New World Order. You are assigned a role that you will play. The NWO isn't some jerk from an alphabet agency telling an entire country what to do. That's a leap on your part. The Illuminati and the Masonic Order have had plans in place for centuries. A mere 'people's revolution' that kills millions and lasts for less than a century is immaterial to these plans. It's just part of the movie. The trap is not just set; it's sprung.

And places like this? Flypaper to catch those who think they've found a place to speak out. Your IP Address has been recorded. Thank you. Now get on with your lives.

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Originally posted by schuyler
Still living the illusion of self-determination, I see. Your viewpoint, no matter what it is, does not count in the New World Order. You are assigned a role that you will play.

How exactly is it that the leaders of this NWO are so omnisencient that they have planned out every contingency to every possible situation that could arise?

The NWO isn't some jerk from an alphabet agency telling an entire country what to do. That's a leap on your part.

I dont think i made an assumption. This is what you said:

In the New World Order not even countries are in charge of what they can do. They are assigned tasks to complete, and if they do not conform, they are punished--sometimes mildly, sometimes severely.

How is that different from telling a country what to do?

I have a feeling I'll get in trouble for this post.

If you really believe in the N.W.O. and you really believe they need to be be stopped. Then there is only one answer.

Become a terrorist. ( If you don't like the word " terrorist " then you can call your sellf a freedom fighter. There the same thing. )

Voting for Ron Paul won't help. And trying to inform the masses is pointless.

I'm sure the will be some anger at what I just wrote. But just think about it. ( And I mean really think about it, take a day with the idea then make a comment. )

If the N.W.O. is real, then every member is guilty on some level of mass murder and of being deceptive to the population of the world.

It's a real simple concept. Fight fire with fire. Harsh words and anonymous post on a website do not make the world a better place.

Originally posted by DarkMile77
I have a feeling I'll get in trouble for this post.

If you really believe in the N.W.O. and you really believe they need to be be stopped. Then there is only one answer.

Become a terrorist. ( If you don't like the word " terrorist " then you can call your sellf a freedom fighter. There the same thing. )

Voting for Ron Paul won't help. And trying to inform the masses is pointless.

If there was a one world military and a world government, there would be no more sectorial wars, it would all be between the general population and the elite controlers. Every member or group of the general population would be, as you said be called, "terrorists" by the media and the controling elite. And all members of the establishment, though being a vast minority, would propagate themselves and their agendas as the world's mindset, the "progress" of world government.

Voting for Ron Paul will help and he helps open minds everyday to the silent oppression people have been under on many fronts. And second, trying to inform the masses is NOT pointless. In fact it's the only thing that needs to be done. Once the masses are informed, a small group of bankers and politicians can no longer control us. Once everyone knows and understands the New World Order, it dies on its ass and something better comes from the people, not from supposed "elites."