HAARP could be useful in removing CO2 from the atmosphere.

www.biochem.szote.u-szeged.hu...

Created by HAARP. It's my belief.

www.virtuallystrange.net...

This is a tool that creates Ionization. Weakens magnetosphere. Boils atmosphere. So how can it help?

Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
You quoted your reason for the demolition of wardenclyffe.

It's your quote. I just pointed out the reason for it being demolished.

Can you quote my reason why the military tore it down? Yes you can. The submarines? ..

The military didn't tear it down - the new owners did after the foreclosure.

However, let's address your point - and again from YOUR cite, the exact words are:

"The United States government in 1917 may have aided the destruction of the Wardenclyffe Tower, ostensibly because it could provide a navigation landmark for German submarines."

Meaning that if a German sub surfaced and saw Wardenclyffe, they would know where they were. Remember, it's 1917 - no inertial navigation, no GPS. And that's it. So, please, tell me how that has any bearing on anything in the thread - you drop it in as if it has some meaning one way or another, but damn if I can see it.

I guess we all have to accept your version of story based on your studies, and the evidence presented here is unnacceptable.....Since YOU say so. Sure.

What evidence have you presented? That you think MRI machines are made by "Tesla" and you didn't know it was the magnet rating? That mirrors bounce electricity?

And that would be that physics says so, I didn't make up specific heat, I just refuted you with it.

Tom you forgot that you admitted the ERP is enough to increase the cubic feet of water.

Increase the cubic feet of water? What?

No, I didn't forget anything, the problem is that you didn't understand it, even when I simplified it as far as I could.

You seem ignorant about us being the "serPENT" race, and fail to see the symbology and symmetry in crop circles. You do not know of the radiation detected on the "bent" stalks. They are not bent at all, but in fact burned.

I'm sure your irregular capitalization of "serpent" is meant to prove some deep symbolic mystery. I'm also aware that the same experts have also detected "burning" and "radiation" when the circles were man made. Thus making the entire issue rather moot as far as I'm concerned.

"Golden Ratio" 1.618" (Divine Proportion) is in these designs which appear overnight. These designs require a computer to draw it out and then use HAARP to tattoo the earth.

Or some boards and ropes. HAARP couldn't focus that tight if it wanted to, which I could show you with math but given that you couldn't deal with specific heat, you're not going to be able to cope with wavelength based limits of resolution by a long shot. Not to mention that pesky inverse square law. Or the fact that a lot of the crop circles aren't even in this hemisphere. I guess that in your world little things like "line of sight" won't be mattering either.

There's also the little things like - why would anyone build a facility that costs that much...just for making crop circles?

Evidence you want? It's my theory!! Keep it in mind and admit how valid it is.

I think I've made several comments on my assessment of its validity.

It's no use to disagree here. The designs show measurements that involve the fibonacci sequence. Impossible to draw it, nevermind on a cornfield.

Your assessments of what can be drawn or not continue to amaze me. You should go poke around artworks done in the style known as "photorealism".

These are all artworks, hand rendered without computers or cameras:

Wine bottles, a building facade, , a ferry, "Frank"

I guarantee you that there are artists that can render anything you'd like.

Increase the cubic feet of water? What?

I cut out the sentence to rewrite it and left out Temperature. The Cubic feet of water does increase in temperture when the HAARP frequency comes in contact.
You admitted this. Therefore, the accumulation of constant Radio and Microwaves heating this water will in fact cause the thermal increase.

The whole point is that this system is responsible for global warming and this thread claims that it helps. I'm also including crop circles here to explain how precise it is. So an ERP of 1.7GW focused is capable of heating any mass over prolonged contact.

Electro magnetic smog is the reason why Cancer is up 80%. The physical mutations happening to animals. The mental mutations happening to humans. People are sufferring nervous breakdowns now with increasing volume. I've worked in over a dozen Mental Health Hospitals from 2000-2005. NYC used to have just a few. Now every general hospital has a psychiatric unit in it. The Human race is scarred from birth on. Overconsuption, seeking convenience has disrupted natures ebb and flow. Most of this is from an unnatural biosphere and it does include increased Co2 which helps aid cellular degradation. But the main reason is polar shifts. These polar shifts will be at their highest point soon, and it's in due part to human cause. The Sun is not tripling its frequency of solar flares overnight.

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[edit on 6/14/2007 by StreetCorner Philosopher]

Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
I cut out the sentence to rewrite it and left out Temperature. The Cubic feet of water does increase in temperture when the HAARP frequency comes in contact.
You admitted this. Therefore, the accumulation of constant Radio and Microwaves heating this water will in fact cause the thermal increase.

One, HAARP doesn't put out microwaves. Two, as I said, sure ANYTHING heats water - if you dip your toe in the ocean, you heated it. It isn't detectable, and won't affect anything. But theoretically, it was heated.

If you put all the electrical generation capacity of the entire world, much less that for the IRI, for the entire year into the ocean, you will heat it. It will be undetectable, and it won't change anything, but theoretically, it was heated.

The point I was making is that a heat increase of 0.027C for a year's output is not an increase that can make a difference. And that was for a cubic kilometer of water. Of which there are over a billion more just like it in the ocean. So the temperature increase would be more like 0.000000000027 degrees C. And that's only if you ignore all the ways that heat will be dissipated. And only if you ignore all the other losses and just run the IRI's diesels into the ocean. It is not a difference that is a difference. I'm truly sorry you can't see that, somehow the point seems to be escaping you.

I really can't find a way to make it simpler. Any public utility power plant puts more energy into the world as heat than HAARP. Any one. 3.6MW is less than 5,000 HP. One hundred cars on the highway at 70MPH with the AC running probably put as much heat into the world as HAARP. You have no concept of scale.

The whole point is that this system is responsible for global warming and this thread claims that it helps.

No, it's not responsible for global warming. The power levels are trivial. You seem to have no grasp on math so it's escaping you. I wish I could put it in terms you could understand. But I can't draw cartoons. That might work but I'm not sure.

I'm also including crop circles here to explain how precise it is.

At the frequency that HAARP operates, it is not capable of a focus small enough to do that. Even if it could reach England. Even if you waved your hands and abolished the physics of electromagnetism and got rid of that pesky inverse square falloff of power with distance issue.

So an ERP of 1.7GW focused is capable of heating any mass over prolonged contact.

ERP *implies* the focus. The ERP would equal the total output power if the antenna had no focus. ERP is not a real power. It is antenna gain and total output power combined. You are using terms you don't understand.

I've worked in over a dozen Mental Health Hospitals from 2000-2005.

You know, I just knew that was going to show up here sooner or later.

Your name isn't Ken is it?

But the main reason is polar shifts. These polar shifts will be at their highest point soon, and it's in due part to human cause.

Yes, yes, I've heard this. Soon, we'll have to drill into the mantle with the Giant Mole Machine and plant some nuclear bombs to make sure the core spins properly.

The Sun is not tripling its frequency of solar flares overnight.

Ok...you got me on this one.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You must understand that this system is designed to disrupt natural ebb and flow. The CO2 removal explained in this thread is whitewash.

Laughing my butt off over here, thanks for the humor. Remove all the CO2 from the atmosphere, that is some funny stuff you should take that show on the road, just don't take no plants with ya. Global warming is a joke a hoax and a scam to steal your property for the good of the earth. Wake up people for petes sake they wrote this stuff down and told us they were going to make up global warming. They held meetings about the global warming scam and how to use it to steal PRIVATE PROPERTY. You know that thing the socialist, communists, and fascists hate. And by God if they aren't selling it too, I guess ole P.T. wasn't wrong...

www.niburu.nl...?articleID=16354

Lets put aside the HAARP debate a little. Read this article and take it for what it is. There are similair articles everywhere, climate control and HAARP as the culprit. If your a skeptic of this, please offer your explaination on what or who is putting this stuff out. Some say this is a Galactic Federation site, some say its vatican, list goes on and on.

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I tried your link, but it says "the article with this number is gone".

Anyway, lots of people with crazy notions put up lots of websites, take www.timecube.com as an example, and few things inspire the true crazy like HAARP.

It probably doesn't help that you have to have an engineering or physics degree to understand it clearly. So, what's mysterious must be evil. I have often thought that about organic chemistry.

Your degree in physics is noted, and if you are prejudiced against artists, don't speak or reply back to them. I theorize alot. You do not. We are different

I understand you are educated and you love to boast about it. But I believe that this information I am getting about HAARP is being given to me telepathically somehow. I have information on the net, and you say its disinfo. Fine, but I beleieved this stuff almost a year ago before I realized HAARP existed. I knew HAARP existed, before I even knew HAARP existed! I didnt envision it as it is now, with specific detail of it's operation, but I knew that a climate control system was out there.

Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
Your degree in physics is noted, and if you are prejudiced against artists, don't speak or reply back to them. I theorize alot. You do not. We are different

You know, if we were debating the relative merits of pointillism as an aspect of divisionism, or maybe how van Gogh used the scumble and glaze techniques to impart a feeling of life and motion into his pictures, it would be an argument about art.

But if you ask something about radio wave propagation, it's one of those science based subjects that lends itself to more objective commentary.

To expand on my comment: if you didn't have any understanding about radio or EM it would not only seem mysterious, but ANYTHING could be ascribed to it, and it ends up being a sort of tabula rasa for people to project their anxieties on. Thus do you get wacky websites spelling out detailed instructions on constructing "holy hand grenades" to ward off evil mind beams from cell towers. Radio has always had this issue - if I recall correctly, Fessenden was attacked during one of his first voice transmissions by a farmer who was convinced he was sending out mind beams.

But I believe that this information I am getting about HAARP is being given to me telepathically somehow. I have information on the net, and you say its disinfo. Fine, but I beleieved this stuff almost a year ago before I realized HAARP existed. I knew HAARP existed, before I even knew HAARP existed! I didnt envision it as it is now, with specific detail of it's operation, but I knew that a climate control system was out there.

In the immortal words of John Lennon, "More I cannot say...what more could I say?"