The Threat of Nukes on American Soil?

I don't know if a lot of people realize this but..

I just recalculated my stats from death tolls in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, and over the past 50 years, the American military has brutally killed (with bombs, napalm, and guns) 6,600,000 people across the world. To put that in perspective, it's roughly equal to the amount of Jews that died in the Holocaust and 3 times the number of Cambodians slain in the Cambodian genocide (some modern historians even think that the U.S is responsible for the majority of the Cambodian genocide deaths with secret bombings and attributed them to Pol Pot to save face but that's a discussion for another day).

70,000 people died in Hiroshima.

So, let's pretend that Al-Queda, or whatever boogie-man group of the day- actually let's say deer, since deer kill more, and are thus more deadly, Americans than terrorists do (7500 people over the past 50 years, 2.5 times more than terrorists!)- let's pretend a rogue group of dangerous deer somehow manage to detonate a nuclear weapon in every major U.S city. So, let's count 20 cities. 70,000 times 20 = 1,400,000. An incredibly unlikely series of co-ordinated nuclear attacks on 20 major U.S cities would still mean that the U.S has killed about 6 times more people over the past 50 years than deer have killed us.

What I'm trying to say is, deer are more deadly than terrorists, America has killed with conventional weapons the past 60 years the equivalent of over 100 nuclear strikes on major cities, terrorism is not a big threat, and even if terrorists somehow manage to bomb every single major U.S city then we will still be more evil than them.

[edit on 6/1/07 by RedDragon]

Using your warped logic, we can also say that since car accidents kill more than 1,000,000 worldwide each year, that car manufacturers are more deadly than US military intervention.

Yet somehow I don't see you vilifying Toyota & Volkswagen as being "evil". No, of course not, that doesn't fit your agenda. So lets vilify the US

terrorism is not a big threat, and even if terrorists somehow manage to bomb every single major U.S city then we will still be more evil than them.

You need a reality check! Terrorist blow up busses, cars, and markets full of civilians on a daily basis. That is a big threat to humanity. Also in case you were sleeping on Sept 11th that too was a big threat.
Wake up and stop spewing anti American rhetoric and learn the facts.

[edit on 1-6-2007 by Digital_Reality]

Originally posted by RedDragon
I just recalculated my stats from death tolls ...

Go back to school and learn how to calculate. :shk:
Oh .. and in addition to math class, take some history as well.

This is just anti-American rhetoric with a biased agenda.
It isn't even 'good' rhetoric that could even be half way believable.

Originally posted by Reality Hurts
Using your warped logic, we can also say that since car accidents kill more than 1,000,000 worldwide each year, that car manufacturers are more deadly than US military intervention.

Yet somehow I don't see you vilifying Toyota & Volkswagen as being "evil". No, of course not, that doesn't fit your agenda. So lets vilify the US

Cars kill more people than terrorists but Americans still kill more people than cars.

EDIT: Combine all the fatalities from car crashes in America over the past 50 years, all the Americans killed by terrorists over the past 50 years, the amount of people killed by deer over the past 50 years (2.5 times the amount killed by terrorists!), and the fatalities that would result from 20 nuclear strikes on every major U.S city and the U.S has still killed about 1.5 million more people- roughly the amount of another nuclear holocaust.



[edit on 6/1/07 by RedDragon]

[edit on 6/1/07 by RedDragon]

Originally posted by RedDragon
Cars kill more people than terrorists but Americans still kill more people than cars.

Not according to....you.

You put up a number of 6.6 million deaths, starting with Korea and going until the present day. Thats roughly 50 years, or 132,000 deaths per year that you claim the US is responsible for. Now compare that to the 1,000,000 deaths per year in car accidents.

Now follow me closely here....1,000,000 is more than 132,000. In fact, its 7.5 times more than the US causes.

So, using only YOUR facts and YOUR logic, you've already debunked yourself.

Originally posted by Reality Hurts

Originally posted by RedDragon
Cars kill more people than terrorists but Americans still kill more people than cars.

Not according to....you.

You put up a number of 6.6 million deaths, starting with Korea and going until the present day. Thats roughly 50 years, or 132,000 deaths per year that you claim the US is responsible for. Now compare that to the 1,000,000 deaths per year in car accidents.

Now follow me closely here....1,000,000 is more than 132,000. In fact, its 7.5 times more than the US causes.

So, using only YOUR facts and YOUR logic, you've already debunked yourself.

That would be true.. if 1,000,000 people died annually in U.S automobile accidents. That would mean that about, well let's just say an incredibly large amount of people would be dead over the past 50 years. That's about 25 times bigger than the real number though.

The number actually starts out pretty small 50 years ago, and gradually increases to about 40,000 per year over the past 5-10 years. Just for ease of calculations though, I considered 60,000 people/ year in my calculations which was actually a gross over-estimate.

Also, I edited my last post. Check out what I added there.

[edit on 6/1/07 by RedDragon]

[edit on 6/1/07 by RedDragon]

Originally posted by RedDragon
That would be true.. if 1,000,000 people died annually in U.S automobile accidents.

Originally posted by RedDragon
Combine all the fatalities from car crashes in America ...

You're changing the parameters and not reflecting my comparison:

Originally posted by Reality Hurts
...car accidents kill more than 1,000,000 worldwide each year...

Read more carefully before you start flinging numbers out there. By the way, did you know that more people are killed by the US each year than die of natural causes in Rhode Island???? MY GOD!!!

If you're comparing the US inflicted casualties abroad, you have to accept the worldwide casualty rate from car accidents.





[edit on 1-6-2007 by Reality Hurts]