KGB Agent Fingers MI6

Originally posted by Long Lance
the Polonium episode was absolutely ridiculous, whoever pulled that stunt ought to have their egos examined. who knows, these people might as well be Russians, but other than Western® Media™ the PR campaigns, there's next to nothing linking Moscow to this assasination, it's all nonsential assumptions and mostly slander.

So the radioactive trail left by the ex-Spy all around London (everywhere he went) and all the way back to Moscow is a lie?

There bloody well was a Russian involved, that you cannot deny.

Also, if the UK did it, where would WE get Po 210 from? As far as I can ascertain, the only producers of Po 210 are...

Drum roll please....

Yes, you got it......Russia.

I've been following this Litvinenko business for a while now (before his death)

Litvinenko was a "rogue agent", apparently he dealt with just about all important names in Intel community, Russian opposition and Illegal arms trade. I assume that Lugovoi is telling the truth that Litvinenko had connections to Brittish Intel, as he allso had contacts some alleged CIA front men.

Litvinenko was trading intel for money and power, so there are countless suspects that might have wanted him dead. If you look at this only from motive viewpoint the most likely suspects are Kremlin, Italian Mafia and Brittish/american intelligence agencies.

If the murder is analysed from the action viewpoint it starts look a lot different. Using easily tracked polonium, that is carelessly transported across europe and then issued quantities that only kill one slowly, isn't exactly the MO of KGB/FSB. Old KGB specialised on using fast killing poisons and todays FSB has been disposing the dissidents with street gang style hits.

In addition there is no need to use Lugovoi, a high profile ex-KGB man, since they (Kremlin) have rotating sleeper cells waiting in most of the worlds countries. You would be amazed to see how many university students that come from CIS have same fingerprints as old Speznaz soldiers...

The Italians can be left out of the picture by just the price of the poison that would have been way over their head.

This leaves us with someone that wants Litvinenko dead and the trail to lead to Moscow... That doesn't shut out the possibility of Lugovois participation as he was a freelancer at the time...

I had my own theory about the whoile thing, which was rather well researched and worked chronologically, but it seems it wasn't that popular as the KGB assasination idea so the thread dropped off the radar.

Was Victor Litvinenko a Terrorist?

I thought your post summed up quite nicely and could be a possibilty.

With that in mind, could the rebels inccur the cost of using it with the price tag being so high? Are they well funded or could someone else be pulling THEIR strings?

I still think the obvious reason for the assasination was to silence him.

Then comes who would benefit the most in doing so, and with that I mean from every angle ( collateral damage, who the evidence points too, etc. )

If you compare this scenario to other conspiracies, why would this situation be any different?

Originally posted by stumason

So the radioactive trail left by the ex-Spy all around London (everywhere he went) and all the way back to Moscow is a lie?

There bloody well was a Russian involved, that you cannot deny.

Also, if the UK did it, where would WE get Po 210 from? As far as I can ascertain, the only producers of Po 210 are...

Drum roll please....

Yes, you got it......Russia.

where did you get the impression that i accused the UK ? sure, somebody left a Polonium trail to Moscow, but that's the equivalent of finding the alledged perpetrator unconcious with a smoking gun in his hand lieing next to the victim's body. ie. it's simply nonsential. the fact that Po ore only occurs in Russia means that it was mined there, not more not less. this makes them responsible to a certain extent, because they were unable to keep their nuclear material out of the black market.

i don't know what the perps were trying to prove, maybe some kind of show-off, they might as well be Russians, but that doesn't mean Putin did it. the evidence probably wouldn't suffice in a trial.

Originally posted by Long Lance

where did you get the impression that i accused the UK ?

You didn't. but that is the thread topic.

Originally posted by Long Lance

the fact that Po ore only occurs in Russia means that it was mined there, not more not less. this makes them responsible to a certain extent, because they were unable to keep their nuclear material out of the black market.

Po-210 is produced in reactors with a high neutron flux from Uranium. Russia supplies almost all the Po-210 in the world from these reactors.

First off I thought your title was funny...maybe I am just a little frustrated


What would be the motive for the British Intel. to do something like that?

Originally posted by Britguy
What has always puzzled me about this case is the method used. If someone wanted Litvineko dead then why not just shoot him, run him down, toss him in a lake with a rock around his ankles. Do something cheap and simple and hide the body somewhere remote?
The method used, causing a long drawn out demise just doesn't seem plausible, especially considering the cost of the material used. Then there was the neat trail of polonium traces running all the way back to Moscow, like a trail of breadcrumbs. How clumsy is that?

I was waiting for someone to state this! Thought i was the only one..

How convienient that the trail just led back to Moscow.. there are far easier and cleaner ways to kill a person. Radiation poisoning is a real harsh way to kill someone.. and the risks involved just make no sense for Russia to have done this.. why would they be so careless!

Also, notice how the media is just starting to talk about Russia, and how its pointing its missiles at Europe..despite the fact that Putin has been talking about this for awhile, about Bushs missile shield in Europe.

Coincidence?

I am more incliced to believe WE killed him, in an attempt to influence the publics thinking/making Russia appear to be in bad light, once again.. psyop operation anybody?

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
I am more incliced to believe WE killed him, in an attempt to influence the publics thinking/making Russia appear to be in bad light, once again.. psyop operation anybody?

Mmm psyop? No more like false flag mate, we havent shown much ability to control information as we really should or would if what you suggest was the case. Psyops and information warfare is about controlling what the public see and hear and feel effectively and without outside interferrance..

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
First off I thought your title was funny...maybe I am just a little frustrated

LOL, I never read it like that. Shame on you.




I just finally read the caption under your avatar, LMAO.