What If Handing Over Iraq, To Iran, Is The Plan?

What if everything we see happening in Iraq, is not a case of stupidity, failed agendas, or Bush's over-reaching?

What if things are going along according to plan?

Yesterday when Bush said, "We will leave if the Iraqis ask us to." What if that was the signal for Iran to step up their efforts to destabilize the country, put someone in place that will ask us to leave, and the whole purpose for going in, was to see Iran in controll?

Think about it. Even under sanctions, Sadam had managed to skim 20 billion dollars off the top of the "Oil For Food Program", with the help of the UN - Kofi Anan's son, and Marc Rich, the billionaire fugitive Clinton pardoned, and 200+ multinational companies.

But Sadam wasn't sharing the money with his neighbors, or making it easy for the US and it's allies to make money from the country's oil supplies.

In other words, Sadam was simply an impediment to the development of the region.

Iran on the other hand, is very good at managing their oil - their country.

Sure Ahmadinejad is talking trash. But what if Iran isn't even an enemy of ours since the Bushes took over? And they're just acting like we still are, until the deal is set? If Iran really wanted to screw Bush, they would just raise prices, and cut back on oil production.

But everyone on the planet knows Iran is knee deep in Iraq as we speak. And Iran will become nuclear, inspite of what anyone else thinks. But Iran - Persia is one of the oldest civilizations on the face of the earth. 70% of the Iranian people are between the ages of what, 16 - 37 years old and highly educated.

What if the plan all along was to hand over Iraq to Iran. Bush and Cheney - oilmen they are, couldn't just do it in the open, they would have to go through all the BS we have witnessed over the last few years to make it look real, even allow the WTCs to be blown up as an excuse to go in.

Even a democratic majority in the House, and Senate can't stop them, as they promised they would.

Perhaps I'm way off base. I'm sure you'll tell me so. But it takes a truly evil man indeed to stand up before a country and talk about going to war because God is on your side. God/war? Evil doers? it's the old, "One finger pointing at them, three fingers pointing back."

One thing is for certain, George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the Nazis. Most of the Nazis were welcomed here with open arms after the war. Father Bush was the director of the CIA, and if you believe conspirators, involved in the drug trade to raise money for covert operations destabilizing countries. They are top echelon elite, and the elite don't make mistakes.

What looks like a mistake, screw-up, or failure to everyone else, is part of the plan for their ultimate goal of controlling the world.

It's easy to look at this guy George and say, "Naw, he's way to stupid." But the Stock market is up over 13,000, and the wealthy are extremely happy with him, inspite of the war. In fact, they're making more money than ever before, because of the war, and the so-called instability of oil prices.

Since his entire presidency has been all about Iraq, maybe this is the only reason he was given the presidency - to make this deal for the secret elite, who actually run this world - to screw Israel, and reunite the land of Babylon, one more time.

I'm curious to see what others think.



[edit on 25-5-2007 by SatansQue]

I personally think that this theory is highly possible. I mean this world is filled with things we know and don't know about. Who's to say that G.W.B isn't following in his grandfather's footsteps. The N.W.O planned the deal with the nazi's through Prescott Bush and they are doing the same. I'm sure I'll be critized but I have the freedom to believe what I want and choose to believe this.

Originally posted by Destroyed
I personally think that this theory is highly possible. I mean this world is filled with things we know and don't know about. Who's to say that G.W.B isn't following in his grandfather's footsteps. The N.W.O planned the deal with the nazi's through Prescott Bush and they are doing the same. I'm sure I'll be critized but I have the freedom to believe what I want and choose to believe this.

You're right. Didn't his father actually use the term, NWO several times in speaches? And when you consider the Nazi influence in this country... and the amount of land, and oil the new Iran would occupy with Iraq under it's belt, it's pretty damn tempting to make a deal with them.

This is a very solid theory. I wouldnt be surprised if this was the plan all along. Bush isnt stupid, he just seems that way because every action he takes is governed by a higher power. It's just a matter of time before something big happens.

Excellent post my friend!

I've have flirted with that theory to myself a few times and to be honest, it almost makes more sense. What better than throw off the majority of the American/World public and give them these stories about how Iran is our enemy and they are creating havoc and this and that. Granted, there are the negatives of what Iran is doing in Iraq. That's a no brainer. But in this day and age you cannot just say:"Hey, we're gonna invade this country on false pretenses, bomb it to kingdom come, and then we're going to give it back to the same people who took Americans hostage. But don't worry, they're our friends." That just would not work IMHO. I find much relevance in your theory and I hope this thread has a good shelf life. There are many other minds here that would be able to provide excellent input on this theory of yours.

::Applause::

-Droops

You know, I'm ashamed to admit it, but Satansque actually voted for George Bush, and supported the war. In fact, as a card carrying Republican, I was what you might call a fanatic Bush apologist, taking on all comers, and believing that people who even suspected my boy of having any involvement with 911, were out of their friggen' minds.

Now look at me.

Once the connection was made between grandpappa Bush and Hitler, as well as the disinformation policies of this current administration, the screwing of Colin Powell, and a whole host of discrepencies... well, I have actually called most of the people I argued with in the past and apoligised to them for being such a lunk-head; ripped up my voting card, and stopped listening to Rush Limbaugh, and Hanity.

At first I found myself asking, "But WHY would they want to do THAT?"

Then, I re-read your post, and realized you explained that VERY well.

You make an EXCEEDINGLY CONVINCING argument.

Here's a question - yes, Bush has said more than once if/when Iraq says "get out" that we'll "get out," etc.

WHAT exactly does he consider "asking" us to "get out"?

Just the PUPPET government that THEY installed?

To me, in my opinion, the way so many are attacking OUR MEN, it is CLEAR that MANY pf the people ARE saying GET OUT.

Originally posted by rm8471
Here's a question - yes, Bush has said more than once if/when Iraq says "get out" that we'll "get out," etc.

WHAT exactly does he consider "asking" us to "get out"?

Just the PUPPET government that THEY installed?

To me, in my opinion, the way so many are attacking OUR MEN, it is CLEAR that MANY pf the people ARE saying GET OUT.

If you noticed, Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr came out of hiding, demanding that we leave, while holding out the olive branch to all Iraqis, speaking as if he is ready to jump into the political arena, the day after Bush publically says we'll leave if the Iraqis want us out,

"We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It's their government's choice,’’ the president said during a Rose Garden news conference. "If they were to say leave, we would leave."

www.cbsnews.com...

Al-Sadr is counting on al-Maliki's government collapsing soon:

Al-Sadr also believes that Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government may soon collapse under its failure to improve security, services and the economy, al-Sadr's aides say. A political reshuffle would give the Sadrist movement, with its 30 seats in the 275-member parliament, an opportunity to become a major player.

www.azcentral.com...

U.S. troups are sitting ducks right now, because with the political pressure at home, Al-Sadr, the Iranians stepping up the pressure, and the Iraqi people seeing the writing on the wall, our boys are in the middle of a power keg. The only thing safe in Iraq, is the oil under ground.

The tipping point will be this summer. Look for Iran to step up the pressure on U.S. troops, hoping to hasten al-Maliki's demise, and give the Democrats more amunition:

Iran's secret plan for summer offensive to force US out of Iraq

"Iran is secretly forging ties with al-Qaida elements and Sunni Arab militias in Iraq in preparation for a summer showdown with coalition forces intended to tip a wavering US Congress into voting for full military withdrawal, US officials say."

www.guardian.co.uk...

Here is the deffinition of evil folks, Bush and Cheney know what the deal is, and they're gonna let these boys die. The Dems know what the deal is, and they're gonna wait to see how many of our boys die, who are now becoming pawns in a chess match! The more soldiers that die, the more ammo the Dems, Iranians, and al-Sadr have to pressure Bush for a pull out. Then he won't get blamed for what happens next.

And it's beginning to look like that's exactly what Iran, and Bush had planned all along. A devious transition of power from a greedy, insane dictator, to a friend who will controll half of the world's oil supply, and billions of acres of land to build hotels, malls, and infrastructure along the Tigris, the Euphrates, and the Mesopotamia rivers - the home of the proverbial Garden of Eden - the place where the deception of man began. Isn't it ironic?

Have to say, I tip my horny head to these masters of deception.


[edit on 26-5-2007 by SatansQue]

It's a sad, sad, sad fact that we can't do sh..... anything.

These mothers are just gonna keep doin what they are doin and unless you've got an extremely well backed militia behind you there's nothing we can do.

[edit on 27-5-2007 by Krahzeef_Ukhar]

Originally posted by Krahzeef_Ukhar
It's a sad, sad, sad fact that we can't do sh..... anything.

These mothers are just gonna keep doin what they are doin and unless you've got an extremely well backed militia behind you there's nothing we can do.
[edit on 27-5-2007 by Krahzeef_Ukhar]

You know what Krahzeef_Ukhar,

What is truly sad, is that we believe we can't do sh#t! And do you know whos' fault that is? The damn baby boomers!

Think about it. Back in the 60s - 70s, with the hippy movement, demonstrations on college campuses, the fight for Civil Rights, Women's Rights, the demonstrations against Vietnam; all these baby boomers who were cool then, and stood for something, got beat down by the man!

They got beat down so profoundly, that they actually never recovered. They let the MAN win, and then intimidate them into becoming THE MAN!

And then they taught their children about the futility of fighting the MAN cause "He gonna beat you down to the ground, baby, the MAN always wins in the end!" this is what they began pumping up their children's be-hinds. "So, you go to school, and you get yourself a good education, car, and you play by the rules, and you dream about getting yo slice of the American pie, so you can make lots of babies, and be good little upstanding members of society."

So now we got THE MAN so far up our behinds, we getting poked in the brain! Cause we done lost our ever-loving MINDS!

NAAAA... LOOKIE HERE!!!!

Everybody knew that Custer was a few cigarettes short of a pack, but he was in charge, and he's the one that lead them boys to a massacre. You know it's always the crazy leading the innocent into battle.

So our George, is like the other famous, George Armstrong Custer - only our George is no fool. This Iraq War has become a game of chess, and our boys in uniform are the chess peices. Iran moves, we move. Al-Qaeda moves. Hamas moves. Syria moves. They all tastes victory! China moves...? Please! You know the Chineese are in on it. The combined Iran/Iraq oil out-put would amount to what? Half - maybe 60% of the world's oil supply controlled by their friends, the Iranians?

Who's getting F'd? Our soldiers, and the American people. The soldiers, because over 17,000 have been wounded, many with huge chuncks of flesh blown away. Then they have to come back here to a nightmare of recovering in VA hospitals, being treated like pariah, broke, depressed, with a friggin' Purple Cross pinned to his/her hospital gown!
www.democracynow.org.../11/10/1537224

The American people are geeting reamed like a Tranny in a prison block, baby!

Folks we let them send 100 billion to a country that has oil. You mean, our schools couldn't use that money? Along with the other 100 billion we've already spent...Holy Mackerel!!!

I guess our parents taught us well. Cause we just keep on taking it, and taking it. I guess it feels good to get screwed by da MAN!

The Dems said they were going to get us out of the war. Then Bush makes a brilliant move, of apologizing for being a butt-head, and not listening when John Macain, and everybody else on the planet said we needed more troops, so Bush gets up in front of da peoples and he said, "Lookie here dher, peoples, I'ma gonna send in mo forces, so ya needs to gimmie, a little mo time!" Well he might as well been talking like that, cause inside you know he had to be a-laughing.

Here's what needs to happen. The Dems needs to be called the liars that they are. And their feet need to be held under the fire. Satan knows about the fire, baby!

Back in Custers day they didn't have global communications satilites, lap-tops, etc. If they had real-time eyes in the sky Custer could have been warmed.

The game of Chess was invented as way of teaching war strategy. I say it's time to upset the board, game over!

Hey DEM-ASSES, get off your be-hinds ya lying..., stop pussy footing around... "Remember the Bighorn!" and stop George!

[edit on 27-5-2007 by SatansQue]

SatansQue, That's so right. There was a chance to make a difference but the baby boomers weren't really willing to fight. Peaceniks aren't goin to be a challenge to the military complex, no matter how noble the cause.

What we need to do is harness the anger of todays youth.

Originally posted by Krahzeef_Ukhar
SatansQue, That's so right. There was a chance to make a difference but the baby boomers weren't really willing to fight. Peaceniks aren't goin to be a challenge to the military complex, no matter how noble the cause.

What we need to do is harness the anger of todays youth.

What will it take to make us angry enough to do something you wonder? 100 billion goes to Iraq, just like that! You mean we don't need that money here?

Pretty much everyone here is in the bent over position, with hands on ankles.

And George Bush is giving it to us good, and we're taking it!

Our only hope is to stop this war. Cause once they complete the plan, forget-about it. We have no hope of changing a damn thing. Might as well welcome in the NWO with open arms.