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Boeing working on BWB freighter

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posted on Nov, 13 2007 @ 07:25 PM
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Cheapest way to move giant masses of cargo over land?

Next-generation dirigibles.

Using multiple air volumes contained in superstrength, superlight composite materials the new airships can lift masses into the air larger than any cargo ship, and transport them across land and sea at speeds faster than a water-borne vessel can manage, cutting travel time to destination to one-third.

Using new low-cost solar power generation technology, the skin of the craft powers the electric motors running the propellers, moving the ship along at a brisk 45 mph.

Cost of transport would be on the order of 0.2 cents per ton/mile, making them more efficient than any cargo vessel or train.

All we have to do is build them.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by dionysius9
Cheapest way to move giant masses of cargo over land?

Next-generation dirigibles.

Using multiple air volumes contained in superstrength, superlight composite materials the new airships can lift masses into the air larger than any cargo ship, and transport them across land and sea at speeds faster than a water-borne vessel can manage, cutting travel time to destination to one-third.




Correct - they dwarf conventional aircraft in terms of payload - not so sure on the assertion they will carry more than a cargo ship though (unless by ship you mean aircraft?).


But for high priority items needing quick delivery, some conventional aircaft will still be needed.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 07:38 PM
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The only one in development is the ML866.

It would only be good for slow luxury use.
The payload and speed will eliminate it as a good freighter. I have only seen a few article mention that it can carry up to 120,000 lbs. (60 tons)in payload, with a 3,000 range.

An Airbus A380 can carry twice that, and go almost twice the distance at Mach .85.

A large BWB will be able to as much as the A380 with less fuel giving it more range.

It will take the ML866 (going 136 MPH) about 22 hours to make a freight shipment. An aircraft going Mach .85 (561 MPH) can go 3,000 in about 5 1/2 hours with twice the cargo.

This means that the time it will take the ML866 to make one trip with one load an A380 or large BWB could haul twice the payload and make 4 trips. That is 8 times the cargo moved over the same period of time.

It will be a luxury toy for rich people and that is about it.

[edit on 14-11-2007 by MrKnight]



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 07:50 PM
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Will your next generation dirigibles be useing Helium? I hope not. If you think fuel cost is going to go up, be aware of the fact that Helium is in short supply.

Consumers feel helium squeeze



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 09:31 AM
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BWB News Update:

AvioNews from Farnborough - "Bigger BWB 'X-Plane' Planned"



Military Aviation
02:56 pm - Wednesday
AVIONEWS at the “Farnborough International Air Show 2008” (12): bigger BWB “X-plane” planned
Farnborough, United Kingdom - On the tracks of the X-48B
(WAPA) - Boeing and the US Air Force have begun talks over development of a larger, piloted, blended-wing body (BWB) demonstrator that would follow on from the current subscale X-48B Unmanned BWB now flying at Edwards Air Force Base, California.

Company officials say the single-pilot vehicle will have a pressurized cockpit and be multi-engined. Final configuration will depend on definitive research objectives and funding.

Boeing says a piloted BWB would enable more realistic noise and handling performance tests that are difficult, if not impossible, to achieve with the current 21-foot-span X-48B.
(Avionews)



[edit on 16-7-2008 by MrKnight]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 07:15 AM
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Aerospace America article on the X-48B and BWBs in general here *warning pdf*


To summarise.

-No commercial BWB within 20 years at best, Boeing has nothing of the sort on its roadmap.
- For cargo, the BWB is forced to use smaller separate cargo compartments, meaning the large equipment carried in say a C-5 cannot be handled. A definite minus.
- Use of composite materials is best technique yet of combating pressure vessel stress concentrations.
- Boeing reckon they can make the BWB work at up to Mach 0.85 without picking up too much transonic drag.
- X-48B program set to conclude at end 2008... "what happens next is up to NASA and the Air Force".



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:50 AM
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This is the part I love:

"I told you so!"

Update for those who still think that a small blended wing is not possible.

Graham Warwick of Aviation Week - Who Wants to Build a Bigger BWB?




NASA Pushed Blended Wing Body



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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I'll pass on riding in the BWB. I'd like to keep my head on my shoulders when the turbulence hits. Lifting body designs transmit too much energy to the passenger compartment. I'll stick to flexible wing designs of carbon to take the punches so I can enjoy my coffee. All too often engineers overlook ergonomics ion their designs and this is a good example of that lack of detailed analysis. RM







 
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