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Yes, just like that. See, most people have never even Heard of operation Northwoods!
I think we need to create a network of like minded people, and educate ourselves as much as possible.
Originally posted by RavenWolf
The thing is, MOST people think that we are too paranoid, and that there is no conspiricy, simply because it is easier to think that. Most people do not believe in what they cannot see.
The question is... for those of us who know the truth, what are we going to do about it? There comes a time when we can no longer waste time on the ignorent people who think we're a bunch of nuts howling at the moon. There IS a way to start to make changes. It doesn't have to be all death and destruction with no water and no food and no interenet connections. (since we'll rather need that to unite as a group and work for change)
Simply telling people The Truth, as Fox Mulder wanted to do, will change nothing. We have to take an active hand, and not sit back, waiting for a happy ending.
Originally posted by wingman77
A good organization to examine as a potential model for a workable structure is the "Sons of Liberty" circa 1770s. They are the group that had a big role in sparking the American Revolution. They had no real formal structure, anybody who sought to end British rule and was taking action was considered part of the group. These people met up at homes, taverns, and print shops; they called these meeting places liberty poles.
Originally posted by wingman77
All Seeing Eye, that's a great idea. It would be very difficult to accomplish but it is very possible. We don't even need to design a structure, it already exists, you simply follow the Constitution. A few changes could be implemented in the organizing structure to prevent the corruption that exists in the current government.
Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
My main problem with conspiracy theories about 9/11 and the war in Iraq and what not, is a good why. Why would the US govt. want to start a war in afghanistan or Iraq? I mean wouldnt you say that a man, Osama Bin Laden, and a group of radical islamists who feel offended that the Saudis chose the Americans over the Mouljahaldeen to fight back the Iraqis in Gulf War I would have a good motive. AS well as Khalid Shaikh Mohammed who became angry with America after being repeatedly picked on at College. (look what happened at VT, all because a kid grew angry at the students around him)
I mean some of the conspiracy ideas are based on things that happened over 30 years ago. Maybe its coincdence. I mean we're talking about a conspiracy spanning 30 yrs. And what... 5 different administrations. It seems more of trying to explain something because you dont like the history given to you.
I mean it just seems that some of these conspiracies become so intricate as to seem very very fake. Of course now im a brainwashed drone. Cant complain about the NWO then say everyone who dont agree with you is obviously govt controlled.
sorry kinda started to drift
Originally posted by pweagle
Well I’d have to agree with many folks here, that something needs to be done. Whether something will, well I’d be something wouldn‘t it, yeah someday. Most people don’t want to know the true regardless of how many ways you can convince them, they will still deny it. I truly want something to happen. A better and brighter future for everyone; but the truth is its not going to happen shy of a gigantic catastrophe where our so called leaders will be caught red handed. But truth be told they always ware gloves to cover there tracks. How do you persuade people with a truth or path. You’ll always have opposition no matter what the cause and we are anything but united. Who ever has controls of the fundamentals of life are nothing more then cow herders. I’d like to think that I’m not part of the herd but I am, we all are.
But what make us so different from the rest. Our are we simply not cows, but a different species all together.
O.k. Lets say everyone knew the truth and still did nothing about it. I tell you the suicide rate would sky rocket, people would simply lose interest in life its self. Not to many people are on a self proclaimed path of reason and understanding. They simply live to consume and reproduce and thus is the world we live in. I honestly think that many people do know or suspect the truth one way or another but still waddle around like penguins in a think forest of despair, never knowing or questioning the big picture. Yeah you’re a small ant amongst ants but you do matter, everyone does.
I’ve learned this, there are many reasons but only one truth, once you’ve learned this truth you better stand your ground firmly because there’s a wall of debris a billion people wide cascading right around you called the opposition, the oppressors, the controllers with their manipulative skims ready to take you down with all its might. Even though you stand alone know that there are
many others who share the same ideas with you, who are ready to reinforce the righteous cause.
Where are the heroes amongst us who fight for the greater good.
Originally posted by shearder
Ok now I am not going to support what anyone has said here but I will rather post something to respond to the original post of this thread.
Now what the question was that needs to be answered is: “If the truth was known, would anything be done.” My answer – NO! Nothing will be done. And why I say this is very simple; when something happens we all jump up and down and our representatives demand answers. Once they have the answers they basically sit back and think “WHAT NOW” because we have never been in a position do really do anything nor did we ever have the power to do anything. I mean really, if we were given all the facts in black and white which could not be disputed SOMEONE would say, “well that is all lies and is a conspiracy” or “my uncle has a brother who works with this woman whose mother is friends with the head of the CIA who has clearance and he stole this hard drive which had info on and gave it to his aunt’s sister’s cat who pee’d on it and now the truth is gone.” We really are not a world full of people who actually care what is going on if it does not affect us directly. If it affects indirectly we will “live with it” till SOMEONE ELSE fixes it for us. I mean really, it’s as it was said, people are just too busy watching American Idol or seeing what the celebs are up to to even give a second glance after watching the 8 o’clock news. Hell, the world could explode around us and we would still wake up in the morning, get in our car and off to the office we go not really giving a damn that the dude in the car next to us lost a loved one in 9/11 – it just doesn’t matter. So, what would we do? Nothing. And if we tried we would get shot, or worse, interrogated in a hell hole and fed bread and water and / or disposed of and no one would be the wiser because our security forces are the puppets to this corrupt world and the people that run it ON THEIR TERMS and we would have just climbed in our car one day and were never seen or heard of again. AND if we did, somehow, reappear and were to relate our story to others we would be lying and talking the biggest load of BS and it would be “proven” that we had an accident and were in a coma for the last while and people like YOU and I will buy the governments BS because that’s what we are meant to do!!
[edit on 24/5/2007 by shearder]