South pole Antartic WWII check it out

Originally posted by Essan
Why would the Nazis go to the South Pole to build a base? There are thousands of miles of what at the time were virtually unexplored coastline to choose from

Read up on esoteric nazism and you will find all of the reasons they would build a base in the South Pole.

Well a) there's no Nazi base at the South Pole now and b) given the difficulties with supplying the current base there, how did the Nazis manage it during WWII? Let me guess, they used UFOs?

Perhaps your right. No Nazi base now. I was just saying the pole is a very interesting topic. Out of the eye of societies, desolate for humans to hang out on. If I wanted a good safe place to monitor a planets activity or conduct research then this would be the place.

For the Nazi's and the super race I read about I am not sure I by all of it. Contacting an alien race.....maybe.

I think there is more that meets the eye here IMHO.

I think the problem is that people are confusing the South Pole with Antarctica There are millions of square miles in Antarctica where one could build a secret base. The actual South Pole, as well as being awkward to supply, is also the most likely place to be discovered. And being atop a moving glacier doesn't help.

However, no reason why they couldn't have built a base elsewhere in Antarctica.

Erm but the south pole as you know it will have moved since WW2 because of the Earth moving or 'Tilting' on it's axis the actual defined magnetic pole will have wandered due to changes in the earths magentic field currently it's near Antartica also there's two distinct varaitions of what is thought to be the 'Actual' south pole the magnetic one that i've already metioned and the ceremonial one that has to be moved due to climate change every year because the ice caps are melting the pole it's self has to be moved.

The subject of the Nazi bases is very interesting, but i am more preocupated why the images from the poles can't be clear ones, or zoomed. That's something i think we must try to know why.

May I point your attention to this site?

lima.usgs.gov...

This is a site that is hosting some of the clearest shots of the south pole as far
as I've seen. I had previously posted this information here and I thought that
it would be appropiate and useful for this thread as well.

Enjoy,

[edit on 5/21/2007 by Pjpuas]

Originally posted by orthisguyoverhere
The type XXIII elecktroboat Uboat is prime example. That sub would not look out of place in the American Navy of 1970-1980.

You mean th type XXI ,right?

uboat.net...

It was light years ahead of anything in the rest of the world and contributed greatly to the direction the US fleet took after WW2. Wouldn't be scary to see "The return of the Nazis"?

I think years sounds a bit better... if it were light years... they wouldn't use submarines anymore... but I know what you mean.

It wouldn't be scary to see them again... more Hitler/Hanz jokes... and this time it'll be even funnier... Hanz is still learning to uses modern techology... like the microwave oven, or the TV.

Cool documentary, 1 hour long, mentions the battle at the South pole Antartic at the end of the clip. Lots of interesting information on German UFOs, watch it when you have the time.

Secrets of the 3rd reich

video.google.com...

Originally posted by Essan
b) given the difficulties with supplying the current base there, how did the Nazis manage it during WWII? Let me guess, they used UFOs?

It is a fact that the Germans did create conventional flying saucer craft pre-WW2 and during WW2. By conventional, I mean they are quite similar in idea to a helicopter or jet aircraft as we know them. The main difference is that they were saucer shaped, or UFOs as you would call them. I suggest you research Victor Schaumburg and Andreas Epp.

Other ideas for propulsion were also considered, ideas that we would call anti-gravity were also proposed.

Another interesting piece to the puzzle that others have hinted at was Admiral Byrd's Operation Highjump. I suggest you also research this event as well.

Originally posted by SR
Erm but the south pole as you know it will have moved since WW2 because of the Earth moving or 'Tilting' on it's axis the actual defined magnetic pole will have wandered due to changes in the earths magentic field currently it's near Antartica also there's two distinct varaitions of what is thought to be the 'Actual' south pole the magnetic one that i've already metioned and the ceremonial one that has to be moved due to climate change every year because the ice caps are melting the pole it's self has to be moved.

The magnetic south pole will have moved, yes, but we're discussing the geographic south pole - ie Amundsen-Scott. That has not moved although the glacier flowing over the south pole does move at a rate of 33ft per year (hence, they keep having to moved Amundsen-Scott). This has nothing to do with global warming though.

Now, if Hitler had built a base at the South Pole (how? and with what materials?) it would have moved by now and would also have be buried under a considerable amount of snow and ice.

But someone please explain why Hitler would want to built a base at the South Pole? And what on Earth have submarines got to do with it (perhaps they were magic flying submarines?). You do know that the south pole is hundreds of miles from the nearest ice covered shoreline?

maybe no one has submitted anything to google.com

SEARCH FOR HITLER'S ANTARCTIC U.F.O. BASES

www.nizkor.org...

All you need to know about nazis, ufo's and New Swabia

[edit on 22/5/2007 by deaman88]

Of course, how silly of me to forget - Hitler had to build his secret base at the South Pole because that's where the entrance to the Hollow Earth is

Just a shame that pesky 5 mile thick ice sheet went and covered the entrance up .......

SAMISDAT's Antarctic Expedition in Search of Hitler's Flying Saucer Bases
and the South Polar Opening into Inner Earth will be the unique event of a
lifetime. As only a very limited number of people can be accommodated, our
selection standards are of necessity rigorous. The approximate cost per person
on this expedition may be as high as $9,999.00.

Still, less that $10,000 to help find the entrance again? Gotta be a bargain!

As fun as the idea is, that folks built UFOs, and inhabited Antarctica, it’s only a fictional story, similar to the hollow earth stories. If you want, you can go work in Antarctica yourself, and check out what is down there. Raytheon Polar Services run the main US bases that do exist there, and anyone can go work for them if you meet certain physical and psychological requirements. I considered going there myself, as many of the jobs they have I am qualified to perform, so I know a fair amount about the place from researching it.

The Antarctic Sun is their local paper, and in a previous issue, on the anniversary of Byrds expedition, they had an excellent article about Admerial Byrd, his many expeditions, and the bases founded by him and his men. I believe that one of Birds men drove a construction vehicle into a crevasse to his death, and they lost a plane do to its fuel freezing or its running out of gas. I highly recommend searching the site and looking that article up, also take some time to peruse the photo albums of the folks who have worked there already, (here); there are some of the most incredible pictures you will ever see in that archive. The actual “South Pole” which Essan is talking about is a well known feature, and every year it is the location of the famous “Race Around the World”, in which the participants race around the “South Pole” entering each time zone in a circuit around the Pole.

Antarctica is about the closest that you can come, on this earth, to living on another planet. The environment there is extremely harsh and there is no surviving without outside supplies, especially fuel for generators and heat. As I already mentioned, if you go for the Winter Term, you have to pass a very stringent physical and psychological evaluation, this is because it is not possible to get any help to folks down there during the winter term. The hydraulic fluid and fuel in aircraft simply freeze mid-flight and the aircraft crash, plus most of the winter time is “Whiteout” conditions. Jerri Nielsen, is the classic example of how impossible it is to traverse that area for the majority of the year. She ended up trapped there with cancer, and had to treat herself with supplies dropped by aircraft which were flown over by military volunteers. They had to volunteer because it was so dangerous to fly down there at that time of the year. They finally managed to rescue her, again at high risk to the flight crew, toward the end of the season.

When she became increasingly sick and weak, Nielsen agreed to a heroic Air National Guard crew''s offer to fly in a replacement and bring her back to the US for treatment. At the time, it was the coldest and earliest landing of the season at the South Pole, according to Nielsen. The recent rescue of Dr. Ronald S. Shemenski now holds that record.

To believe that anyone is running a base down there without outside support is utterly insane, doubly so if you think they have been doing it since the 40’s. In addition, as Essan mentioned, much of the land is covered in constantly moving glaciers, making it impossible for a base, on the glacier, to have a life span of more then so many years before it is kicked out into the ocean. The reason your not going to find a lot of Satellite pictures of Antarctica is because the folks who make these maps don’t have those kind of satellites down there, they have them around the equatorial regions where there is something useful to map. Many of the things stated by Byrd in these theories are misquotes, or quotes taken out of context, such as this:

A report in the Chilean newspaper El Mercurio of Santiago on 5 March 1947 sheds some possible light onto the strategic importance of polar reconnaissance. The article by Lee van Atta entitled "Admiral Richard E Byrd refers to the Strategic Importance of the Poles" had been sent from "On Board Mount Olympus on the High Seas". It is often misquoted in translation by occult enthusiasts, the usual interpolations in the text being of "flying objects" having the ability "to fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds", but a better translation is:
"Admiral Byrd declared today that it was imperative for the United States to initiate defence measures against the possible invasion of the country by hostile aircraft operating from the polar regions. The Admiral stated, "I don't want to frighten anyone unduly but it is a bitter reality that in the case of a new war the continental United States will be attacked by aircraft flying in from one or both poles." As regards the recently terminated expedition, Byrd said that the most important result of the observations and discoveries made is the current potential effect which they will have on the security of the United States."

This is a true statement, as to this day, our bombers fly polar routes to Russia and back, as do the Russians. Taken out of context though, it sounds as though someone is planning to invade us from the poles.

Anyway, to sum up, here are a few Pictures from Polar Org, just to give you an idea of how well covered that area is, how impossible to survive without support, and how beautiful:



















[edit on 5/22/2007 by defcon5]

Read this and ponder. A unfrozen lake with tempetures of 60 degrees and under ice 2.5 miles thick! Reasearch on this stopped abruptly. People died and another went insane.

www.ufoarea.com...

Interesting to say the least. More needs known about this region I think.

I agree Defcon, we humans may not be able to live on the surface but imagine if we drilled a hole down to the rock, built a city in a cavern and had a vast water supply



I believe we have the tools and the technology to do this and if so aliens would have far greater tools too.



I believe that this theory is possible and would be the ideal base because of it's isolation. Is that being too far fetched?

The two folks that have been evacuated from Antarctica are the one I mentioned above, because she got breast cancer, and Dr. Ronald S. Shemenski who had both a gallbladder and a heart attack. I mean consider your information source; you notice that the article you link does not provide names or source information? Isn’t that a red flag to someone reading it that it’s not a credible source of information?

Lake Vostok, is not even held by the United States, but rather by the Russians at Vostok Station, hence the Russian name. The reason it was decided to stop drilling before hitting the lake, is because they know it’s a pressurized atmosphere supersaturated with oxygen, and once they pierce that seal it will release like punching a hole in a balloon. Anything that is alive in the lake, at that point, will be contaminated or die from the abrupt change in the interior environment. The life that they believe lives in there, is of a simple form anyway, it is in no way advanced life forms. The way that the glacier moves over the lake, causes it to carry some of that life away, and they have been able to retrieve samples of those without piercing the lake itself, but rather by drilling cores down stream from the glacier path. To my knowledge they have not evacuated Lake Vostok anyway, Vostok station is still there, and they plan on dropping a probe into the lake after making sure it can be done without damaging the interior environment. A smart move considering that the life in there is 500,000 years old, at least.

Oh, and just so you know that Vostok Station is still there, here is today’s weather forecast from Vostok Station: Latest Meteorological report for: 89606

I agree Defcon, we humans may not be able to live on the surface but imagine if we drilled a hole down to the rock, built a city in a cavern and had a vast water supply

Even if they could get under the ice and build a city in the rock, it would get covered over with ice miles thick and that would be the end of them. While they might have water, they would not have air, heat, sunlight, or power. That is not to mention all the other assets that are required to maintain a group of people for an extended duration. What about medical gear, medicine, food, replacement parts for equipment that is going to break, and so on.

I believe that this theory is possible and would be the ideal base because of it's isolation. Is that being too far fetched?

The point I was making above, is that with all our technology in 2007, we have a tough time dealing with the extremes of Antarctica. With the technology they had in the 40’s there is no way they could have done what you claim. If there is such a thing as aliens, and they were in cahoots with the Nazi’s I doubt they would have lost WWII. Beside this then we would have such technology ourselves and it would be in use in our stations down there as well.

Okay, humans underground base and its location at the pole is just a theory. Our technology like you said may not support a city however; there are underground bunkers and things which have power generators and ways to survive a nuclear blast. How long is the question.

Back to the original question. Where are the satellite images of Antartica? I would just like to take a look around myself instead of using "what if" scenerios.