*new video* of Fleet of ufos appearing over santiago Chile 2007

The measure I made was from
33°52'38.62"S
71° 0'2.60"W
to
33°52'5.23"S
71° 0'49.77"W
If you look at this path from the department view it seems like the path the lights took

Didn't see this noted yet.
But someone commented on that video on the link and said he lives in that town and on that hill is a biketrack. Might eplain some things, might not.

Nice video, But not wholly convincing yet.
(besides that I personally never thought the orb type ufo's are craft or intelligence but natural phenomena.)

Dirtbikes riding up and down the hill with lights on, you can see the movement with the bikes on the left side going up (dim light) and turn left and down (bright light)

Bikes running at... what speed? Can anybody please corroborate those sets of coordinates to see if it's possible? I mean, the author is estimating more than 500 miles/h I'll check by my own too.

Originally posted by jhamende

I don't think any of us have called ourselves debunkers. I'm not going to declare this a Fleet a alien craft when there a far too many possible explanations for it. Seems like you want to believe so badly that you ignore all the possible explantions. So instead of cracking on all the "amateurs" and "so called debunkers" why don't you offer up your own theory instead of being sarcastic about everyone elses.

The only sarcasm I see is anyone attempting to debunk this as 'motorbikes' and yes it is amateurish...because it is not only illogical, but a sorry excuse that ignores all the obvious flaws in such an assumption. It's not debunking, it's simple ignorance. Which is the only reason I jumped on it, and it isn't often that I do.

And I already offered two possibilities. There's little else that can determined without sending this to a professional analyist, but I know there's no way in hail that it's motorbikes.

[edit on 19-5-2007 by laiguana]

Originally posted by laiguana

Originally posted by jhamende

I don't think any of us have called ourselves debunkers. I'm not going to declare this a Fleet a alien craft when there a far too many possible explanations for it. Seems like you want to believe so badly that you ignore all the possible explantions. So instead of cracking on all the "amateurs" and "so called debunkers" why don't you offer up your own theory instead of being sarcastic about everyone elses.

The only sarcasm I see is anyone attempting to debunk this as 'motorbikes' and yes it is amateurish...because it is not only illogical, but a sorry excuse that ignores all the obvious flaws in such an assumption. It's not debunking, it's simple ignorance. Which is the only reason I jumped on it, and it isn't often that I do.

And I already offered two possibilities. There's little else that can determined without sending this to a professional analyist, but I know there's no way in hail that it's motorbikes.

[edit on 19-5-2007 by laiguana]

Amateurish or not they are dirtbikes, when the light is bright the bikes are turned towards the camera, the slope down the right is not at high angle either and 3 bikes follow allmost the same route. Again, the lights dim when they all are driving left or right..

Edit: You have any idea how fast and how steap angles dirtbikes can drive?


[edit on 19/5/2007 by Cygnific]

One more thing, when the video starts, you can see the bikes going uphill to the left (light is low because they shine forward away from camera) then they turn and become bright. This explains why it appears they come out of nowhere.

My perception of this is that these are vehicles of some sort on a path. The curling around the corner on the left is proof of this in my eyes. If there was solid proof of the distance between the camera and the mountain so that the speed of the vehicles could be worked out then my perception would change if the speed was measured as high as mentioned in the earlier posts here. The vehicle furthest to the right starts speeding up as the path starts to go downhill. No faster than about 80 miles per hour, I'd guess.

If any of you guys live in Chile or can come here, I invite you to the location where these videos where filmed, there you should see how far are the mountains, and measure the speed of these "bikes".

If these are bikes I want one of those, at that speed I could get to work on time everyday!

[edit on 19-5-2007 by nhobaica]

Originally posted by nhobaica
If any of you guys live in Chile or can come here, I invite you to the location where these videos where filmed, there you should see how far are the mountains, and measure the speed of these "bikes".

If these are bikes I want one of those, at that speed I could get to work on time everyday!

[edit on 19-5-2007 by nhobaica]

hahaha good point, that's what I'm exactly saying... Is it possible to you to take a picture in daylight so we can see the mountains a bit clear? Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by nhobaica
For those who think these where bikes I just uploaded a second video (6min long) where you can see the lights flying above the mountain and some strange behavior between them, you can watch it at www.youtube.com...

I look forward for your comments

regards

Hi...
Ok, they are not bikes..But they are helicopters or something very similar. Most probably a military excercise. If you watch the end of the video, they crafts are flashing just like human made aircraft.
Just my 123 cent.

The way the lights (orbs) seems to follow a road just tells me it is dirtbikes or motorbikes.

I live near A mountain range and the Lights (road) are closer than you think than the far away hilltops you see see on the clip which could be decieving to the eye

Actually lookin at the 6min video probably military exercise as people already said in Heli's

[edit on 19-5-2007 by foriZ]

Ok..I've been watching this video all day trying to figure how in the world these lights could be explained as dirt bikes or any other type of vehicle. I've come to the conclusion they are obviously not dirt bikes etc through a few reasons, some of which I will repeat as they have already been posted:

First, a note on perspective. The lead, far right light seems to travel behind the second of the three visible layers of "hills"...these hills or mountains are behind the city with respect to the camera's view.

Any vehicle traveling that fast would be prone to jumping due to terrain. These things move far too smoothly.

There is quite a bit of estimable distance between the camera and mountain considering the large city scape below...too much for a mountain bike or other vehicle's driving lamps to appear so brightly.

The velocity at which these vehicles are driving seem far to fast to allow them to stop in the manner that these "orbs" demonstrate. Even if it were possible for terrestrial vehicles to do this, it would most certainly affect the way their driving lamps appear to us.
I've seen dirt bikes stop on a dime but it most always involves some sort of spin or wag maneuver to counter its built up inertia. Wouldn't this spin cause the light to dim and disappear as it turned away from the camera and then reappear as its spin was completed?

The far left "dirt bike" at the 7 second marker is traveling at such a steep angle that its light would surely be invisible to the camera...it would be traveling up the mountain, away from the camera.

Consider the city lights, have you even seen a dirt bike with a light intensity brighter than that of a street lamp? Several of these lights do become brighter than the city lights below.

I've only disallowed for myself the possibility that these are terrestrial vehicles...they could be helicopters but that conclusion just dosen't sit right with me. My vote is UFO...not necessarily EVT but definitely UFO. Can't wait to see more of the video.

Wicked

It seems that the people who are continuing to claim that these lights are dirtbikes 8 cars haven't watched his second video:
www.youtube.com...

It's a longer verison of the clip posted and proves that whatever those lights are they are certainly NOT cars or motorbikes.

Op can you edit the thread to include the second clip in your post?

Eaglewingz

Do you have any video of the lights above the mountain, then flying in a continous take to a level below the mountain?

As it stands now, the above video has 2:09 worth of 2 or 3 lights in the sky. It then cuts to footage similiar to the first video. All the lights are at or below the summit. I would like to see a connection between the two sets of lights. That would show that the lower lights are indeed an aerial phenomenon.

From what I see it is a continuous shot. Listen to the dog barking in the background. It starts barking before at the 2:09 mark and then there is a view change but the barking is continuous. Unless there is a delay of sorts in the video but I have no idea how that would work. To me it looks like the camera video skipped as he panned to the right.



[edit on 20-5-2007 by xEphon]

Ok first of all we've said that these may not be cars or dirtbikes but you all seem to ignore that. Second, we really should keep this thread to discussion on the first video becasue its not evidence for the first video when we need longer footage of the first video. Now I know you all want to believe and so do I. However, that aside this is the least significant video i've seen. C'mon guys look at the way the light angles change these are without a question directional lights of some sort. Whether there searchlights or whatever i don't know but this much is obvious. As I said before these lights only show lateral movment when they are facing away from the camera. Do you actually think these are a bunch of Flying Saucers with headlights on the front? Get a clue

It's definatelly not a land based vehicle at about the 4:30 mark you can clearly see one of them are not on the ground but in the air.Interesting video but what it all comes down to is that it's still just a bunch of dot's in the sky.

Originally posted by Samblak
It's definatelly not a land based vehicle at about the 4:30 mark you can clearly see one of them are not on the ground but in the air.Interesting video but what it all comes down to is that it's still just a bunch of dot's in the sky.

your referring to the second video here, how are the two even related. Well there both lights I guess but other than that that doesn't prove the first video true. The light never go beyond the mountain in the first video. And the second night video is less convincing as there may be different types of lights from different sources.

Wheres the author with his longer video??

Originally posted by xEphon
It seems that the people who are continuing to claim that these lights are dirtbikes 8 cars haven't watched his second video:
www.youtube.com...

It's a longer verison of the clip posted and proves that whatever those lights are they are certainly NOT cars or motorbikes.

Different video, different place, different time!. There was no tower at the previous video. Why did he not zoom in closer in the previous video that was earlier in the evening and lighter outside?

Originally posted by WickedStar
Consider the city lights, have you even seen a dirt bike with a light intensity brighter than that of a street lamp? Several of these lights do become brighter than the city lights below.

Wicked

Bikes have dim and bright light maybe they have fog lights to.. These are very bright and would not debunk a 'vehicle' light.

[edit on 20/5/2007 by Cygnific]

Originally posted by jhamende
As I said before these lights only show lateral movment when they are facing away from the camera. Do you actually think these are a bunch of Flying Saucers with headlights on the front? Get a clue

Exactly my point, maybe these are the new 2007 UFO models with searchlights infront of the craft. Who knows.