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DOD-VA: the 4,200+ US dead in the Philippine's-American War didn't serve their country

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posted on May, 18 2007 @ 02:56 AM
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Following the Imperialist Disinfo Logic, those who died just yesterday won't be listed eventually either.

Library of Congress:

1902 July
War ended in the Philippines, with more than 4,200 U.S. soldiers, 20,000 Filipino soldiers, and 200,000 Filipino civilians dead.
www.loc.gov...


DOD-VA:

www1.va.gov...
Spanish-American War (1898-1902)
Total Servicemembers (Worldwide).................306,760
Battle Deaths......................................................385
Other Deaths in Service (Non-Theater)................2,061
Non-mortal Woundings......................................1,662


DOD Spanish-American War casualty Total: 4108
Casualties includes those injured but not killed.

The Philippines-American War was an offshoot of the Spanish-American War.

The DOD/VA didn't bother to total them in there. I guess they didn't matter?

No, they did matter. They symbolize American Empire, but back then they didn't have a justifiable cop-out like we have nowadays for every "enemy" we're spoon-fed propaganda about.

Well beyond 200,000 Filipino's died from U.S. Imperial occupation, which included mass tyranny and torture and scortched earth campain's. This parallel's basically every other conflict we're actaully told about, or remember. The only difference is there wasn't a scapegoat involved here, and it's easy to keep quiet because it's overseas. It's the overseas matters that we don't hear about fully (to this day) that keep US ignorant to the irrefutable fact that "we're" the worlds hegemonic imperialist state. In effect, they didn't actually serve their country, they served the imperialist power monger interests that drive this "country".

[edit on 18-5-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



posted on May, 18 2007 @ 03:09 AM
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Dude that war was like a hundered years ago, literally.
I don’t mean to down play the death due to time but that is the way it is. Between now and when the US Spanish war took place you have WW I, WW II, the Korean war, The Vietnam war, Gulf war I and Gulf war II, as sad as it is time does make all wounds heal and the KIA WIA from the US Pilipino war no longer matter to the population of the US as a whole. Why should they that was over one hindered years ago!
This begs the question, how long should we honor those that gave their lives in battle? Should we still honor those that fell in the war of 1812? What about the US Indian wars? The war fought against the pirates of Tripoli? And so on.
Every country has it’s history of forgotten wars should we be forced to remember each and every single one of these actions, no matter how irreverent they are to modern life?


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posted on May, 18 2007 @ 03:18 AM
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Including them in the list isn't FORCING people to remember.

There are wars with less admitted US deaths before that war, and after.

Following your scenario, US troops that died just yesterday won't need to be acknowledged. Especially not after applying my logic: that imperialist wars will be "forgotten" so that people have an easier time forgetting what their nation is.




And especially nevermind hundred's of thousands of Filippino's who were slaughter in the quest for global domination (do you doubt that US Imperialism causes this kind of trauma even today?):

historicaltextarchive.com...











[edit on 18-5-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



posted on May, 18 2007 @ 03:31 AM
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Yes they are admitted as are all combat casualties, but which wars are imperialistic and which aren’t?
And how under “my scenario” would yesterdays casualties be forgotten? Assuming you literally mean KIA?WIA that happened yesterday, compared to KIA?WIA that happened 100 years ago that I freely admit the general population of the US has forgotten about due to it’s unimportance in our daily lives plus it’s historical insignificance, why should we care?
And further more you don’t consider reminding people about a war that happened over a hundred years ago forcing people to remember?



posted on May, 18 2007 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Mxyztplk
Yes they are admitted as are all combat casualties, but which wars are imperialistic and which aren’t?


Exactly, which aren't? Out of all fo them? Then include the 'secret' wars.



And how under “my scenario” would yesterdays casualties be forgotten?


At some point, they won't need to even bother listing them anymore. That's before you apply the intentional disregard imperialist conflicts reality.


Assuming you literally mean KIA?WIA that happened yesterday, compared to KIA?WIA that happened 100 years ago that I freely admit the general population of the US has forgotten about due to it’s unimportance in our daily lives plus it’s historical insignificance, why should we care?


Thank you for almost completely unraveling the entire mindset of those who are indoctrinated to completely bend over backwards to ignore Americna Imperialism. Please don't be offended, this was me too not so long ago. But it's right there: "We" don't inhabit or call that land a "state", therefore it doesn't need to be mentioned. We all recieve pretty much the same indoctrination our entire lives. If you look at those past examples that were listed, they're the same ones that are rather hard to bury, as we literally live in those lands (all of them besides the 13 British imperial colonies).

That's the same exact way all of the rest of American Imperialism remians the hidden secret that is directly on top of the surface. As far as anyoen realizes in their own personal lives, we don't actually affect those states. What States?



And further more you don’t consider reminding people about a war that happened over a hundred years ago forcing people to remember?


Ok, then following your absolutist logic, removing them from the open historical record would be forcing people the forget.

That war isn't even the only example.

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posted on May, 28 2007 @ 03:39 PM
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BUMP

Don't forget to honor those who the government has forgotten, on this Memorial Day.

Never Forget.

[edit on 28-5-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



posted on May, 28 2007 @ 05:51 PM
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This I can vouce for. When I was in Piegon Forge TN the Traveling Wall came through and I spoke to a Vietam vet. Soldiers that was killed in Cambodia wasn't even listed on the wall. Why they are ignored is beyond me. This itself is a outrage that our government treats the vets like that.


Some of those government people needs a good slap.



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