Was flight 93 supposed to be empty? Simply incredible coincidence?

Did you know that out of 44 people 23of them were not supposed to be on flight 93.We all know how flight 93 was way underbooked something that really almost never happens for those kind of flights. But for the first time I am reading a pieace I never heard before.
So many of the ppl booked on flight 93 were last minute passengers and crew members, many of them were moved from flight 91 to flight 93 due to a crack on the winshield of flight 91. Basically the plane was really really empty just the day before.
Here are some more details and some incredible coincidences of this flight its really a nice read and it really makes you think quite a bit...

www.team8plus.org...

Why do people always find it strange that the plane did not have many passengers?

I work in the Airline industry and fly on 737-800’s, (can seat 162 – 189 passengers, deepening on Class configuration) I have flown with full crew, and only 6 passengers at some times…. Is that strange? No, we fly with the 6 passengers because the Aircraft is needed for a full flight on the return leg/onward flight.

Most flights with little number of passengers are usually last minuet passengers, why? Because in a lot of cases the Aircraft has to do that flight as it has a onward leg or return that is booked, so the airline usually sells the seats last minuet at very low process as they plane is practically empty and its not usually cost effective to fly planes with so little passengers.

Some Airlines will cancel a flight if it has a low number of passengers, but most airlines don’t, as the Aircraft is needed at the destination airport for a number of reasons.

Flying with a low amount of passengers is nothing strange at all, I have flown in my job and as a passenger on flights with as little as 6 passengers, I once was a passenger on a A340 with only 21 passengers out of 295 seats available. Was a very comfortable flight.

So why is it strange? That United was flying with such a small amount?

Mikey

From east coast to west coast is such a normal occurance?
I tought those flights were usually the one that are the most booked especially early in the morning.

It would be a very busy route, but it’s still not strange. Here in Europe one of the Busiest routes is Dublin – London & London – Dublin (all the business and connecting pax), but there do still be days with only a hand full of passengers.

So it is still not strange, even on a popular route.

You also have to remember, look at the day United 93 was on. A few examples are, it was a Tuesday, Tuesday is usually not a busy day for people to pick, most popular days are Monday, Friday and Sunday.

I think it’s a horrible coincidence that a lot of the people where moved onto the flight, or changed flights at last minuet. It’s sad.

But there is certainly nothing at all strange about the Plane having such a small amount of passengers. It’s completely normal.

Mikey

edited: Public holiday mistake, sorry. (see posts below, lol)


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Sure exept that there were 4 flights like those on 911 and all of them happen to crash somewhere.
Ture 911 its simply a lot of coincidences. nothing here as usual

Originally posted by piacenza
Sure exept that there were 4 flights like those on 911 and all of them happen to crash somewhere.
Ture 911 its simply a lot of coincidences. nothing here as usual

I don't see how this can be included in the debate about 4 planes crashing and call it suspicious.

Nothing unusual at all, The fact that all flights where not full just go’s to prove how many flights actually fly with little passengers and that September 11 2001 was not a popular day to fly, if you checked other airlines on the same day that did east – west routes you would probably find most of them empty too.

There are Heaps.

You get days when flights are packed to the brim and overbooked, on all Airlines on the same day (just try get on a flight anywhere close to Christmas) the same go’s for the other way around, Just as every flight on every Airline can be booked out for the same day, It also happens that every flight, on every airline on the same day can be not as busy. It all depends on Day, Time, Weather, Season and any Holidays that might be around the date.

If you go onto the United & American website now to book a ticket, It shows you the seat map and you can see how many tickets are already bought.

Now have a look at a few flights, on the same routes.

Pick a day, anyway. Then Compare American and United (and even other airlines if you want), their seat sales will basicly be the same, you will have one day where the plane is practically full and another day where the planes are practically empty, on both Airlines.

If you compare all the airlines together you will see a pattern, when 1 airline has a full flight, all the other ones do to. When one airline has an empty flight all the other ones do too.

It’s not strange at all. Some flights do be full, some don’t. Some Tuesday after a public holiday are completely packed, some are not.

That’s all part of Air Travel; there is nothing strange about a flight being completely overbooked or practically empty at all.

Mikey.

Mikey.. no point in trying to "prove" or show anything here, if you've followed the other 9/11 threads, there are certain people who will not accept any information from anyone who actually knows what they're talking about...

I used to be a frequent flyer, not much anymore.
And Like Mikey84 is saying..It's not unusual at all.
I was based on the West Coast, but had a lot of customers on the East Coast.

I loved those kind of flights..3 seats to myself, stretching out.
Actually being comfortable!
Like a "Poor Man's First class"

It was also a Public holiday the day before, which means even less passengers. Most people would return on the Monday night from a Public Holiday weekend. Not a Tuesday Morning.


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What public holiday was Sep 10, 2001? Even if it had been a holiday weekend I don't see why it would effect air traffic on a Tuesday. The 911 flights were prime time popular routes and yet the planes were strangely empty and so many of the 911 passengers seem to have been strangely connected with the government in some way. I would be interested in seeing the comparative statistics for the same flights in the preceding Tuesdays - if such flights even existed, since the 911 flights may not even have been listed, and some of the 911 planes were still listed in service AFTER 911. Of course all this info is carefully hidden away along with the original passenger manifests, the airport surveillance videos, the 83 Pentagon surveillance tapes, the 911 spy-in-the-sky images, and everything else - or else they tell us it was "accidentally shredded" like the post-911 ATC debriefing tapes.

I don't work in the airline industry like the man above, but in my pre-911 flying experiences I was almost always jammed into airplanes like a sardine after they started their computerized overbooking.



Ratskywatsky

I'm pretty sure Sept. 10, 2001 was NOT a public holiday in the U.S. I put in a stock trade at 3:57 pm on Sept. 10 so I know that at least the stock market was open. And typically, the stock market is closed on public holidays.

If Sep 10th was a public holiday like the guy said I don't know what it was. Labor Day was the week before.





R

I do think its very unhealthy to not take first hand experience into consideration when analysing 911.

I used to be convinced that the towers where brought down using explosives, but after hearing demolition experts asking where are the sounds from the explosives , i must admit I'm not so certain any more.

I still believe the government was behind the attacks but how they towers fell i require further proof.

Yea Sorry, September 10th wasnt a Public Holiday. My bad.

But in any case, Yes Public Holidays do effect the number of passangers. In this case it wasnt a public Holiday, But as I have already stated. Tuesday is not a busy day, The busy days are Monday, Friday and Sunday.

The reason you are probably always packed into flights is because of the time and day you go.

It can be a big difference, Like I said go to the Airlines websites and compare routes, dates and times and you will see a pattern on which days are busy and which are not, which planes are full and which are not.

People who fly a lot will usualy know the best days, times and flights to get so they get a near empty Aircraft - and like one poster said above, you can then stretch out.

Like i've said, there really is nothing at all strange about flights going out near empty, It happens all the time, has always happened, and i'm sure will keep happening.

Mikey

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Like i've said, there really is nothing at all strange about flights going out near empty, It happens all the time, has always happened, and i'm sure will keep happening.

Mikey

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Let's see the statistics for the same flights in the preceding weeks.




R.

I used to be convinced that the towers where brought down using explosives, but after hearing demolition experts asking where are the sounds from the explosives...


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Where are the sounds from the explosives? Are you kidding? There are COUNTLESS reports of witnesses hearing the explosions, plus the explosions are clearly audible on many many 911 videos!




R.

Originally posted by ratskywatsky

Let's see the statistics for the same flights in the preceding weeks.

If you could find the stats then great. But in the mean time, have a look at current and up coming flights. Some are completly booked out, some are basicly empty, look at other Airlines on the same dates and days and they will all follow the same pattern.

Mikey

It might depend on whether the flights were non-stop or not. I have been on a flight were there were 4 or 5 passengers but after a stop on the way the plane was nearly full due to passengers boarding for the final leg. I have to agree with the possibility that it was not really unusual.

Edit: typo

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Originally posted by ratskywatsky
I don't work in the airline industry like the man above, but in my pre-911 flying experiences I was almost always jammed into airplanes like a sardine after they started their computerized overbooking.

Same here. I remember a lot of empty seats before airline deregulation, but never afterwards.

want to read something really strange - this quote - "" 9/11 was an occult ritual invoking the Pyramids of Giza and the opening of a stargate ""

someone really believes that 911 was related to a "stargate" and they acually made a video about it .. i just didn't have the balls to watch it .

conspiracycentral.net:6969...

this is really , really sad .

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