Synchronicity, Prophecy, or Coincidence?

I have a bizarre hypothesis I plan to test. Two times now its bore fruit. The fact that no one has ever noticed these coincidences, if thats what they are, before really amazes me. Well here we go.

Prior to the Sep 11, 2001 terrorist attacks a game based on a "war simulator" for the Pentagon was being created. The plot of the game dealt with the US fighting a war against terrorism, after massive terrorist attacks. The game was called "Real War". At the time I thought it was very bizarre how close the game was to what would be the war on terror.

Before the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 two games that have plots just as bizarre. One was the Second "Real War" called Real War: Rogue States. The other game was called World War 3: Black Gold. Both dealt with themes or ideas that would soon become reality.

After these games came out I really began to wonder how could this happen. I looked to see if anything like this had happend before with other mediums such as books and films. There were parallels with the film The Seige but the best parallel I could find involving bizarre coincidences was a book written over a decade before the Titanic accident that involved a cruise liner in the almost exact situation.

I began researching the concept of Synchronicty and the Collective Unconscious. I know historically a number of inventors have made inventions or scientists with discoveries near simulataneously around the globe. I began to wonder if people, especially creative people can tap into future events unconsciously and use them in art. Art esentially becoming prophecy.

Well the time has come to test the hypothesis. There are a number of games all being released this year from various companies that deal with a set of similar events.

The first of these I heard about was called Frontlines: Fuel of War involving a hypothetical future conflict between Russia and its allies against NATO in a war for resources. One funny thing is the preview rips scenes right from the film The Seige.

The second is a game called World in Conflict depicting a hypothetical World War between NATO and the USSR in 1989. It has the same atmosphere and themes of Frontlines: Fuel of War but set in 1989. The story was written by Novelist Barry Bond I believe.

The third game is Call of Duty 4, which breaks away from its original World War 2 setting for a hypothetical World War 3 setting again involving the West and Russia.

The fourth game is Tom Clancy's EndWar. It is about Russia once again becoming a superpower during the near future Peak Oil crisis as it uses oil profits to build a massive and powerful military to face off with the EU and US. When the US tries to place a Space based Weapons facility into orbit it ignites an Apocalyptic Third World War.

I wanted to see what others thought about this. Another synchronic event I almost forgot about was the Oil Storm film and Hurricane Katrina. Oil Storm was aired about a month before the actual event.

So what does everyone think? Synchronicty, Prophesy, or Coincidence?With Putin comparing the US with the Third Reich on their memorial day and Russian Bear bombers penetrating the UK's air space all in the last week it makes one think. Consider Russia has pulled out of the Conventional Force Agreement, which was a cornerstone of the end of the Cold War, and Russia's opposition to the Theater Missile Defense Network.
Its all well just bizarre.

I'll add a different take on this. If its not Synchronicity or Coincidence is it a Conspiracy? How does this happen?

well if your right that would play right into my pretrib prophecy of russia and the middle east and war.
thanks
I think your on to something myself.
basicly the NWO and bible prophecy walking down the same road if your right cause I think the NWO orchastrates most of this.
Bilderberger.

Here's some facts and figures.

Real War released September 27, 2001.

"Product Description
Terrorist forces are threatening the free world, and the only power capable of stopping them is the U.S. military. The outcome is uncertain, but as history has shown, leadership matters. You control the balance of power. Choose your side, marshal your forces, and make real war upon your enemy.
Based on the official Joint Chiefs of Staff training game developed for the U.S. military, Real War uses real-world scenarios, allowing you to play as the current U.S. military or as a terrorist army extrapolated from actual terrorist forces."

As the terrorists in the game you can fly cargo planes in suicide attacks. That tells me the programmers and designers at least thought about suicide plane attacks before Sep 11.

Real War: Rogue States released October 1, 2002

"Product Description
Platform: Windows 98/ Me/2000/ XP Category: GAMES - STRATEGY Description Details: The Axis of Evil MUST Be Destroyed!! Rogue States Does NOT Require The Original Real War To Play!!! Smash the Alliance between the terrorist forces and the nations that support them. ROGUE STATES builds upon the best-selling REAL WAR game with 14 new campaigns, 20 new skirmish maps, 14 new units, enhanced A.I. and unit control..."

It directly names the Axis of Evil and missions in the game deal with the hunt for Weapons of Mass Destruction.

World War 3: Black Gold released October 30, 2001

"Product Description
Mayhem and chaos erupt as fear grips the world. Play as one of three military powers - USA, Russia or Iraq. Engage is six extensive campaigns with 30 missions providing breathtaking cinemtic cutscenes explaining the story and creating a unique atmosphere. "

Act of War: Direct Action released March 15, 2005

"Product Description
Act of War: Direct Action is a frightening and believable tale of suspense, ripped from today's headlines. A secret cabal of oil company owners have funded terrorist groups to destabilize the world economy, driving oil prices sky-high. As the oil barons make millions, and the energy crisis begins, US military personnel learn the truth behind the terrorism. To fight it, a new team of counter-terrorist warriors are created to face the threat. Begin the worldwide job of tracking down the terrorists and uncovering the international conspiracy before the terrorists can strike in the heart of America itself."

This one begins with terrorist attacks in London. Just a few months later fiction would become reality. The high oil prices in the game became reality after the summer of 2005 as well.

Act of War: High Treason released June 13, 2006

"Product Description
Act Of War: High Treason brings back the intense techno-thriller action that excited gamers in the first Act Of War. On the eve of the US Presidential elections, terroroist attacks hit both candidates. Corrupt elements within the US military seem responsible, but clues also point to a shadowy organization called the Consortium. Take on the role of a brigadier general in charge of Task Force TALON, a new unit designed to take on terrorism at home. You'll handle classified spy missions, delicate hostage extractions and search-and-destroy onslaughts -- pushing your men to their limits against a hidden, unpredicatble enemy. "

This one has yet to happen. We have till Nov 2008 to see if any events in this one become reality.

Here's the games that have yet to be released:

Tom Clancy's EndWar expected date 2007-2008

"...news breaks of overstated recoverable oil reserves, the result is an increase in the price of natural resources that quadruples their value and cripples the industrialized world. Amid this planetary energy crisis the Russian federation experiences a revitalization of wealth. Reinvesting its global petrol earnings into technological and military advancement. Over the next three years, the United States and Europe secretly develop plans and countermeasures against a resurgent Russia. Planet Earth, once again, finds itself possessing opposing superpowers. The era that would come to be known as the militarization of space begins..."

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare expected date 2007-2008

All I know about this one is that it has Russians, Arabs, and the US involved in somekind of world war.

Frontlines: Fuel of War expected January 2008

"in the midst of a global energy crisis. As supplies of oil and natural gas wane, diplomatic relationships between the East and West were strained, causing new alliances to be formed. The two major alliances in the Frontlines era are the Western Coalition, consisting of the United States and the European Union, and the Red Star Alliance, made up of Russia and the People's Republic of China. As the last oil fields start to go dry, the countries move to secure what resources are left, leading to several small outbreaks that turn quickly into full scale war."

So here's my predictions based on the games. There's good chance there will be a terror attack before the elections in Nov 2008. A global energy crisis will bring Russia massive wealth allowing them to rebuild their military while the crisis weakens the European Union and the United States setting the stage for possible war.

The question is this synchronicity in the games? Is it just a coincidence? Is this a conspiracy?

[edit on 17/5/07 by MikeboydUS]

Not so much coincidence as it is culture and sociology.

Even prior to 9/11 it wasn't hard to conceive of a terrorist attack on the US and a "war on terror" scenario. The WTC had been attacked before, we saw terrorists attacking in other countries, etc. It's not hard to then imagine the US getting attacked, and it's even easier to imagine the US going to war, something that it does quite regularly. We have, as a society, also imagined nuclear warfare occurring between the US and other states, or of post-apocalyptic scenarios around the world. If these things come to be, would you think that they were prophetic in the real sense of the word? These are possible scenarios that could happen, but if they do that doesn't mean they were literally "predicted" by the movies, books, and games that had depicted the scenario in the first place.

There are also a lot of "misses" that you happen to be forgetting about. Where are our personal robots, flying cars, moon colonies, and teleportation? All you have to do is look at 50's era culture to see that they were far from prophetic in their vision of the future. But you are talking even way more short-term than that. You're talking about things that happen so close as to basically nullify any possible prophecy. For example, I can predict we will still be in Iraq two or three years from now, I can say that we may invade Iran, but if these things come true it's hardly a prophetic thing, it's merely a possibility given today's information. Now ask me or anyone else about 50 years in the future and I can almost guarantee I nor anyone else will predict what it will be like with much accuracy (for example, no one saw the internet coming 50 years ago, no one really could have come close to predicting it, nor could they have been expected to).

Originally posted by Densha82
Not so much coincidence as it is culture and sociology.

Even prior to 9/11 it wasn't hard to conceive of a terrorist attack on the US and a "war on terror" scenario. The WTC had been attacked before, we saw terrorists attacking in other countries, etc. It's not hard to then imagine the US getting attacked, and it's even easier to imagine the US going to war, something that it does quite regularly. We have, as a society, also imagined nuclear warfare occurring between the US and other states, or of post-apocalyptic scenarios around the world. If these things come to be, would you think that they were prophetic in the real sense of the word? These are possible scenarios that could happen, but if they do that doesn't mean they were literally "predicted" by the movies, books, and games that had depicted the scenario in the first place.

There are also a lot of "misses" that you happen to be forgetting about. Where are our personal robots, flying cars, moon colonies, and teleportation? All you have to do is look at 50's era culture to see that they were far from prophetic in their vision of the future. But you are talking even way more short-term than that. You're talking about things that happen so close as to basically nullify any possible prophecy. For example, I can predict we will still be in Iraq two or three years from now, I can say that we may invade Iran, but if these things come true it's hardly a prophetic thing, it's merely a possibility given today's information. Now ask me or anyone else about 50 years in the future and I can almost guarantee I nor anyone else will predict what it will be like with much accuracy (for example, no one saw the internet coming 50 years ago, no one really could have come close to predicting it, nor could they have been expected to).

I have to disagree with your view. We had a chance to go after terrorists in the 1980s with the bombings in Lebanon but we didnt. We had a chance after the bombings in Germany and the airliner that was blown up over Scotland in the 1980s but we didnt.

Then of course the first World Trade Center bombing in which we didnt respond with a War on Terror. We didnt after the Khobar Towers bombings, the African embassies being bombed, and the USS Cole bombing.

Other than Tom Clancy's books I cannot think of a fictional account of a large scale War on Terror in the 1990s. In his book "Executive Orders" it depicted a Commercial Airliner being used in a Suicide attack on the Capitol building during the State of the Union Address. In the book after it, it depicted the fall of Saddam and the rise of Shiites influenced by Iran to power.

Not all fiction portrays the future. The ones that do "hit" are the ones I'm interested in. Like the book about a Ocean Liner named Titania that impacts an Iceberg and sinks which was written over 20 years before the sinking of the Titanic. The descriptions of War in HG Wells War of the World accurately portrayed the destruction of World War 1 and 2. HG Wells and his contemporary Jules Verne made lots of "hits" in regards to inventions.

Not all Science Fiction is about flying cars and space colonies. As for personal robots you can buy them, theyre expensive and not as functional as in fiction. The military routinley uses drones in combat zones both ariborne and ground versions. Quantum entanglement has opened the way to Teleportation.

Here's a list of Science Fiction concepts turned fact:

Satellite Television- Arthur C Clarke.
Computer Aided Design- Robert Heinlein
Tanks- HG Wells
Nuclear Weapons- HG Wells
Cell Phones- Robert Heinlein
Commercial Space Travel. This is about to become reality.
Cybernetic implants. Neuroprosthetics are what real world calls them.
Directed Energy Weapons? THEL, ATL, COIL, and many others.

Failed or not yet Science fiction predictions:

Flying Cars of Course. Not impossible to build. Prototypes have been built but they are too expensive and dangerous. Compare to helicopters.
Video phones. Prototypes have been built but consumers simply dont want them. Teleconferencing is similar though.

This isn't really about if Jules Verne predicted a technology though. This is about bizarre coincidences if thats what they are in these games. Again I said this is hypothesis that is being tested. We have to wait and see how close they managed to get to reality.

I made my predictions: terrorist attack before the US Presidential elections and an energy crisis bringing Russia massive wealth and power.

As for the Internet, HG Wells did in fact depict a massive information network very similar to what we call the Internet before digital computers even existed. Jules Verne also depicted a similar network. Both well over 50 years before it was invented.

That's all fine and good, but you're missing the main point: the games are so close to the events happening that any informed person is going to be able to give you a storyline for something similar. We have some tense ties with Russia, what's new there? There's trouble in the Middle East? Surprise. Terrorists want to kill us? We know that already. The predictive power of the games is due to their being based on real data, it doesn't even take that much imagination to consider many of the plot-lines.

You're also being really, super, super, selective in this. Why are the developers of modern-day war games so gifted but the makers of Japanese RPGs aren't? The answer is, in my opinion, better explained by the above paragraph rather than they have some psychic connection to the future.

Now if I plumber jumps on some mushrooms and turtles and ends up saving the world someday, I'll be the first to admit that you have some evidence, but until then this is quite baseless, even if your test predictions come true.

Originally posted by Densha82
That's all fine and good, but you're missing the main point: the games are so close to the events happening that any informed person is going to be able to give you a storyline for something similar. We have some tense ties with Russia, what's new there? There's trouble in the Middle East? Surprise. Terrorists want to kill us? We know that already. The predictive power of the games is due to their being based on real data, it doesn't even take that much imagination to consider many of the plot-lines.

You're also being really, super, super, selective in this. Why are the developers of modern-day war games so gifted but the makers of Japanese RPGs aren't? The answer is, in my opinion, better explained by the above paragraph rather than they have some psychic connection to the future.

Now if I plumber jumps on some mushrooms and turtles and ends up saving the world someday, I'll be the first to admit that you have some evidence, but until then this is quite baseless, even if your test predictions come true.

I can see part of your point, but i'll have to disagree. Their have been "coincidences" in other mediums such as novels, films, art and music. Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon are not the place where you find the coincidences. Do you see correlation between fantasy and Mario Bothers? Your not going to find coincidences in fantasy.

I dont think calling it Psychic is the right term. It's Synchronicity, which as I understand it isnt psychic. Carl Jung is the one who coined the term.

en.wikipedia.org...

web.ncf.ca...

Here's some food for thought:

www.geocities.com...
www.snopes.com...
www.museumofhoaxes.com...
www.2spare.com...
www.geocities.com...
www.oddweek.com...
leebor2.100webspace.net...
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leebor2.100webspace.net...

Even skeptics have been amazed by the number of bizarre coincidences throughout history.

I know conspiracy theorists would say its a conspiracy not Synchronicity. I personally believe saying its a conspiracy is even wackier than Synchronicity. I havnt made up my mind yet on what exactly it all means other than maybe reality has a weird sense of humor.

What are your thoughts on Synchronicty and the various above links. Two of them normally expose hoaxes and false events, snopes and museum of hoaxes.

The Lone Gunman, a pilot that aired on T.V. before 9/11, was about a terrorist flying into the world trade center. Strangely enough I believe it was a spin off from the X-Files.


Look at the similarities with JFK and Lincoln. www.orwelltoday.com...



[edit on 7-5-2009 by metta]

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i'm very new to this but i think this thread died twoyears ago.

however that doesnt mean i'm not interested. synchronicity, prophecy or coincidence is just what i've been looking for. my thoughts on the subject go something like this: the near future is easier to see because the closer it gets the less possibilities of change. like a trip to mexico tomarrow is more likely to happen than a one a year from now,even if both were planned exactly alike, the odds of your trip changing over a year are greater than over night. synchronicity and coincidence are like this: you and a friend unknowingly leave home at the same time and meet acidentaly halfway to the same destination. strange but not too strange. prophecy is prior knowledge of this event,preferablymore than 5 minutes, and manipulation or divine intervention would be all of your friends and family unknowingly meeting halfwayto the same destination.