Who can help me out here?

I have friend who says that they have researched some 911 theories on the net but thinks it is all dodgy websites full of stories and opinion. Can anyone here post a link to a credible site or sites that have irrefuetably strong evidence that points to a conspiracy? I really need to send him some solid links before he becomes another sheeple not willing to believe there could be more to the official story.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

I don't trust a lot of it. These are pretty much the best:

Facts: www.cooperativeresearch.org...

Thoughts: rigint.blogspot.com...

Facts and thoughts: theall-seeingi.blogspot.com... (by an ATS member)
they-let-it-happen.blogspot.com... (by me)

Frauds: frustratingfraud.blogspot.com... (by me)

Historical Precedent: 12-7-9-11.blogspot.com... (me again! Sorry)


Others linked from there. Each piece of evidence is what it is, there's not as much as some people think, you need to have on the big picture goggles to see it. Good luck.

Irrefutably strong evidence? Hmm.. there's not much here that someone hasn't tried to debunk, on the whole what we have as a group are more questions than answers.. There's some interesting pictures, there is some interesting seismograph stuff, but honestly, your best option is to do your own research, read what's here, follow the links, and be able to defend it to your friend yourself - almost everything out there 'can' be debunked, though in some cases the debunking is worse than the CT as far as making bizarre leaps in logic..

start with those:
patriotsquestion911.com
wtc7.net

Thanks for the links Caustic but unfortunately they are all dead. Could you please re post?

Originally posted by Inannamute
your best option is to do your own research, read what's here, follow the links, and be able to defend it to your friend yourself

Thanks for the advice. I feel like I have done a reasonable amount of research over the past few years but I'm really just in need of some decent sources to point people towards. Whenever you I point someone to a site that's just some guys opinion I lose all cred. I'm hoping someone out there can point to a site that can has some real credibility and can draw someone who is on the fence in a make them think a little deeper. I feel like heaps of people I know are now starting to think there's something suss going on in the world but it's really hard to collate all the various issues quickly to get someone's attention.

So far I usually just say to people. 'How many buildings came down on 911?' When they find out about WT7 it sometimes gets peoples attention but I also think it makes them realise how much wool is pulled over their eyes and a part of peoples egos doesn't let them admit it.

By the way, I live in Australia so 911 isn't as much of a big issue here which makes it even harder for me to get through to people.

weird.
Okay this one again: www.cooperativeresearch.org...

Maybe they don't allow hotlinking or whatever. The others work for me, just copy the urls into the browser if not

I also reccomment wtc7.net as a prime source on WTC collapse info. It's got a lot going but doesn't all line up. I'm a skeptic on that, but that site's good for putting it all up with evidence and logic.

Originally posted by mustbebc
Thanks for the links Caustic but unfortunately they are all dead. Could you please re post?

heres those links repaired. seems he did'nt fill in the url field, nor did he need to do that since the text he used was the url.....


www.cooperativeresearch.org...

rigint.blogspot.com...

theall-seeingi.blogspot.com...

they-let-it-happen.blogspot.com...

frustratingfraud.blogspot.com...

12-7-9-11.blogspot.com...


Some pretty good stuff there.

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Thanks for everone's help. So what do you all think is the strongest theory to suggest a CT? Is it WT7, no planes or paper trails??

Hi,

Not sure if your interested, but there are a few websites that show "debunking" of the conspiracies. Read all you can from BOTH sides then make your own decision.

www.debunking911.com...

www.911myths.com...

screwloosechange.blogspot.com...


Some Engineering Opinions that deal with the collapse:

www.911myths.com...

www.civil.usyd.edu.au...

www.jnani.org...

ben93.livejournal.com...


Have Fun!

Originally posted by mustbebc
Thanks for everone's help. So what do you all think is the strongest theory to suggest a CT? Is it WT7, no planes or paper trails??

The way I see it, it's not quite as simple as that. There are many discrepancies to the "official" version of what happened at each location.

WTC7 would be a good place to start researching, as well as the Shanksville "crash" site or the Pentagon.

As far as having anything irrefutable, I don't think that has happened yet. A couple of good calls imo, but nothing truly irrefutable.

So go do some research, and see what you can come up with. And remember, don't believe everything that you read on the internet. Use your own judgement in evaluating all of the information that is available.

Originally posted by mustbebc
Thanks for everone's help. So what do you all think is the strongest theory to suggest a CT? Is it WT7, no planes or paper trails??

My CT's are not as "sexy" as some in here.

I believe Bush did NOT plan this, he somehow let it happen.(negligence?)

I base my opinion on a couple facts:

-Bush did NOT want an inquiry into the events of 911
-under funded the 911commision
- hired Henry Kissinger as the original chairman
- REFUSED to be questioned by the 911 Commision unless Cheney was present.

Here is a video of Bush being questioned about refusing to be questioned.




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Try this one. Sholarsfortruth.org

Edit cause link didnt work

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I think it's AgitatedChop who posted a really good thread in current events about the large number of coincidences, some related to 9/11

it's here

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Ignorance can be bliss, maybe your friend will live a more peaceful life without being drawn into all this stuff. Many people would rather not know, it is hard enough to discover the truth for ourselves without dragging the unwilling along with us. Save your efforts for someone who wants to learn.

Originally posted by RedPill
Ignorance can be bliss, maybe your friend will live a more peaceful life without being drawn into all this stuff. Many people would rather not know, it is hard enough to discover the truth for ourselves without dragging the unwilling along with us. Save your efforts for someone who wants to learn.

I hear your logic but I feel like if there is something terrible going on then those of us who suspect as much should try our best to make people aware. Otherwise atrocities like 911 and the Iraq war will continue. Seriously if enough people become disenchanted by our governments then we might actually be able to create a world that isn't so horrible.

Originally posted by mustbebc
I have friend who says that they have researched some 911 theories on the net but thinks it is all dodgy websites full of stories and opinion. Can anyone here post a link to a credible site or sites that have irrefuetably strong evidence that points to a conspiracy? I really need to send him some solid links before he becomes another sheeple not willing to believe there could be more to the official story.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Yes,

Show him this video.

video.google.com...

Here is an interesting site which has some calculations of the collapse time of the twin towers.

It's called the billiardball theory.

You'll never get irrefutable proof of 9/11, its more a case of what you believe. You'll need a time machine to get the real story.

Personally they are just peoples theories and ideas.

And the best of them are on this site, so why not start here?

Originally posted by selfless

Originally posted by mustbebc
I have friend who says that they have researched some 911 theories on the net but thinks it is all dodgy websites full of stories and opinion. Can anyone here post a link to a credible site or sites that have irrefuetably strong evidence that points to a conspiracy? I really need to send him some solid links before he becomes another sheeple not willing to believe there could be more to the official story.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Yes,

Show him this video.

video.google.com...

That first 30seconds of video tape , to me , proves that BOTH the WTC's collasped because of the plane's crashing into them . Just watch that first 30seconds very close , and you'll see , for yourself , that the building's
collaspe is directly at the point of impact of the plane . That would have to be one hell of bomb placement to have placed it directly where the plane was going to hit .
Now , find any piece of tape showing the other building collaspe and watch it fall at the point of impact . It's all right there in the video tape .
And as for all this " Fell in 9.3 seconds " bull , when that dust cloud begins to roll up , NO ONE can see inside that cloud and NO ONE can say what's going on inside the cloud . and to me that's one little fact that always gets left out .
But , that's just m2c .

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