Chemical Trails Dropped by Planes in Western NY

Here in lovely western new york I have been watching chemtrails for a couple years and im getting really sick of it. theres not # that I can do about it ye tevery day I see X's and Grid lines in the sky. Different colored trails sometimes too! I dont know what i'm breathing on a daily basis but they arent stoppinga nytime soon.

Topic: Anyone else in NY seeing these bizzare sightings?

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Your breathing heavy metals such as Barium,Aluminum,Lead.Uranium.Arsenic.Mercury.26 heavy metals have been found along with 4 molds and fungi also anthrax and pneumonia 7 viruses and 9 chemicals including acetylcholine chloride. All of this has been found in chemtrail fallout

Ummm no. No chemmie has ever yet show any such lab test of anything that implicates aircraft of any such thing. Its amazing how many things people attribute to aircraft. Whats next? If you fail a test, you blame airplanes? Get hungover, lets blame airplanes too.

So you think if you sample some air, find barium, that it comes from airplane exhaust?

Yet another person claiming that aircrafts paths should not cross and that does not believe in refraction.

I go to school in Western NY and this has been rapidly speeding up over the past few months.

I first noticed maybe a few planes a day, but now its over 10-20 with giant Xs in the sky.

This is not just ice crystals, it is something much more sinister.

The plumes are not coming from the engines, but from the large bumps on the wings...If you pickup a pair of binoculars you will notice this.

What is their intention? Make us all too sick to fight back?

You only started noticing, when someone told you or you read about them.

So what is contrails cross? How does that mean anything?

Chemtrails are designed to weaken the human immune system, as already stated, and possibly used in conjuction with HAARP and other similar systems to manipulate the behaviour of society as a whole.

My own opinion is that it is something to do with dudding humans in preparation for 2012.

I have seen these tell-tale signs like the x's and plumes that spread out and last rather than disipate. The planes also don't seem to be invovled in normal air traffic and why are there so many parallel lines, relatively close together. I hoped that we were being over looked but that does not appear to be the case anymore.

All I know is that chemtrails are a REAL phenomena seperate from regular happy-happy contrails. After 7 years of observation and plumbing the net for info I am certain that something is being deposited in the atmosphere.

Just what it is and what its Biological effects are, I do not know.

Just be prepared to hear the "OMG you fools those are teh normal Contrails, blah,blah,blah" ad nauseum.


THIS SITE has superb data!!! Notice which craft statistically correlate with chemtrail activity???

The process of collection of data about contrails, such as altitude for use in atmospheric analysis, revealed that the highly persistent trails were being produced by flights that did not appear on Flight Explorer. The inability to gain altitude information and the temporal challenges in measuring their complete persistence impedes an analysis analogous to that for the confirmed contrails; however these factors indicate that this is a unique category of trail.

Flight Explorer Personal Edition is an Internet-based flight-tracking tool that allows the user to obtain information about commercial, passenger, and private flights. All flights utilizing IFR (instrument flight rules) submit a flight plan to one of the regional ARTCCs (air route traffic control centers), this information becomes part of the FAA supplied datastream that is used by Flight Explorer. Aircraft flying via VFR (visible flight rules) are not part of the datastream, however this is irrelevant to this study since the lowest altitude at which contrailing was observed during research was 31,000 ft. and there are no VFR flights allowed in a Class A airspace, above 18,000 ft., although there is one very rare exception to this rule. Military flights are filtered from the datastream by the FAA for security reasons.

Glad to see the interest in this phenomena on the board.

I feel strongly that this is a big peice of the ugly puzzle.

It was a couple of years ago when the CDC came to KC and parked a number of mobile high tech medical units on wheels around the area. They were going to go door to door asking certain locales to come to their mobile labs and do major testing on 300 random people running more tests than I have ever heard of on them.

Why? They said for no particular reason, just for a data base.

Might not be related, but enough of this stuff and it is difficult to be comfortable with the status quo.

What I don't understand is how efficient could this be? I mean it's incredibly windy up there...By the time the "chemicals" reach the surface they will have been blown kilometres away.

Originally posted by DazedDave
What I don't understand is how efficient could this be? I mean it's incredibly windy up there...By the time the "chemicals" reach the surface they will have been blown kilometres away.

Even if they're miles away from the original dose, the chemtrails will float down to you. It doesn't take very long until they dissipate into the atmosphere.

Originally posted by Stale Cracker
All I know is that chemtrails are a REAL phenomena seperate from regular happy-happy contrails.

All I know is that these supposed chemtrails are mostly produced by commercial airliners on routine flights, look and behave identical to contrails and only appear under the right atmospheric conditions for persistent contrails ....

And the only way to stop them, is for people to stop flying

Originally posted by biggie smalls

Originally posted by DazedDave
What I don't understand is how efficient could this be? I mean it's incredibly windy up there...By the time the "chemicals" reach the surface they will have been blown kilometres away.

Even if they're miles away from the original dose, the chemtrails will float down to you. It doesn't take very long until they dissipate into the atmosphere.

Actually, at that altitude anything being sprayed will most likely reach the surface hundreds, if not thousands of miles away .... Maybe that's why they 'spray' so many over the ocean?





[edit on 15-5-2007 by Essan]

Not this again!
How often do we have to pick this hoax to shreds before folks start to understand that it’s nothing but normal contrails. I have noticed an upswing on this board lately, of this being mentioned in passing on other threads as well, including the Real ID Act thread. Over there, there seem to be some folks who believe that the Real ID is going to somehow absorb HoaxTrails and perform some form of mind control.

So lets take this again from the top I guess…

Originally posted by nuclearap0x
X's and Grid lines in the sky

These are created because aircraft fly on VOR lines, also called Victor Airways, or Jetways. They are created by a directional VHF radio beacon, and they often intersect to form big X’s. The grinds are because A) Aircraft do not always align exactly on the beacon, and B) the wind shifts the previous contrail one direction or another before the next flight comes through and makes another "grid" line. The flights going across the grid are aircraft doing the same thing going another direction.
Here is a info on VOR’s, including a nice picture of what the beacons look like: VHF Omni-directional Radio Range

Originally posted by nuclearap0x
I dont know what i'm breathing on a daily basis but they arent stoppinga nytime soon.

Nothing different then you are breathing from the exhaust of a car on a cold morning. Obviously carbon monoxide is not a healthy thing to breath but it disperses rapidly.

Originally posted by Supergoober
Your breathing heavy metals such as Barium,Aluminum,Lead.Uranium.Arsenic.Mercury.26 heavy metals have been found along with 4 molds and fungi also anthrax and pneumonia 7 viruses and 9 chemicals including acetylcholine chloride.

Complete and utter rubbish, totally untrue, totally unproven, and totally silly. There is nothing like this loaded on aircraft that is sprayed into the atmosphere. There is nothing like this in the fuel either, as at the airport, we take great care to filter the fuel and test it to ensure it is free from impurities. Most fuel is tested in the tank farm daily, as it can get bacteria in it, it is filtered as it is pumped on the aircraft, it is filtered in the aircraft, and the aircraft are frequently sumped to ensure there is no condensation contamination in the fuel either. The idea that there is something else being pumped on the aircraft is incorrect as well, it is easy enough to show what each of the pieces of ground service equipment does in fact pump. Besides all of this there is no way you could keep any of this secret, everyone on the airfield would know about it. It would take a tremendous amount of people, work and storage space to move, pump, and tank all these supposed chemicals.

Originally posted by Supergoober
All of this has been found in chemtrail fallout This recipe causes flu like symptoms which weakens the immune system leaving victims open to other diseases.

Funny I work for a doctors office now, specifically a pulmonologists, and have yet to hear about anyone having lung problems from having breathed in con/hoaxtrails.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
I first noticed maybe a few planes a day, but now its over 10-20 with giant Xs in the sky.

Yeah its spring/summer, and the flight loads and schedules increase as more folks are going on vacation.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
The plumes are not coming from the engines, but from the large bumps on the wings.

Yeah they are called flap track fairings, and there is nothing spooky, mysterious, amazing about them. There is also nothing being pumped through them as they contain the screws which drop the friggen flaps.

This is what they look like with the plastic removed and the flaps extended:

Originally posted by Stale Cracker

Big loops like this are either where a student pilot or fighter pilot was playing around or practicing something, or they are holding patterns, again nothing strange here.
Holding Pattern