People want physical proof.. well here is my recollection of physical proof

before i go any further. i DON'T have a link.. this was on one of the various ufo files played on the history channel.. i've posted this thread before, no recognition.. people ask for proof, when i saw this damning video on the history channel.. that sealed it for me

i'm going to cut it short, because it is a bit long.. and i saw this approximately 2 years ago, so the info on details are hazy.. but the point is what i remember.. so bare with me


a man and his wife, driving a red truck along side some country road. stopped dead in their tracks past midnight when the couple saw something extraordinary in the sky..

the man got out, the wife stayed inside the vehicle.. the man recalled the object being two blue beams running parallel to eachother in the sky.. an object was approaching these blue beams, but then something fell towards the ground, right over the hills this man and his wife were stationed at.. like a meteor falling..

so this man, who never believed in ufos or anything of that kind.. (this was also in the 70s, can't remember if it was late, mid or early) naturally drove his truck up to this hill, found the object.. still glowing red from the extreme heat due to it's fall.. it was like a blob that resembled a horizontal tear drop.. he got an old rag from his truck, wrapped the tear drop shaped 'thing' over it.. and left

keep in mind, he's telling his story on the ufo files.. he has a full white beard, but around 60.. spoke so clear headed, very sincere.. and said he didn't want this to happen to him, he never believed in any of this crap..

anyway, he still has the object, and ITS SHOWN.. except the top part of it was severed off for lab testing.. a little over his time, he took it into several top MITs and any place dealing with something such as this.. of course an extraordinary claim with the object in his hand would cause any leading scientific faction to gladly take in the object for analysis... which is exactly what happened (i wish i could remember the name of the MIT's, or the specific, initial one he took it to)

anyway, after however many days of analysis.. the professor came back, telling the man the object he found is of extraterrestrial origin, not a meteor, asteroid.. whatever.. but extraterrestrial in origin.. this man couldn't believe it..

except, 3 days later.. the professor retracted his statement telling the man that it WAS just debri from a meteor.. or something along those lines.. remember, this was 2 years ago i watched this, but the basics and premise are here, you get the idea..

so, that professor told him that someone higher up in his division demanded he retract his statement, due to unknown men telling HIS higher up to keep their mouths shut and shut for good..

so ever since then, he still has the object.. you see it on the program.. but it has the severed part missing.. which was taken in for analysis initially and never returned.. around the 90s he wanted answers, so he took the remaining part of this object to various top mit's at the time..

they all came back with the same explanation.. and this is whats mind blowing

the compounds that remained IN THIS OBJECT, ranged from a CERTAIN decimal number, which can only rule the object being from MARS and NO WHERE ELSE.

i remember, it showed the lab papers, it had all sorts of compounds to the left, followed by decimal ranges to the right, and how it had that certain amount of so and so.. could of been iron, some other compound.. don't remember.. but these mit's all stated that the compounds presented in this object without a doubt prove it being from mars.

shortly following these chain of events.. he went even further, hiring some people for his own, personal investigation.. spent years and years trying to get to the bottom of what he saw, what he had in his hand.. and what it was exactly from

the investigators he hired(don't remember if they were ufologists or not)found out something baffeling.. in austria in the 1940s. CONTINUED

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

.. in the 1940s... in austria, the military reported the same incident, and found almost the SAME, EXACT object.. the picture is shown, its a photo-copied version, same exact tear drop shape.. and it was placed over a measuring paper in the background.. anyways, the files pertaining to the austrian found object, later classified it to only be a UFO.. yes that's right, UFO..

so i tell you, a man finding this object, then finding out that austrian military personnel in the 1940s had the same experience, have pictures of the object which is basically the twin of the latter object.. the files all there from the event, leading them to believe it was a ufo and none other..

MIT tests coming back showing this ranged from that certain decimal point, that in space, as far as space goes... this object was no doubt from mars..

for me, this was physical proof.. the proof everyone keeps yapping about looking for..

i wish i had the link, remembered that episode, or anything pertaining to this case but i simply cannot find anything.. i don't know what to search for because no specific names come up in my mind..

if anyone has any info regarding this episode please come forward..

and i can see how some would not believe this story, because i have no links..

all i can say is, i saw this.. 2 years ago, it was on ufo files.. and this was the most genuine case i've EVER come across.. thanks

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

well i think i would need to see an actual ET or be inside of an actual UFO with ETs in it and not humans to get the proof i want.

dosnt mean i dont believe tho! this story is a good one, probably one of the better ones to come out of the TV series UFO files

actually, i retract my first statement, if i saw 2 parallel blue beams in the sky and then something fall from it, then go find the item and have it tested at MIT i guess i would be 100% sure..

nice post

I saw this documentary too. Did a bit of search and finally found a report on this with photos Bob White - Alien Artifact

The object looks really cool!!

[edit on 10/5/07 by GrimUK]

ahh, THANK YOU SO MUCH!

everyone, please go to that link for a better analysis on my hazy memory..

this to me, is not deniable!

cheers

damn that thing looks crazy and definitly not terrestrial

Take a look at some of the links below the report it talks of analyses being carried out on the object. One analysis pretty much confirms that the object is extraterrestrial and is infact from Mars! Cool find!!

thats awesome.. if you can give a direct link that'd be great


what's a let down though, is that the main summary at the bottom claims a hand full of scientific facilities said theres nothing extraterrestrial about it..

when the evidence was already brought by the leading facilities prior to that!

i also wish this website mentioned the austrian incident that happened in the 1940s which introduced almost an identical object

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

Do you mean this guy?

video.google.com...

www.greatdreams.com...

that's him.. a regulare ole' guy with a remarkable find



www.greatdreams.com...


this is the picture of the object found in the 1940s in DENMARK by the military.. (excuse my mistake earlier)

you can see the striking similarities between the two

so if scientists are going to say it's satellite debri or meteor debri.. when in the 1940s this was found by military personnel and could only conclude it derived from a UFO.. how could that be? how could this merely be satellite debri from the 1940s and the 1980s looking pretty much exactly the same?

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

"Isotope abundance ratio tests were performed on Bob's object in May, 1999 in La Jolla, CA and the numbers are virtually the same as obtained from Martian meteorite samples. The ratio of isotopes of Strontium for the QUE 94201 meteorite found in Antarctica in 1994 was 0.701. The ratio of isotopes of Strontium for Bob's object was 0.712. The ratio of isotopes of Strontium for the Shergotty meteorite found India in 1865 was 0.723. Bob's object is right in the middle of two proven Martian meteorites!"

The Martian meteorite data came from a scientific paper published on the website of the Planetary Science Research Discoveries, an educational website supported by NASA's Office of Space Sciences and by the Hawaii Space Grant Consortium.


heres the test result picture... this is the smoking gun for me


www.greatdreams.com...

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

Man finds tough sell for his "UFO discovery"

06/22/04 - The Seattle Times

By Steve Rock
Knight Ridder Newspapers

REEDS SPRING, Mo. — Bob White is convinced his story deserves a grand stage, that his most prized possession should be displayed before a national audience.
It should draw tourists from all over the country, he figures, and be a major attraction for people who want to see an artifact that White swears was retrieved from a UFO in 1985.
Instead, White's find is in tiny Reeds Spring in southwestern Missouri, secured in a locked display case at Museum of the Unexplained, a converted video-rental store that, during a recent morning, went more than three hours without a customer.
White can't figure it out.
All he wants to do is find some believers. He wants people to quit snickering and looking at him as if he's crazy. He wants them to listen to his story, to take a hard look at his metallic artifact, to give him a chance.

That's the sad part. No 10 million dollar pay day. Nobody even wants to look at it for a buck. Instead all he got was people laughing at him.

Originally posted by Malakai
later classified it to only be a UFO.. yes that's right, UFO..

so i tell you, a man finding this object, then finding out that austrian military personnel in the 1940s had the same experience, have pictures of the object which is basically the twin of the latter object.. the files all there from the event, leading them to believe it was a ufo and none other..

[edit on 10-5-2007 by Malakai]

How can you classify something on the ground that isn't moving as a 'ufo'? it isn't flying. It becomes an unidentified object, a UO.

on the same note, how can you 'lead someone to believe' something was a UFO? There is no belief required to know something is a UFO. Not knowing what it is is the entire point of calling i a UFO. It's a UFO- an Unidentified Flying Object. The only 'leading someone to believe' that occurs is when you lead someone to believe it is something, such as something from an alien ship.

UFO means just that, Unidentified Flying Object, not alien spacecraft.

[edit on 5/10/2007 by Ack]

I raised the subject of Bob White's Alien Artifact in response to a thread a few months back asking what the best UFO related cases with physical evidence were. I still believe this is one of, if not the best.

This is also the best site for getting the latest info on tests being done on the object. It's also possible the ugliest site I've ever seen in my life, and if the contrast & brightness are turned up it very well may blind you!

The existence of strontium was the first piece of evidence that this object was not formed on this planet. They now have more evidence with tests showing that the object emits neutron radiation. Pretty compelling stuff, it's just a shame more of mainstream science isn't taking an interest in this case.

Reading your post, I knew the story as well, as Bob White had recently appeared in, IIRC, an online article on a major site, so it was all quite familiar.

I remember that he's started a museum for his object, which no one is willing to pay to see. Apparently, it is a curse--it has personally only brought him debt, ridicule or indifference, when it is indeed an extraordinary object, clearly ET in origin.

But people are conditioned just not to care. Like they are conditioned just not to care what goes on in Washington.

We have a Dr. removing alien implants with similar lab test results, we have Bob White's object, and a number of similar, proven ET objects (I'm thinking particularly of those pieces found on a beach in South America after an apparent crash)--heck, we've even had squadrons flying over the Capitol and Mexico City--but still nothing budges.

Simply remarkable. Unless the object is as big as the Washington Monument and drops on the White House lawn, forgeddaboudit.

I just finished watching a UFO doco, and realised straight away that it is the one you were talking about Malakai, it's called "UFO Files - UFO Hunters" if you wanted to watch it again. I'm sure you can find it somewhere, probably You Tube.
Thanks for the interesting case!

Yea, I saw that thing on google video about him and there was a thread on it I'd say about 6 to 8 months ago.

looks like a piece of rock or carved wood...big deal

the 'big deal' is that he sent it in for lab testing and the results came back for being of martian origin. such as the martian meteorites found in antarctica and india prior to this.

did you look at the ratios and the analysis i posted?

yeah, i read it

it says its vickers hardness reading was 60 for a perpendicular cut and 62 for a parallel cut

a) theres no cutting involved during a vickers hardness test

b) aluminium alloys have a vickers hardness of at least 167MPa

if the report is wrong about a simple test like a vickers hardness i'm not goin to believe the spectrometer results