The Truth of Holy Grail

I have always found this topic interesting and intriguing.Now,I'am seeking to find out the absolute truth. Where is the Holy Grail today? Does it really have the Powers it is supposed to have? What is the truth behind the Conspiracy Theories surrounding the Templars? Please help me in understanding the facts in my pursuit of truth...

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[edit on 10/5/2007 by Mirthful Me]

Double thread.

Mod please delete one of these.

Thanks Boss.

I did exactly as you said

The Holy Grail is not a physical cup, just as the antichrist is not one specific person. They are metaphors for something else

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
The Holy Grail is not a physical cup, just as the antichrist is not one specific person. They are metaphors for something else

but for what? something that we can not see but feel perhaps.

If its a metaphor, My best guess is...

The cup is something we can all drink from, and doing so will give us ever lasting life. This is not literal.

In other words, the cup (like the bread) represents the word and message of Christ, something anyone can listen to, practice, and pass on(ie drink and share). Doing so allows us to become one with the Father, rise up, become enlightened and enter heaven, and be with the lord. Whether that means heaven on earth (living happiness and peace) or afterwards, thats for you to decide, either way its a message.

If a last-super occured, and the speech happened (bread and blood speech) then there was probably an actual cup (like a prop used by public speakers) that Jesus used to teach his followers with that night, this is my blood, yada yada yada. The message is what was important, not the actual clay (or metal) cup.

If the cup survived and was keep as a momento, is not important.

The story of the actual grail, seems to me to be sort of middle age disinformation. Something to rally the troops if you will, something that was prolly pushed by human greed (unchrist like). The promise of eternal life if drinking a cup, is something pushed by human fear of death, greed and oversteps Christ's message.

If drinking from the cup, gave you eternal life on earth, that takes away from Christ's message, of the importance living a good honest life, for the next life.

The ultimate treasure if you will, likeThe fountain of youth. The ultimate possession if you will, which really is against Christ's message. (ie Easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, then a rich man to enter Heaven). Earthly stuff means nothing.

Just a metaphor mis-used to push people during the Crusades, that built on a life of its on, that in the end is not very Christ like.

[edit on 10-5-2007 by squidboy]

let me throw in my $.02: there is no holy grail, it's a creation of mythology, and nothing more than a folktale people used to tell each other

how about that?

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Amanita Muscaria and Religion Links

Check out these links. As you can tell by my name, I am interested in this kind of stuff.

I hope you don't discard it right away, there is much research into the topic as you will see. If you consider this idea also check out a book called "Food of the Gods" by Terence McKenna. He goes into quite a bit of detail.

Originally posted by squidboy
If its a metaphor, My best guess is...

The cup is something we can all drink from, and doing so will give us ever lasting life. This is not literal.
[edit on 10-5-2007 by squidboy]

You are right. The Holy Grail is a metaphor for Christianity.

If you drink from the cup (Follow Christ and Christianity) you will have everlasting life with God and Jesus in Heaven.

Do you mean to say that the thoeries surrounding Holy Grail are all irrelevant...?

Originally posted by LooseLipsSinkShips

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
The Holy Grail is not a physical cup, just as the antichrist is not one specific person. They are metaphors for something else

but for what? something that we can not see but feel perhaps.

i have been reading into a fascinating theory that the Holy Grail, and Christ himself were simply metaphors for the Amanita Muscaria mushroom.

There are a few good books on the subject, the first being written sometime in the 70s called the Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and another called Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy.

there is also a 2-3 hour video called the Pharmacratic Inquisition which covers the theory in detail. It can be found on google video i believe.

Why cant the holy grail be a cup you can drink from to gain eternal life?
Whats so far fetched about that. You believe in a man rising from the dead but not a cup of eternal life. Why does it have to be a metaphor for something else.

wake up
a cup you drink out of to get eternal life?

Just accept Christ

Jesus could care less about a cup he drank out of and you should too

whats next, looking for the sacred leaf he wiped his bum with?

Based on the amanita theory, it isn't really eternal life it is dying then being reborn. This can be seen as going into a hypnotic trance (resembling death) then coming to new realizations after the experience (rebirth). Also there are things about how the amanita is shaped like the cup when it is fully grown, how adding it to water can tint it red (water to wine) and many other things that you can at least do a little research into with links above.

But 'drugs' aren't very 'christian' so you will probably remain ignorant on the topic.

whats next, looking for the sacred leaf he wiped his bum with?

Tom_Roberts - Who was the above statement of yours directed at? If it was me,please let me know and I will respond.

For the Truth,
not just about the Holy Grail,
point your interrest this way
www.abdrushin-grail-message.net...
be well.