How Can We Feed The Hungry Of The World?

question, do you really need a holy building to be one with your "god"? can you not find your "god" in your self since man made god in his image.. oh sorry wrong way round (not).

Originally posted by vysage
question, do you really need a holy building to be one with your "god"? can you not find your "god" in your self since man made god in his image.. oh sorry wrong way round (not).

One does not need a Holy building to worship God. One can worship God constantly, although a Holy building helps some people.

Who created fruit and vegetable plants and trees? God. The more we are in tune with the Creator, the more we are rewarded in life. Thus, we need a blend of Spirituality and science to solve the world's hunger problem. Science without Spirituality is a sham and nonsustainable. It may solve a few immediate problems, but unlike Spirituality, it cannot rewrite a foundation nor survive the winds of change.

Originally posted by GreatTech
Who created fruit and vegetable plants and trees?

non-question, no single being is responsible for the creation of fruit and vegetable bearing flora.

God.

incorrect, and the only thing you have to support that assertion is a book that's not a science book.

The more we are in tune with the Creator, the more we are rewarded in life.

no evidence to support this... just a fanatical assertion by a religious fanatic.

Thus, we need a blend of Spirituality and science to solve the world's hunger problem.

no, spirituality is an opiate addiction that leads to a waste of resources.

Science without Spirituality is a sham and nonsustainable.

assertion, but no backing

It may solve a few immediate problems,

a FEW? yeah, you're too far gone for reason at this point

but unlike Spirituality, it cannot rewrite a foundation nor survive the winds of change.

really? science rewrote how we treat disease. people don't "lay hands on" people to cure them anymore... because it doesn't work past a possible placebo affect. we don't bleed people for every disease under the sun either. science has rewrote the foundations of how we live.

how about this: name a single problem religion has solved.

madnessinmysoul, I did not create this thread to be personally attacked. I created it to help solve an extremely serious world problem.

Do you have any scientific ideas on how to solve the extremely serious problem of world hunger besides bankrupting religion?

I think madness has given you an answer to that question already. He believes that a rational way to go about feeding people is to divert money from religion to food for them.

There's a bed and breakfast in San Francisco called the Archbishop's Mansion. I stayed there with a friend one night many years ago.

The place is Op-U-Lent. Absolutely high quality, high class, top of the line building materials. Rich and luxurious. It was built in 1904 for the Archbishop of San Francisco.

Now I fail to understand how someone high up in the Catholic church, who must have taken a vow of poverty upon becoming a priest, has the right to use up all that money to live like a king. Well, at the very least, a baronet.

Why should an Archbishop get such treatment when poor Catholics all over the world tithe their money and go without luxuries themselves? I simply find that sort of thing hypocritical, and it is rampant in almost ALL religious leaders of any kind. As a matter of fact, some of these religious cults remind me of nothing less than a pyramid scheme, with all the money funnelling upward from the everyday joes at the bottom of the pile.

The money spent to build that particular mansion could have fed thousands of poor people in the world.

What does religion really have to do with feeding the starving members of our species?

Originally posted by MajorMalfunction

What does religion really have to do with feeding the starving members of our species?

Spirituality and religion are motivations to action to feed the hungry of the world. Many who are spiritual or religious take an integral part in feeding some of the hungry.

Any scientific, philosophical, or artistic ideas on how to feed the hungry of the world?

Originally posted by GreatTech
Any scientific, philosophical, or artistic ideas on how to feed the hungry of the world?

First of all you give a hungry person food, not bibles. bibles are not edable.

[edit on 13-5-2007 by DarkSide]

I have a good friend who works for the IMF and we were debating about some issues a while ago.

One of the topics (as usual) was the global wealth distribution, anyway, I argued that all it takes is for people in wealthy nations to drop their lifestyle by 5% and (theoretically) it has merit. 5% is nothing, it might mean cutting back on some pay tv; he argued that it wouldnt be a stable solution. Due to the instability of various developing countires.

If you divided 20 billion dollars and gave it out to all those within a certain threshold, within 10 years they would have squandered the money and be in the same situation.

One of the initiatives of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) is going into developing countries and setting up housing and infrastructure. He is in Jordan working at the moment building housing for displaced persons. Due to the political instability of that region, Jordan has a high number of refugees. These homes work out to about 2.5 US dollars per square metre and so very affordable, they are state of the art computerised homes that are environmentally efficient and sustainable. They have major natural resource obstacles to overcome and the housing and technology is resolving those issues.

These homes will take people from a developing to a developed society with infrastructure designed to 'support' it. Moving from vulnerability to stability...

Africa is next in line for this development and assistance.

The G8 The Group of Eight is an international forum for the governments of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States. Together, the eight countries represent about 65 percent of the world economy. Recently, the 2005 G8 summit did write off considerable third world debt.

We will never really know if the promises actualised though...Various G8 Summits have seen promises of billions in debt-write off, but almost hardly are carried out.

That is in part the first step in reducing dependency and poverty. With the Tsunami for eg, the aid that was given was of course to be repaid at some stage. Some of the countries affected were already crippled under the strain of debts. Most people think aid is given and doesnt have to be repaid, unfortunately that is not the case. Often based on loans taken out by prior rulers and dictators (many of which various Western nations put into power to suit their interests), millions face poorer and poorer living standards as precious resources are diverted to debt repayment.
The G8 still have a long way to go but its a step in the right direction. The more pressue we apply to the G8, the better.

Until the wealthy countries completely wipe the debt, the developing countries continue to face an up hill battle.

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Originally posted by NJE777
The more pressue we apply to the G8, the better.

Until the wealthy countries completely wipe the debt, the developing countries continue to face an up hill battle.

Absolutely stunning point, and one that was overlooked in this discussion. Well said, and I agree.

NJE777, excellent reply. Globally, the G8 bears the most responsibility for ensuring that the ENTIRE world gets fed.

Individually, it is up to all of us who have an extra gram of food on our plate or an extra cent in our pocket.

Thank you for your contribution.

one good thing everyone could do is empty your pockets of change at the end of the day and put that change into a large jar. do that for a whole year and it really adds up. 60 cents here, maybe a buck there, add it up for 365 days and you've really got something. if everyone in this country did that we'd have hundreds of millions more that we could give to charity.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
one good thing everyone could do is empty your pockets of change at the end of the day and put that change into a large jar. do that for a whole year and it really adds up. 60 cents here, maybe a buck there, add it up for 365 days and you've really got something. if everyone in this country did that we'd have hundreds of millions more that we could give to charity.

But the corruption in those that receive that money is still there. It's a 2 way problem.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
one good thing everyone could do is empty your pockets of change at the end of the day and put that change into a large jar. do that for a whole year and it really adds up. 60 cents here, maybe a buck there, add it up for 365 days and you've really got something. if everyone in this country did that we'd have hundreds of millions more that we could give to charity.

madnessinmysoul, excellent idea.

Originally posted by DarkSide

But the corruption in those that receive that money is still there. It's a 2 way problem.

DarkSide, there are many excellent charities in the USA. They do not completely solve the problem, but they do help. I do not think ATS allows you to recommend specific charities, but if you do the research, you can find them.

Blessings.

Hey, you know what? I'm proud of all of us. We started off being sort of snippy and have come to an agreement!

Hooray! The believers and athiests have reached an accord. At least on one subject.

Cheers, everyone!