Tesla's murder, GHW Bush and Operation Paperclip !

I just did a google on Alan Shalleck and when I put in ats, whala it got me
here.

That might mean the links are searched as well.

Well curious isn't it.

From the referenced page:

TextOtto Skorzeny: S.S./ODESSA/CIA master spy and assassin

Friends and acquaintances of Nikola Tesla recall him complaining about Scherff�s son, George, Jr., always snooping around Tesla�s lab. On more than one occasion (probably during the late 1930s), Tesla caught the 14-year old Scherff looking at his notes, poring through his books, and stealing small items from his lab. Tesla gave him the nickname, �Curious George� and likened him to a �mischievous monkey.� According to Skorzeny, (Adolph Hitler�s former bodyguard) in a deathbed confession to Eric �Orion� (Eric Berman) in S. Miami, Florida, Tesla, �hated the younger Scherff.� In fact, according to Skorzeny, the �Curious George� book and movie were inspired by Tesla� s suggestion.

Curiously, the day before the national theatrical release of the Hollywood production of the Curious George feature length film, Alan Shalleck, the originator of Curious George (and the man in the Yellow hat), was found murdered under a pile of plastic garbage bags in his driveway in Florida at age 76. [13]

First Tesla and now Alan.

No one will make a monkey out on me.

So thats who Curious George was, people did surround Tesla with attention.
A very popular guy.
So many sneaks around in those days.

Hum, wonder how tall this Jr. fellow was, Tesla was quite tall.
Check that video and article picture... Scherff Sr, does look like
a young Prescott Bush.


[edit on 5/5/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 5/5/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

Yes, that's one of the sticky points for me. There is alot of information in the article, though for me, it was rather confusing, but maybe that's just me.

At any rate, George HW Bush looks just like his (supposed) father, Prescott. When you compare photographs, it's very obvious. I'm not discounting this theory, though, anything's possible. And Prescott was deeply involved with the Nazi's. Maybe I'm confused about what they're saying...what I'm getting is that George HW Bush was the son of George Scherf, is that correct? If so, I have to say that George looks just like his father.

I'll be doing more research on this, it's very interesting.

Hi
This link is interesting
svpvril.com...
in one of the last posts.

The first link is now
www.conspiracyplanet.com...


Regarding the idea that Tesla was broke and George H. Scherff, Sr., the
Tesla accountant., seems odd. Like he could make a lot of money just selling
Tesla documents to Germany. This is funny, he Prescott made all the money
Tesla should have made. WOW, what a thought.

I did a search on H A Margret Rey and they did originate the character
but do not have any thing except from the post that Tesla suggested the comic character, "CURIOUS GEORGE!"




[edit on 5/5/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
I did a search on H A Margret Rey and they did originate the character
but do not have any thing except from the post that Tesla suggested the comic character, "CURIOUS GEORGE!"

That's because the "information" about Alan Shalleck being the "originator" of Curious George is either a flat out lie or a case of very, very sloppy research. Curious George was created by Hans Augusto Rey and Margret Rey, without any help from either Alan Shalleck or Nikola Tesla. Completely unrelated.

In his unremarkable career, Shalleck produced low budget animated TV programs for children, and he suggested using Curious George as the subject of a TV cartoon series in 1980 — but he was in no way the "originator" of the character or concept, and he certainly was not the "Man in the Yellow Hat." That information is a totally wrong, and is such a sloppy and far-fetched bit of association that it calls into question the entire referenced material on Otto Skorzeny: S.S./ODESSA/CIA master spy and assassin.

I mean, if they can't even properly research Curious George, then how much more bogus information is contained in this particular conspiracy theory?

— Doc Velocity

Yeah Doc

Tesla was a high flier, met the richest people.

How would he meet immigrants.

Thats how I think his accountant met Walker and fell into the right
connections. Tesla knowing connected people gave his accountant
a chance to better himself by marriage into the Walker family.

If people around Tesla were up to shimming off the top of his research
and the demand was there, say in Germany, then a Germany spy
would be right in the gold mine.

Just send some document off, wait to see if they wanted more.
Yes Yes get more of that. And bank the proceeds.

Looks like the made up associations with Tesla and Bush in the mix
is a hot conspiracy topic. Documentation proves it all wrong as stated
but one forgets that and reads on into suckerville and thinks there is
a great discovery.

Made up stories with a sprinkle of history and controversy.
Its done all the time by researchers. Its interesting when they
start to agree on some events.

Hello,
First post.
One of the theories ive held for a long time is that the Dulles/Bush Gestapo/SS/CIA lineage is basically the core of the problems that are manifesting due to Americas meddling..

Operation Paperclip lead to this institution and the CIA and the war machine has kept its fangs sunk deep in Lady Libertys' jugular.

but this bit about GHWBush being Schreff..
there seems to be a bit established about his history around NE for his earlier years..
bushlibrary.tamu.edu...
yeah, these are directly from the Bush Library, but they seem to support his being in America for the years that he should be known as Schreff..

Dallas, answer for that one first Mr. President.

That could be the Walker home here in America.

Those are young pictures.
And why wouldn't he be born in America.

And why in the German Navy, and the last picture of the John Buchanan
segment might be a look alike in perhaps not a navy uniform.

But yeah I don't see how all of a sudden he is in Germany, Schreff's wife
must be in the picture, do we do know Prescott's wife picture.


That must be Schreff (Prescott?) on one slide, I thought it was Nixon.
Then who was the taller man on the right?


That was Nixon and not the Schreff Sr. in the old group picture.
The tall man is Prescott. Boy did Nixon change. Fairly sure its Nixon.




Dorothy Walker, Prescott's wife and did not check to compare with the group
picture.
The "Mother" Scherff is not a Walker.
[edit on 5/8/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 5/8/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 5/8/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

TeslaandLyne, I think you're slightly confused on one part of this conspiracy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you're under the impression that George Scherff, Sr. is alleged to have been Prescott Bush. That is not what is being alleged. The story goes that George Scherff, Jr. (George H.W. Bush) was sent to America and adopted by Prescott Bush. Forgive me if I just misread your post.

Regardless, I don't buy into this whole Scherff/Bush conspiracy. I do believe 100% that Prescott Bush was in bed financially with Nazi Germany. But if we are going to be fair about it then we should also mention a man by the name of Joseph Kennedy who also made a killing in his dealings with the Nazi's, and made every attempt to prevent America from going to war with Germany.

I don't think it was terribly uncommon for American businessmen with investments abroad to have some dealings with a western nation like Germany. The problem begins when the American government orders such business to end and the order/laws are ignored and shady practices are undertaken to keep those investments intact. But who is the American government to criticize when it sells weapons to Iraq AND Iran while they are at war with each other!!

I am in no way saying that I condone what Prescott Bush or Joseph Kennedy did. It just shouldn't be all that surprising to anyone, especially considering the fact that they were POLITICIANS! They are genetically pre-determined to be crooks!

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Hi
This link is interesting
svpvril.com...
in one of the last posts.

The first link is now
www.conspiracyplanet.com...


Regarding the idea that Tesla was broke and George H. Scherff, Sr., the
Tesla accountant., seems odd. Like he could make a lot of money just selling
Tesla documents to Germany. This is funny, he Prescott made all the money
Tesla should have made. WOW, what a thought.

I did a search on H A Margret Rey and they did originate the character
but do not have any thing except from the post that Tesla suggested the comic character, "CURIOUS GEORGE!"




[edit on 5/5/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

I think what people are confusing is that Prescott is not George Scherff Sr. Prescott Bush is just Prescott Bush. George Scherff Sr. is George Scherff Sr. It's George H. Scherff Jr. that is the key here. Prescott Bush, according to this theory, adopted George H. Scherff Jr. and forged the papers to show that he was his naturally born child. That's what is being implicated.

So Prescott didn't make any money from the Tesla thievery. It would have been Scherff and then George Jr. and his family. It even claims that Barbara Pierce holds the patent to Tesla's electric car where it draws its electrical energy from the 'ether' as Tesla is claimed to have accomplished. Free energy. Barbara Pierce is of course Bush Sr.s wife. So now we may begin to see where many of the documents went if this outlandish claim turns out to be true.

*edit*: Doh, should have just read through and I would have seen the last post.

[edit on 9-5-2007 by dariousg]

Well apparently, not mentioned in this web page, although hinted
at in popular conspiracy videos, if you allow me, P Bush backed Nixon
as Nixon smiles in one photo together with P Bush.

P Bush, was he a true Nazi spy plus investor whereas J Kennedy was
an investor but not one to undermine America. P Bush advised President
Eisenhower on what topics as one photo indicated a meeting.

Or a toss as to who wanted the most power. FDR apparently controlled
J Kennedy a lot better than P Bush.

Lyne called Kennedy part of the Illuminati of that time. Even hinted at
Joe Jr plane mishap as cover to a deal in neutral Switzerland.

The whole Tesla story may be nonsence but the dissemination of Tesla's
ideas, which may not have been that uncommon to scientific thought
in Europe and Germany, as being spy worthy makes sense.
Why not add to the data base and get what Tesla has. So anyone
close to Tesla from Germany is too tempting not to be a spy.
If the FBI's capture of Tesla's lab the disappearance at an Air Force
base means Top Secret, it meant Top Secret to anyone else and very
important. Tesla's boasting meant something to some one.

Perhaps not the same person but in a close working relationship.

We are not going into a Cold Case for Tesla now are we.
Some things can't be done. Was Tesla strangled as was stated at
the web page.

You see it is a National Security risk to know as much about Tesla
as to expose what really happened. The notes, the people, photos
of Tesla, movies of Tesla with people we might be able to trace.
Such a popular and news worthy person, there is more on Edison
a true Illuminati.

The Tesla ignition coil was powerful for early automobiles, powerful
enough for a Helium engine as well. Any input on that front.
I think so. Not entirely needed for UFO saucer propulsion as many
in Mexico spout a dirty exhaust.

Thanks for those posts above.

I'm checking this one:

I think what people are confusing is that Prescott is not George Scherff Sr. Prescott Bush is just Prescott Bush. George Scherff Sr. is George Scherff Sr. It's George H. Scherff Jr. that is the key here. Prescott Bush, according to this theory, adopted George H. Scherff Jr. and forged the papers to show that he was his naturally born child. That's what is being implicated.

So Prescott didn't make any money from the Tesla thievery. It would have been Scherff and then George Jr. and his family. It even claims that Barbara Pierce holds the patent to Tesla's electric car where it draws its electrical energy from the 'ether' as Tesla is claimed to have accomplished. Free energy. Barbara Pierce is of course Bush Sr.s wife. So now we may begin to see where many of the documents went if this outlandish claim turns out to be true.

*edit*: Doh, should have just read through and I would have seen the last post.

Bad in relations. So Scherff Jr was adopted by P Bush.

Now German born to American born.

Also close to Tesla.

I like that.

Got that patent number, it was not submitted by Tesla.
The plans may be in her possession.

[edit on 7/24/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 7/24/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

Hello,
First post.
One of the theories ive held for a long time is that the Dulles/Bush Gestapo/SS/CIA lineage is basically the core of the problems that are manifesting due to Americas meddling..

Operation Paperclip lead to this institution and the CIA and the war machine has kept its fangs sunk deep in Lady Libertys' jugular.

but this bit about GHWBush being Schreff..
there seems to be a bit established about his history around NE for his earlier years..
bushlibrary.tamu.edu...
yeah, these are directly from the Bush Library, but they seem to support his being in America for the years that he should be known as Schreff..

Dallas, answer for that one first Mr. President.

We were sleeping with the enemy, I mean infiltrated by Germany immigrants for quite some time. Some powerful, some not. Some open about allegiance to the Third Reich, some not.

I like the idea the carnival was a spy organization. But after WWII
the appearance of Dulles as an amazing power broker is phenomenal.

Your ideas are reflected in many web pages and controversial, and true,
videos.

reply to post by Rasputin13

That is not what is being alleged. The story goes that George Scherff, Jr. (George H.W. Bush) was sent to America and adopted by Prescott Bush. Forgive me if I just misread your post.

So perhaps born in Germany... perhaps both were born in Germany and
given cover by some sort of super spy ring.

Osama's boys just went to Florida and got drivers licenses but left
in a hurry.

What if the technology Tesla only spoke of WAS being developed elsewhere
with the help of spies in America and the result was electrical generation
devices and the UFO flying craft. Just to name some suspected devices,
toss in crop circle and cattle mutilation beams... and Taser...if you want.

Passing up on a lead like that is as bad as thinking hand cuffs strangled
someone. You know, they would because its impossible and placing
someone in that position would surely do it.

The Tesla murder fits, even though it fits conspiracy theory only.

reply to post by Alpha Grey


Thanks for the insight on Tarpley. And your verdict on the Tesla was murdered scenario is? Appreciated. Serena

I have often wondered where that bunch ever came from.

Just thought that I would contribute this to theconversation.

cannonfire.blogspot.com...

To the OP you mentioned that Hitler lived to 107 in Montana. Where did you get that from. I read the entire article you posted and didn't see that, maybe I overlooked it. In any case could you please post a link or a quote from the original source?

Thanks!!!

reply to post by 12.21.12


I am indignant about the whole mess surrounding operation "Paperclip.' I love my country but since the days of Jefferson, Washington, Adams and a few other good men, we seem to be going full-circle back to the "Inqusitory Times' and Kingships/Dictatorships. The demolition of our Democracy by Kingpin Rats and evil corporationshas been going on for over a century but I always assumed when I was a younger man and enlisted in the Marine Corps that we were waring against dictators and tyrants and not good countries like ourselves (sic). Myabe it is the water or more likely, the way we learn about our own history as given in the school textbooks. Or maybe it is 'Mass Conditioning' which I now know in my 70's rings loud and clear. Nevertheless, not only am I indignanat about 'Paperclip' and the influx of Nazi's here in the USA before, during and after WW2 and South America (Remeber "The Boy's From Brazil 'movie?) but way back with Nikola Tesla.
I have most of Tesla's books and writings because he is one of my favorite scientists of all time. likley first. Yet, even I had no clue that a Hitler bodyguard was his top aid and if Tesla really was killed, possibly involved. The word 'Conspiracy' wasn't created without just cause. In particular, I try to refrain from using the word when it comes to labeling so many American leaders abd businessmen as guilty without good, solid evidence. I also want to know the credentials about those who trumpet the conspiracy call so much',either doing it for publicity, ego, or money.
Don't get me wrong; I do understand what Eisenhower and Jefferson said concerning our own government and in the former's case, his dire warning about our country being ruled by a 'Military Industrial Complex' seems to have come true. Jefferson no less warned about having our rights decimated by those within our own government and that we must always be vigilant and protect our Consitution. I once again concur that much of these insidious deeds are and have occurred to my dismay. And naturally, the numerous conspiracy lists go on and on and though many never make the light of day, the'Paperclip' conspiracy should have been shouted from state-to-state, city-to-city and township-to-township.
The 'Paperclip' operation seems to be such a cruel metaphor for continuing instead of shutting down the Nazi 3rd Reich. It even has me guessing about a possible 4th Reich. And if the factual evidence of 'Trading With The Enemy' doesn't move us like an earthquake then I don't know what will. Conceding to the fact that newspaper, radio and tv and other media outlets are controlled by such a few mogul's like Murdock, Disney, et., I have to admit that though inconclusive, there is evidence of a 'New World Order' shaping up. Just the price of gas and heaalthcare tends to weigh heavy in that direction. Tell me if I am wrong but has any of the major media really given adequate coverage ( or none) to some of these events?
About the Bush's. I voted for Geroge in 2000. I was clueless about the family's history. I doubt 1000% that anyone would do some DNA testing to affirm the family genetic history. But most of all, I am boiling over mad about Sherif and the Nazi's involvement with Nikola Tesla. Just how that could happen leaves me speechless (okay to type).
In closing, I would like to think that we could be independent of oil, gas, and any other energy that suffocates our environment by getting serious about Tesla's work with EM. That, along with Heavinly and his EM and others that have been barely covered by Electrical Engineering textbooks over the last century. Poynter's stuff just isn't good enough for the coming decades. After all, we know for a fact that a stripped down 59 Opel won the '73 Shell contest (376milepergallon.com). And Tesla set the stage for no need of gas. Nuff said. Tex

Quick note folks for anyone that was still wondering if the George Scherff name drop was real or not .. I went through my patents and his name is listed on some of tesla's patents. That should be proof enough for anyone from the us patent office. The rest im not sure but a very plausable story about the theft of notes and other anemities.. Seems like a bush family action.
Joe

I don't think there was anything sinister about Operation Paperclip. Distasteful for sure, but it was also necessary or else USSR would have scooped up all the scientists for themselves.

Let's face it, the Germans were smart and more advanced in a lot of areas. There was a race at the end of WWII to secure this knowledge by both the USSR and the US. Had the US stood back and let the Soviets get all the scientists then this world would be a much different place.

Originally posted by forestlady
I read about this on some internet site I stumbled upon about 6 months ago. I read about it, and then pretty much dismissed it as a hoax or some such. But now, seeing it in a mainstream paper in Idaho, and the fact that Webster Tarpley is researching it, gives alot more credence to it. Mind you, not that I trust everything Tarpley says. It did a pretty good job of smearing my father in one of his books - said things about him that were patently untrue. In fact, my family and I are looking into a lawsuite against him for defamation of character and lible.
Anyhow, I'm downloading the article and will read shortly. Afterwards, I'll get back with my opinion and observations.

Good find, thanks!

The Idaho Observer is certainly NOT a mainstream newspaper. Its more like the National Enquiror these days except there is a lot of truth in their stories.

Its not a daily paper. It comes out once a month.

Articles tend to focus on the constitution, Ron Paul, Bigfoot (lots of sightings in northern idaho), a silver depository for liberty bell dollars (their response to fed money), and most conspiracies.

Its based out in Northern Idaho. I live in southern Idaho, about 6 hr drive from the northern panhandle area up north. Its like a totally different country up there.

Link to their news site..

proliberty.com...