Are UFO Fleet videos serious evidence, or just another example of disinformation???

Recently I have stumbled across a number of videos on Youtube and elsewhere that allegedly depict "UFO Fleets"... While I am a true believer in life elsewhere, and that extraterrestrial craft have visited earth, something seems fishy...

Here is an example...

UFO Fleet?

I've watched it numerous times. To me, it looks like a balloon release... you can see them wobbling in the wind, and some even seem tangled... I've posted comments to this, and the guy who posted videos went on a rampage, calling me a "dis-info agent"...

Another example...

Ufo Fleet #2

Now, even though they show LOW FLYING birds in comparison, clearly this is flocks of birds/geese migrating, and flying at higher altitudes... Again, if you try to debate, you're dismissed as a "non-believer"...

My whole adult life I've been fasicinated by UFO's, the paranormal, you name it... Yet, these UFO Fleet videos to me seem like "disinformation"... I was even attacked on Youtube for not knowing who Arturo Robles Gil is, as if he's the seond coming of UFO experts...

I'd like a little feedback, discussion and opinions about what the folks here think. Has the UFO world become so filled with fanatics that no one can refute any "evidence" without being attacked? Check out the first link and Detachment3's comments... he's fantical...

I have seen very good UFO video over the years, and there is much compelling evidence, but these fleets seem to be nothing but balloons, geese, or other explainable earthly objects... Have any of these videos been seriously studied, and/or debunked???



[edit on 30-4-2007 by djdave2010]

yea i think your right in both cases. #1 is ballons and #2 is geese migrating. i think if ETs wanted to show themselves they would do so in a much neater formation or pattern if they were in those numbers to show their intelligence. these are the kind of videos that kinda make the topic a joke to most of the public=(

See, that's whta I think. The guy posting the first video on Youtube went bonzai on me for even questioning it's authenticity. He riduled me for spelling errors, and even got a little verbally abusive...

My belief, after being interested in this subject for over 20 years, is that folks like this do nothing but make the debate itself and those who "believe" look foolish... There is real evidence out there, and floating dots in the sky, obvious bird flocks, and other "UFO Fleets" are highly questionable at best...

In video #1 I posted a link to, at about 1:10, you can even see 2 balloons intertwined... It'slaughable really, but the people posting this stuff for wide viewership on Youtube seem a little off their rockers...

Yes, the "videos" are real, otherwise they probably would not play on your computer.

As far as the "objects" in these videos being actual SpaceShips flying around with Aliens in them....... I highly doubt it...

Sorry, I did mean the objects and their identity. I'll edit my title... if I can!

Sorry, I did mean the objects and their identity. I'll edit my title... if I can!

definately birds or geese, w/e, in the second video. the first one idk, id have to say balloons as well but dang, who releases that many balloons like that?

i saw another video on Youtube of a kids party where they released hundreds of balloons at a party... The higher they rose, the more they looked like "UFO's"...

I'd love to see some real analysis of these "fleet" vids, but haven't found any yet.

This reminds me of a "UFO Fleet" video that was posted on here maybe about a year ago. It was a video of a bunch of objects hovering above Spain. (I think it was Spain)

Anyways, the objects resembled balloons to me, but the elevation of the objects made it basically impossible to truly tell what they were. So basically everyone that viewed the video came to the conclusion that they weren't balloons and must be some sort of crafts.

Later on in the same thread, a news article was posted of some sort of celebration event in Spain where they released hundreds, if not thousands, of white, red, and blue balloons. These balloons were released on the same day as the "sighting" so I think it was pretty obvious what the objects were.

The point is, don't get all excited when watching a video that seems to be compelling, but might have a logical explanation... because most likely it will be the logical explanation that surfaces and you will feel kind of stupid for originally believing otherwise...

I allways wonder why in movies like these, if they are supposed to be real ufo's, the airforce never shows up to see wth is going on. Anyway, i'm pretty sure they are Balloons and Birds. If he believes they are UFO's, good for him.

It's always poor vid cam footage... They're never any frame of reference...



Who is Arturo Robles Gil? Is he credible? This Detachment3 nutjob on Youtube certainly isn't, and all I've found so far on Arturo Robles Gil is a bunch of questionable footage with no real objective investigations to back up his claims...

Anyone here familiar with him? Perhaps he works at a balloon factory?

I have been thinking about doing an experiment:
Get the biggest balloon I can find, put some leds on it, and release it during a windy summer day.

I wonder what would happen.....

Originally posted by R3KR
I have been thinking about doing an experiment:
Get the biggest balloon I can find, put some leds on it, and release it during a windy summer day.

I wonder what would happen.....

Gee... what do you think will happen? A bunch of morons will videotape it and post it here saying it's a "UFO" lol...

I don't get why more people haven't tried this balloon expirement. Even I tried once. I took some balloons out to the old Alameda Naval Base and let them go. Sure enough, as they got high enough and far enough away, they looked like little orbs/spheres that would easily be mistaken for "crafts."

Don't tell this stuff to the guy on Youtube whose video I comment on... he'll call your a moron, a maggot, a "Yank" and, hold on to your hats...

A DISINFORMAATION AGENT!!!

Those video's were pretty far away to tell if they were orbs or balloons. There's much better video's of actual orbs out there. Since I have seen them myself, I can attest that they do exist. I've seen them one at a time, two at a time, about 9 of them flying in a V formation and I've seen about 30 of them flying in a tight group all in the last couple months. Since I have seen them always associated wih the massive Chemspraying going on around here, I'm convinced they are Government/Military made and are doing some sort of surveillance during the spraying activities.

I don't discount the UFO phenom, but these things, in my opinion are man-made. Your guess is as good as mine as to why the Government would fly them in such larger groups where they would be seen and filmed and thought of as UFO's though.

[edit on 1-5-2007 by selfless]

Do you have a comment to go with the video clip? I'm just wondering... although I still think it's balloons, but am open to any explanation...

[edit on 1-5-2007 by selfless]

Originally posted by djdave2010
Do you have a comment to go with the video clip? I'm just wondering... although I still think it's balloons, but am open to any explanation...

Let me try to find you the longer version of this video where you see the ufo's doing formations and coming out of that weird looking ufo you see in the video i posted above.

Here is a longer version.

I will try to find the video of a Mexico ufo conference, it's very good and in the middle they show a bunch of these ufo fleets.