Semi Transparent UFO!

Originally posted by -ufo-
I finaly ran and grabbed my roomates camera and I took this picture.

No. I don't think you did this in a hurry. The framing of both photos is identical — while the "UFO" has moved slightly to the right from one photo to the next, look at the position of the trees relative to the distant mountain line.



These two photos would have to be taken from a locked-in tripod mount, pointing in exactly the same direction from exactly the same position for both shots.

That's IF these are actually 2 separate photos. Which I doubt.

— Doc Velocity

Thanks for throwing up the side by side comparison Doc. I had done this on my PC, and thats what got me thinking about how the two images very well could be the same image.

I was just too lazy to cut the pics, upload 'em somewhere and make the post. lol Good job.

EDIT: You know, often times a PNG has layering and effect/filter data built into it... has anybody tried to open this in PhotoShop/Fireworks yet? It would be interesting to see if any editing layers are still there! lol I'd do it, but I recently wiped my PC down and haven't bothered to um buy the programs again.

[edit on 5/1/2007 by damajikninja]

Nice catch, Doc. Hey, could you give me an opinion on what I describe on the last page of the 'french' UFO vid? I need some confirmation/thoughts on it.

Edit: "Ufo over France, multiple vids" it's called.

[edit on 1-5-2007 by Drexon]

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
These two photos would have to be taken from a locked-in tripod mount, pointing in exactly the same direction from exactly the same position for both shots.

That's IF these are actually 2 separate photos. Which I doubt.

— Doc Velocity

Sorry Doc, you're wrong (though the embossed ufo is still fake of course)..see my previous post.. the difference is subtle I will admit... I can prove it if you guys don't believe me.. though I'd rather not waste more time on this hoax if I can help it, and i don't have a quick an easy way to make animated gifs on my system at the mo.

-ufo- is probably reading this having a right good laugh at our expense...

I you ask though I will. (and bein ATS I should expect you to I guess) .but it will take a while...

Originally posted by Drexon
Hey, could you give me an opinion on what I describe on the last page of the 'french' UFO vid? I need some confirmation/thoughts on it.

After looking over the vids, I'm inclined to think that these are images of an actual object low in the sky — it appears to be capable of perfectly stable hover, as well as tightly-controlled stop and start maneuvers. Umm, a kite maybe? A modified RC helicopter? A military black op or an extraterrestrial vehicle? Exactly what the object is and its exact dimensions can't really be discerned without triangulating from the multiple angles. If it's a fake, taking into account the video artifacts, then it's a damned good fake. I wouldn't discount it out-of-hand.

Sorry for going off-topic here.

— Doc Velocity

Originally posted by nowthenlookhere
Sorry Doc, you're wrong...

No, I'm not. I tried the "find six differences between these photos" approach, and I did see tiny differences in lighting and angle, but these differences are relatively insignificant and could be a byproduct of photo manipulation (since we're fairly certain that we're talking about a manipulated photo anyway).

I'm sticking with the tripod theory, if these are indeed 2 separate photos. And that's the last I'm going to contribute to this long-overdue-for-deletion thread.

— Doc Velocity

im back...

and wow, again, so disapointed of how far people will reach and lie to prove something is not real. Give up people, this is a genuine picture. I didn't put it here for you to debate it, because its real, I put it here for you all to see.

You guys are wanna be photo analysts and you couldn't be farther from truth, and you believe it all, thats very funny.


First, my camera was pointed directly at the ufo, with the ufo in the center on BOTH photographs. The ufo was generaly in the same spot on both photos, and I am standing in one spot, not moving, with the camera in my eye at 6 feet tall. I take a picture, zoom in, and 5 seconds later take another, without moving my hand. So it would appear to be a tripod, but it is NOT.

Second, those trees and hills with the house on it is about a quarter mile away. Of course its going to look like its in the same spot on both pictures. Thats like taking a picture of the moon, moving 5 feet and taking it again, it would appear the the moon is always in the same spot on both pictures because its so far away. Got it? Its an illusion.

Third, I don't own photoshop, but do have MS Paint.

Fourth, the camera I used stores both JPG AND PNG images for EACH PICTURE, and when I interface the camera to my computer, a folder pops up with a compressed ZIP file. Inside of it is the compressed images.

These are the originals. I wish I could give you more info about the camera, but I swear there are no markings on it except "ZOOM". Its like an OEM version straight from a factory, before some third party company puts their name on it.

I'm glad that the Tripod issue is off the table now. I couldn't
envision you grabbing one and attaching a chepo camera in
a few seconds.

So assuming that the photo is of a REAL UFO, what next?
That's the question I ask myself after every sighting. What
can we do? I think it's all in the hands of the government
or the Alien visitors to disclose the existance. Otherwise,
it's just a bunch of us saying "Yep..that looks like a real
one!", which has no effect on the world what-so-ever.

Thanks for coming back and giving additional info, UFO.
Some members will continue to doubt what you're saying,
but that's normal in life. You can't please everyone and
shouldn't even try. There are better things to do. -cwm

mods/admin, are you going to ban this poster? seems like an awful waste of time to doctor a photo and post it on this site and claim it's real... it's a shame.

I'm sorry -ufo-, but this is too convinient for a hoaxer. Please shut us all up and post the original pic, or even a photo of the camera used. Otherwise, nobody will have any time for you here. This is not some sort of place where close minded idiots hang out. We have given you enough chances now (imo) and it's now not convineient for your story, because it was BS all along... Unless you could and still can easily show otherwise, I will not be holding my breath.

[edit on 2-5-2007 by Xeros]

Originally posted by -ufo-
Fourth, the camera I used stores both JPG AND PNG images for EACH PICTURE, and when I interface the camera to my computer, a folder pops up with a compressed ZIP file. Inside of it is the compressed images.

sweet, then post the jpg, this WILL have the exif data on it.

or... let me guess.. its already been deleted, or your mate lost the camera and you could only get the png off it.

Originally posted by -ufo-
wow, again, so disapointed of how far people will reach and lie to prove something is not real.

So far, I don't believe anyone has proven anything. And that goes double for yourself. You're the one who brought this photo forward, claimed that it was something extraordinary — the responsibility falls on your shoulders to prove that your sighting was legit. Stamping your feet and calling us liars and shouting This is real, dammit! is not proof.

All we've done is what we always do — hope that it's real but expect it to be a hoax. What, did you imagine we'd be so awestruck by an indistinct still photo that we'd ask no hard questions? Get in line, there are about a million ahead of you.

— Doc Velocity

-ufo- if you would put as much effort into answering our questions and proving your pictures real as you do trying to insult the naysayers...

Seriously - it dosnt matter how many stories you tell, or who you shake your finger at... this photo still has NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT ITS AUTHENTICITY.

As I have said for 5 pages now... I would love for this pic to be real, but you are doing a piss poor job of proving that to us.

I hope you never have to defend yourself in a court of law... sheesh.

Either provide what everyone above me is asking for or be prepared to be labeled as a hoaxer. This is not a place were people look at a picture and jump to conclusion where omg a ufo picture its gota be real. People here like to see hard evidence not pictures that any smuck with a computer and some skills can make. I was sorta on your side but when you failed to provide any details or evidence to back up this pic I have leaned toward the possibility this is a fake. It is very simple to provide the information people are asking for yet you fail to do so. I wonder why, because maybe you don't want to be caught red handed in a lie.

Again provide the evidence and people will shut up.

I can't believe I even wasted my time posting it here. You guys are too hard headed.

So here is what you are supposed to do...

If you believe I faked these photos, then do many of us a favor and hit the "Back" button untill you leave this thread. If you do not believe this photo is real, then state your opinion, and go away. So the people that DO believe, like me, that is real, can discuss how their cloaking device works.

I put these pictures up, to discuss how the heck they would be able to "cloak", or become "transparent". Because I have VIDEO PROOF that these transparent UFO's are REAL.

I did NOT put these pictures up for them to go on trial, with trial quality f'in evidence.

On top of that, you guys label/keyword this topic with UNPROVEN words.

Nobody has proven these are fake. As well as I can not prove these are real. I for one know that no matter what, even when I do give you the JPG file, you will STILL not believe.

So I really can f'n care less if you believe or not at this point, but I DO care that you guys put FALSE KEYWORDS and on this topic based on ZERO EVIDENCE OF IT BEING FAKE.

I see ATS is full of disinfo agents that work a little to hard.

[edit on 3-5-2007 by -ufo-]

[edit on 3-5-2007 by -ufo-]

-ufo-

Of course we are going to "put your picture on trial" - do you really think we are just going to take your word for it? Um, no.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It is also rather funny that you want the people that are looking for proof to go away. So you only want to talk to the people that just believe you at your word...? Are you serious? I know we've given you a hard time, but you really haven't been playing ball with us.

Look man, we want to talk about their ability to cloak as well. But we need to know that the picture is real first. And I'm afraid that you won't find anybody here on ATS that will just "believe it cuz you say so". ATS is full of rational thinkers and world class analysts. We don't operate on a hunch. Although if we did that, we'd be qualified to run the Iraq war...

Really dude, there is no reason to get all huffy. It is perfectly reasonable for us to question your pictures. You have to understand that there have been literally thousands of hoaxed/faked photos. Before we get excited and start theorizing about cloaking devices and how many cup holders it has, we want to make sure the picture is authentic first. That way no one is wasting their time. That is all.

Nothing personal. Just denying ignorance.

So on that note, you say you have the original JPGs from the ZOOM camera... Would you mind throwing those up here for us? Thank you!

[edit on 5/3/2007 by damajikninja]

Originally posted by damajikninja
We don't operate on a hunch.

aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahaha that was a joke right? Get a life. This entire thread was based and judged and decided on a HUNCH by you wanna be debunkers, with zero proof.


Go ahead and not believe these pictures. Serious, go for it. It doesn't effect me in any possible way. It only effects YOU, because YOU will just be busy following the other sheep.

I already know these pictures are 100% genuine, and I even have video evidence of transparent ufo's. So whatever any of you say from here on out is just going to be non sense disinfo disbelief.


Truth is stranger than ficiton, just to let you know.

Originally posted by -ufo-
...with zero proof.

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Ok I'm done.

I tried. I really did. Guys back me up on this.

I think its about time to call the MODs

[edit on 5/3/2007 by damajikninja]

Theres your JPG. Now go cry to mommy when you find out UFO's are real.


[edit on 3-5-2007 by -ufo-]

No EXIF data...

Originally posted by -ufo-
Now go cry to mommy...

Done.

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[edit on 5/3/2007 by damajikninja]