Bring back the thread views column

Originally posted by Rockpuck
I dun wanna "flag the mutha"

Then don't "flag the mutha". If you don't want to "flag the mutha" or if you don't know how the "flag the mutha" don't "flag the mutha". No one is forcing you with "flag the mutha". I was saying people could "flag the mutha" if they wanted to and you could see how much attention your thread has gotten by the amount of flags the "mutha" has gotten.


"Flag the mutha"!

See what you started Dave?

I have to agree it was extremely useful, and kinda fundamental.

That being said, we wouldn't want the amigos to spend more of their hard earned cash just because we outspoken atsers dislike server optimizations.

Originally posted by enjoies05

Originally posted by Rockpuck
I dun wanna "flag the mutha"

Then don't "flag the mutha". If you don't want to "flag the mutha" or if you don't know how the "flag the mutha" don't "flag the mutha". No one is forcing you with "flag the mutha". I was saying people could "flag the mutha" if they wanted to and you could see how much attention your thread has gotten by the amount of flags the "mutha" has gotten.


"Flag the mutha"!

See what you started Dave?

The point of the views collumn was to see how many people read your work in total without any "flaggin the mutha" going on..

If you don't like the thread, you don;t "flag the mutha" and with out "flaggin the mutha" you may think no one liked your work, but someone still read it, without "flaggin the mutha" but you wouldnt know that, because they didnt "flag the mutha". And then you have 1. new people and 2. non subcribers who read material and don't "flag the mutha" or cant "flag the mutha" or simply do not "flag the mutha" .. "flaggin the mutha" has simply not caught on, and I am sure it most likely never will.. I see great threads all the time with 2-5 "mutha flags" when they people shoulda "flagged the mutha" 50 times. "Flaggin the mutha" just seems like a horrible stat to see whos reading your material.. I have alot of threads people don't respond to, but I feel better knowing X amount of people read it. "flaggin the mutha" takes that away, and is reduced to, who liked your thread enough to "flag the mutha"..

As of this post.... NO ONE "Flagged THIS Mutha".

Guess that says it all.......

Dave

Why doesnt someone answer some of these questions? Why was it taken away? Cant u still flag and have a counter?

Originally posted by Dave Rabbit
As of this post.... NO ONE "Flagged THIS Mutha".

Guess that says it all.......

Dave

LOL dave, seriously nothing against your slogan.

The truth is actually, I am jealous I do not have such a slogan, a cool term to put in my threads to get people to flag it. I can't say "Flag the mutha" or "Flag this mutha" or "flag this" because thats just lame.

PS I will not flag this thread, just to make a point of things. I viewed it though.

[edit on 4/26/2007 by Rockpuck]

ah yes Dave has single handedly shown us the folly of our ways. This also shows us the importance of thread flagging. So when you see a thread you like and even if you don't reply "Flag the mutha"

Thanks for single handedly changing the lexicon of internet flagging everywhere Dave.

Look when i started doing the scarecrow reports and still am.I would recieve little if not any replies telling me how cool or awesome they are.

That was fine cause many of them were at 1000 plus views. There is no way that 1000 views plus doesnt tell me they were popular.Even if there were no replies.In fact scarecrow report 1 almost reached 1500 views before the "views" was taken away.

The views was one of the only reasons i kept making them,even if there was no real response the guage of views atleast told me what i was doin mattered.

With them gone its hard for me to even know if they are worth putting on ats.

Not saying that i need recognition but when im spending 100 hours plus to make a podcast.It would be nice to see if anyone is listening.In a way to know if i should keep on keeping on.
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[edit on 10-5-2007 by toraylin]

I miss this feature so much...........I loved seeing how many people had clicked on my threads.
I liked seeing how popular certain threads are.......


I miss this allot.



...........................................just sayin

My vote too for bringing back the views.

When the reason for their disappearence is given "server load problems" I once more like to bring forward my suggeation appearing in the mainthread on the change. Display them in hundreds thus the server only have to refresh one time in hundred.

Should take 99 percent off the strain on server. Or what... ?

Thank you Implosion,

Yes bring it back, it was such a nice feature.

WIS

Originally posted by WalkInSilence
Thank you Implosion

You're most welcome.

Originally posted by toraylin
Not saying that i need recognition but when im spending 100 hours plus to make a podcast.It would be nice to see if anyone is listening.In a way to know if i should keep on keeping on.

That's exactly what I'm talking about toraylin, you expressed it a lot better than I did, thanks for that.

Ok, I'll join the rebel brigade.

Seriously though, I liked the thread view feature, it was very helpful, and told me that my
threads were'nt falling on deaf eyes.

Plus, I really don't like thread flagging, as it is generally only certain groups that flag
threads, and only of certain subjects.

I don't think thread flagging is ever going to really catch on, that is we are not going to see
a thread with hundreds of flags, unless it's a very old thread, and is of a very interesting subject.

[edit on 5/11/2007 by iori_komei]

Originally posted by iori_komei
I don't think thread flagging is ever going to really catch on, that is we are not going to see
a thread with hundreds of flags, unless it's a very old thread, and is of a very interesting subject.

We could have that already, somewhere. (100 flags)

Here is a thread with 64 flags.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

oops! forgot link.

[edit on 5/11/2007 by Mechanic 32]

Originally posted by Mechanic 32

We could have that already, somewhere. (100 flags)

Here is a thread with 64 flags.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

oops! forgot link.

I don't know why flags are being discussed here.

The views column gave people such as myself and toraylin an idea of how many people are compelled to click on the podcasts we spend literally hundreds of hours making. I honesty couldn't give a damn about how many flags they get. They'll never be the top of any flag charts. That's not the point. I have never looked on this as some kind of popularity contest.

If you have a look at my podcasts now, you wont find any with more than 5 flags, am I to assume that no more than 5 people have taken the time to view? I'm not expecting anything I do to have any sort of mass appeal, nor am I going to assume that this community as a whole is going to take a blind bit of notice. The views column gave me an insight [at a glance] into what kind of reach they did have. That's all.

Perhaps I should get myself a troop of fans together to "Flag the mutha" en masse? Where would the honesty be in that?

I'm not trying to turn this into a flags vs views debate.

I'm not trying to demand anything either, I am a guest here. I'm just seeing if there is anyone like me, who misses this feature. By the looks of it, no there isn't very many at all.

Originally posted by Implosion
I don't know why flags are being discussed here.

Sorry for the OT.

I'm not trying to turn this into a flags vs views debate.

Personally I was only responding to a previous poster.

But I too miss the "Views" column.

ok - my views have NOT changed , but in the intrests of the wishes of many members , there is a solution

bring back " thread views tally "

BUT

only refresh it daily

is that workable / possible ??

the atated reason for its removal was server load

would server load be reduced if the thread views were only calculated once / 24 hours - as opposed to real time ?

maybee the fine members who want the thread views back should look into the mechanics of how it works - and petition SO to consider a rethink

EDIT : the ghost of " msaqua " visited me - and reminded me of the T&C

[edit on 14-5-2007 by ignorant_ape]

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
would server load be reduced if the thread views were only calculated once / 24 hours - as opposed to real time ?

The issue is database writes. No matter how often we show the total, we still need to write to the database each time a thread is viewed.

On any given day, we experience an average of more than 5.5 threads viewed per-second by human users, and more than 4 per second by Internet spiders (we don't count those). Peak periods can be twice as busy.

We're in the midst of planning a migration to a serious server farm that includes a cluster of load-balanced servers, dedicated media servers, and monsterous database servers. But even then I can be certain we'd restore view tallying.

In Java you could create an object that would keep track of this information and only update the database periodically. Could that be done in PHP?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
The issue is database writes. No matter how often we show the total, we still need to write to the database each time a thread is viewed.

Does this mean, as it is now, you don't know how many who views the single threads?