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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Originally posted by lostinspace
Originally posted by lostinspace
I never thought that the 33rd parallel line might be the source of why the number is holy. I find it interesting that that the ancient city of Tyre is located on the 33rd parallel line. King Hiram of Tyre assisted King Solomon of Israel in building the Temple. The people of Tyre are known as the Phoenicians who were great sea farers. Then there is the modern day Phoenix, Arizona which resides on the 33rd parallel line as well. What is so special about that location?
www.world-mysteries.com...
Except, of course, the fact that Masonry has never used an eye in a pyramid as a symbol. And that the tenets of Masonry are fundamentally against tyranny in all forms. And the fact that that Masons had nothing to do with designing the Great Seal.
Originally posted by Jinni
Look.
Whether the 1 dollar bill has secret messages or not is irrelevent.
The actual sympols of tyranny, masonary is there in plan view! The pyramid with the eye.
What more could anyone else want?
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Except, of course, the fact that Masonry has never used an eye in a pyramid as a symbol. And that the tenets of Masonry are fundamentally against tyranny in all forms. And the fact that that Masons had nothing to do with designing the Great Seal.
Originally posted by Jinni
Look.
Whether the 1 dollar bill has secret messages or not is irrelevent.
The actual sympols of tyranny, masonary is there in plan view! The pyramid with the eye.
What more could anyone else want?
But excepting those points, I agree with your assessment that "Whether the 1 dollar bill has secret messages or not is irrelevent."
Quite.
Originally posted by Jinni
Are you sure?
Did you even read your own source?
I think that the eye of providence which is depicted in the 1 dollar IS part of the iconography of Freemasonry.
See here:
en.wikipedia.org...
and
The Masonic use of the Eye does not incorporate a pyramid, although the enclosing triangle is often interpreted as one.
Some Masonic organizations have explicitly denied any special connection to the original creation of the Seal. Frequently cited as public evidence to this are the claims that the pyramid portion of the seal holds no symbolic significance to Masons, and that records suggest the Eye of Providence was not adopted as a Masonic symbol until 1797, after it was adopted for use in the Great Seal.
Perhaps you can name WHO is part of this "cult" and enlighten us? Masons have nothing to do with the NWO (if there's even such thing as a NWO, which has yet to be demonstrated as well...)
You MUST be joking w.r.t Masonry being fundamentally against tyranny (NWO!).
You must be Joking Right?
(all you need to see is WHO is part of this cult and that says it all!)
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Quite.
Originally posted by Jinni
Are you sure?
Did you even read your own source?
I think that the eye of providence which is depicted in the 1 dollar IS part of the iconography of Freemasonry.
See here:
en.wikipedia.org...and
The Masonic use of the Eye does not incorporate a pyramid, although the enclosing triangle is often interpreted as one.
Some Masonic organizations have explicitly denied any special connection to the original creation of the Seal. Frequently cited as public evidence to this are the claims that the pyramid portion of the seal holds no symbolic significance to Masons, and that records suggest the Eye of Providence was not adopted as a Masonic symbol until 1797, after it was adopted for use in the Great Seal.
Perhaps you can name WHO is part of this "cult" and enlighten us? Masons have nothing to do with the NWO (if there's even such thing as a NWO, which has yet to be demonstrated as well...)
You MUST be joking w.r.t Masonry being fundamentally against tyranny (NWO!).
You must be Joking Right?
(all you need to see is WHO is part of this cult and that says it all!)
[edit on 12/15/2008 by JoshNorton]
I never denied the eye. It's the pyramid I take issue with. It's simply not used in Masonic symbolism.
Originally posted by Jinni
Yes I did read the source!
"The Eye of Providence also appears as part of the iconography of the Freemasons. Here it represents the all-seeing eye of God, and is then a reminder that a Mason's deeds are always observed by God (who is referred to in Masonry as the Grand Architect of the Universe). Typically the Masonic Eye of Providence has a semi-circular glory below the eye — often the lowest rays extend further down. Sometimes the Eye is enclosed by a triangle. Other variations of the symbol can also be found, with the eye itself being replaced by the letter ‘G’, representing both the art of geometry and God."
Denying ignorance. I know a lot of real Masons too, considering I AM a real Mason...I spend time with my brethren almost every week.
I think your efforts to paint masonry in 'good guy' light is absolutely pathetic. I -know- real ones and they are so screwed up.
Please! For heaven's sake STOP your DISINFO!
P.S. With views like yours WTF are you doing on ATS anyway? The only motivation I see for you is to spread disinfo and that's it!
Originally posted by JoshNorton
I never denied the eye. It's the pyramid I take issue with. It's simply not used in Masonic symbolism.
Originally posted by Jinni
Yes I did read the source!
"The Eye of Providence also appears as part of the iconography of the Freemasons. Here it represents the all-seeing eye of God, and is then a reminder that a Mason's deeds are always observed by God (who is referred to in Masonry as the Grand Architect of the Universe). Typically the Masonic Eye of Providence has a semi-circular glory below the eye — often the lowest rays extend further down. Sometimes the Eye is enclosed by a triangle. Other variations of the symbol can also be found, with the eye itself being replaced by the letter ‘G’, representing both the art of geometry and God."
Denying ignorance. I know a lot of real Masons too, considering I AM a real Mason...I spend time with my brethren almost every week.
I think your efforts to paint masonry in 'good guy' light is absolutely pathetic. I -know- real ones and they are so screwed up.
Please! For heaven's sake STOP your DISINFO!
P.S. With views like yours WTF are you doing on ATS anyway? The only motivation I see for you is to spread disinfo and that's it!
Attack me all you like, but you still haven't shown a person currently in some tyrannical position of power who is also a Mason.