Mysterious ‘Tracks’ On Mars And The Moon!

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Now the question is....WHY THE DEVIL DON'T NASA OR ESA PLAN TO LAND THEIR ROVERS/BUGGIES NEAR MANY OF THESE VERY INTRIGUING AREAS?

Originally posted by blue bird
AND WHY DIAGONAL?

Because that was the best way to come down from where it was.

And yes, I think that was made by a rock (but I can't find any rock that could have made that track on the photo), as all the (many) other marks on that photo (the full resolution photo).

A little further down, this track has a rock at the end that I suppose was the one who did it.

Originally posted by mikesingh
Now the question is....WHY THE DEVIL DON'T NASA OR ESA PLAN TO LAND THEIR ROVERS/BUGGIES NEAR MANY OF THESE VERY INTRIGUING AREAS?

Some of the most interesting areas are too near the poles to be a good option for a robot, at least for now.

Originally posted by ArMaP
Because that was the best way to come down from where it was.

Thats just silly... it would have to defy gravity to make that transverse in a straight line across a steep slope... and arc maybe but not a straight line

And yes, I think that was made by a rock

What kind of rock... and how did it make small holes on "bounces" two in a row then long ones then back to short ones...

Now if you had said "Linear Collapse" I might have given you more credit

:shk:

Originally posted by zorgon
Thats just silly... it would have to defy gravity to make that transverse in a straight line across a steep slope... and arc maybe but not a straight line

First of all, I think the track starts at the bottom right and goes to top left and not the other way.

And to know if it is up-hill or down-hill we have to know something we do not know just by looking at the photo, i.e. the relative altitude of all those areas.

What kind of rock... and how did it make small holes on "bounces" two in a row then long ones then back to short ones...

The shape of the track depends on the shape of the rock. I know this is silly, but imagine a rock with the general shape of the Mercedes symbol but without the rim around it. Imagine now that one of the three points of that rock is brocken and so it is wider than the others. The resulting track would be something like this:

o  o O o  o O o  o O o  o O

Now if you had said "Linear Collapse" I might have given you more credit

I did not said it because I think that that track is more likely to have been made by a rock, I only say what I think, regardless of what other people think.

That is why it is my opinion.

The fact that are many other tracks around it and at least one has a rock at the end helps me think this was made by a rock, like all those other tracks in the other two photos that were posted some time ago.

Originally posted by ArMaP
The fact that are many other tracks around it and at least one has a rock at the end helps me think this was made by a rock, like all those other tracks in the other two photos that were posted some time ago.

OK. So one out of ten tracks has a rock at the end. How about the other nine?

Cheers!

Originally posted by ArMaP
And to know if it is up-hill or down-hill we have to know something we do not know just by looking at the photo, i.e. the relative altitude of all those areas.

Really? You mean you cannot tell which part is the high ground when looking at a picture like that? The peaks and valley are really quite obvious "just by looking"and the shadows highlight the high points...

Originally posted by ArMaPI know this is silly, but imagine a rock with the general shape of the Mercedes symbol but without the rim around it.

Yuppers that sure is silly alright. So now you have to manufacture silly shaped boulders to explain the tracks... and the flaw in your opinion is as you say the rock is missing...

AND if you look closely at the pattern of the marks your Mercedes Rock must have changed as it rolled because the pattern changes..

It also goes in a perfectly straight line, despite the changes in elevation and does not follow the "lay of the land"

Great finds, and would like you to view this from Iani Chaos MARS.

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Originally posted by mikesingh
OK. So one out of ten tracks has a rock at the end. How about the other nine?

It's more like 6 out of 8, if I did not get the tracks mixed.

And no, I have no idea why there isn't any rock at the end of those tracks or even if that is the end of the track, as I do not have any way of knowing if the tracks that have rocks at the end were made by those rocks. I do not even know if those things are rocks, that is just my opinion.

Originally posted by zorgon
So now you have to manufacture silly shaped boulders to explain the tracks... and the flaw in your opinion is as you say the rock is missing...

I do not have to manufacture anything to explain the tracks, that was just a way to try to explain what I think.

AND if you look closely at the pattern of the marks your Mercedes Rock must have changed as it rolled because the pattern changes..

Apparently my idea was not the best. When I spoke of the "Mercedes rock" I was thinking of the shape of a cross-section of the rock because I thought it would be easier to imagine, some people have some difficulty imagining 3D objects with unfamiliar shapes.

The rock I suppose made that track could have a cross-section looking like the Mercedes symbol and a different cross-section looking like a perfect circle (not the band ), and a third cross-section looking like a five points star.

It also goes in a perfectly straight line, despite the changes in elevation and does not follow the "lay of the land"

No, it goes in an almost perfect straight line, if you put the image in an image editing program and draw a line you will see that the track makes a very slight bend to the right, imagining that the track starts at the bottom of the image.

As for the changes in elevation, I do not see anything that shows any difference in elevation along the track, the only changes I see along the track are changes in the colour of the ground.

Originally posted by ArMaP
The rock I suppose made that track could have a cross-section looking like the Mercedes symbol and a different cross-section looking like a perfect circle (not the band

), and a third cross-section looking like a five points star.

That Mercedes Rock is some rock alright with all those different cross sections and protuberances... mighty impressive boulder indeed...

No, it goes in an almost perfect straight line, if you put the image in an image editing program and draw a line you will see that the track makes a very slight bend to the right, imagining that the track starts at the bottom of the image.

Why would I imagine it starts at the bottom of the image, when the overall image clearly shows which way is UP?

As for the changes in elevation, I do not see anything that shows any difference in elevation along the track, the only changes I see along the track are changes in the colour of the ground.

Ah I see... so what you are telling me then... if there are no changes in elevation as you say, then this Mercedes Rock rolled a long distance on a flat surface... bouncing, twisting and skipping across this level ground, so it lands on the different points on the three cross sections of this Mercedes Rock...

Okay I have seen rocks in Utah move over a flat surface, (leaving a flat continuous trail)... so ignoring the fact that the image is of a CHASM, with clearly defined and described steep SLOPES... we will assume for a moment that the track is on level ground...

Okay so where is this miraculous Mercedes Rock that made this strange track? Surely it did not just vanish into thin air?

OY and you skeptics call US crazy... :shk:



[edit on 21-5-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon

OY and you skeptics call US crazy... :shk:

[edit on 21-5-2007 by zorgon]

The thing about "skeptics" is that they represent the best side of myself. I am skeptical...but i also believe that until we can prove it beyond any possible arguement, anything is possible. What is so hard about admitting this?

Do i believe everything you (or John, or RikRiley, or undo, or sleeper....) say? No, but i do believe that is is plausible, possible, and sometimes probable.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Do i believe everything you (or John, or RikRiley, or undo, or sleeper....) say? No, but i do believe that is is plausible, possible, and sometimes probable.

LOL that was directed at ArMap

What? You don't take our word as gospel? What cheek! I mean how can we start a cult if we don't have absolute blind followers?

Sigh oh well back to the drawing board....

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

The thing about "skeptics" is that they represent the best side of myself. I am skeptical...but i also believe that until we can prove it beyond any possible arguement, anything is possible. What is so hard about admitting this?

Do i believe everything you (or John, or RikRiley, or undo, or sleeper....) say? No, but i do believe that is is plausible, possible, and sometimes probable.

Hmmm... You can either be a skeptic or a believer. Alternative 3 is a fence sitter! Neither here nor there! So you must be a fence sitter then? These are the great ones with an open mind. Like myself!

Cheers!

Zorgon...i was just making comment on the word skeptic. Maybe i thought it might be more for ArMap's benefit. I kind of like that guy (maybe it is his South Park avatar?).

Mike, i wouldn't exactly say "fence sitter". Well...maybe you could.

I know that something is going on, and i want to look for the clues. Zorgon, yourself, undo...these people seem to be finding real clues and something to go on. Whether they are right or wrong, they have my attention because they are not approaching this from some far flung, sci fi manner. They are taking official government documents and putting them in lay terms. They are pouring over photo's looking for things that don't match. True research. I definitely appreciate that.

I am on the fence, i guess, as much as anyone who is looking for truth (not promoting a pet theory). Thus, my "beliefs" change easily, based on new information. I find it much easier to do it this way than to risk traumatic disillusionment by believing blindly.

Regarding "Moon tracks", can we find any tire tracks that would support some of the machinery seen up there? Or are they using hover craft? You would think a truck this size would definitely leave some tracks behind, right?:

Originally posted by zorgon
That Mercedes Rock is some rock alright with all those different cross sections and protuberances... mighty impressive boulder indeed...

What is the problem with a rock with many different cross sections?

Maybe I am using the wrong words, but if you cut a rock in half, the new surface of each half it's what I call the cross section. If you cut the rock in a different way you will most probably get a different cross section, unless the rock is a perfect sphere, in that case all cross sections that intersect the centre of the rock will look like a perfect circle.

If you do not cut the rock through its centre then, even with a sphere, you can get different looking cross sections.

Why would I imagine it starts at the bottom of the image, when the overall image clearly shows which way is UP?

You look like someone with a good imagination.
OK, then you know that downslope is towards the top of the image. Good.

Ah I see... so what you are telling me then... if there are no changes in elevation as you say, then this Mercedes Rock rolled a long distance on a flat surface... bouncing, twisting and skipping across this level ground, so it lands on the different points on the three cross sections of this Mercedes Rock...

If I understand what you are saying you are talking about two different things, a flat surface and level ground.

A flat surface does not mean a horizontal surface, it could be in any position from horizontal to vertical, and in this case I was only talking about the ground where the track was made, you can have a non flat surface on a mountain slope but have many completely flat strips of ground from the top to the bottom.

Okay I have seen rocks in Utah move over a flat surface, (leaving a flat continuous trail)... so ignoring the fact that the image is of a CHASM, with clearly defined and described steep SLOPES... we will assume for a moment that the track is on level ground...

If by “level” you mean horizontal, I never spoke of level ground.

Okay so where is this miraculous Mercedes Rock that made this strange track? Surely it did not just vanish into thin air?

I said it from the beginning that I could not find anything that could have made that track on the photo, if you read my posts you know that I said it at least once.

OY and you skeptics call US crazy... :shk:

I never called you crazy, but I can start at any time you like. If you like it I can even call other things, and in even in different languages.

OK, this new track, although very small and with a rock(I suppose) at one end, is the only I think is going up instead of down, unless I am missing something.

I found it while looking for a photo with one of those marks of flowing "something". The photo shows that the "something" flowed to North, but the "rock" rolled South.

The "rock" is at the bottom of the photo, to the left of the flowing marks.

As the rock is so near the flowing marks this is one case for which I cannot think of any explanation.

Close-up of the "rock".

Any ideas?

Originally posted by ArMaP
Any ideas?

Well looking at the dark area in your first image I would say the top of your image is "down" but I would need to study the full original

In the meantime what is that bright thing with the tall shadow in your second picture?

I never called you crazy,

Figure of speech.. not meant literally.. sorry forgot your origin

[edit on 30-5-2007 by zorgon]

Sorry for necroing this thread, but I think I might have something to add to the original image?

Before I start, I should tell you that I did not use the exact image that Mr Singh used, I got my image from here. This pic has a better image quality and resolution than the one linked to in the OP.

I should also tell you that I have altered the images you are about to see with photoshop by making the shadows darker and reducing the contrast on the highlights and midtones, making picking things out alot easier. I also increased the resolution before I applied the before mentioned effects, so as to reduce any kind of unwanted artifacts. I have uploaded my .PSP file so that anyone can look at it. I have highlighted the areas of interest with a layer with coloured boxes. I have also included the the original picture, so that you can see I haven't tampered with it in any way, other than bringing out the detail. here is the PSP.

Lets start with the OP's subject matter to show how much I could get out of the pic by way of comparison, to show that the other pics I'm about to show would be pretty hard to spot normally:



Ok, now i'll present the other images I discovered:

3 interesting sites in pretty close proximity:





I find the "path" of this "boulder" especially interesting:



Other possible tracks?:





Now what strikes me as odd, is, if these are indeed boulders, then something recent to this pic being taken had to have caused these boulders to move. I have scowered the image from top to bottom, 5-6 times, and these are the only instances I can find of them. Now considering the terrain is pretty similar throughout the shot, I was expecting to find more similar instances due to whatever caused the others to move. But nothing, nada, zilch! very strange....

Enjoy
Ama

This is my first post ever here.
I probably have the wost 'tin foil hat' of anyone, I've been lurking here since 2000.
Back then I was younger, you know, thought I was cool going on this website 'knowing the go with paranormal stuff'
All good fun.

Anywho, this is the only topic that;s ever made me want to sign up and post, thank you.

My idea is, and this will all be foiled if my sense of time is out, is that some sort of largeish solar activity from the sun came past (like the ones that killed the birds and fish) and moved whatever it is, but not just in one go, i mean in a few goes, that would explain whatever it is heating up and breaking into bits along the way, plus the strange patterns that are like tracks but change here and there, because they were pushed at different times, or slightly different angles?

I dunno, like i said I'm a noob at this stuff.

Otherwise my best guess is, china.