the movie 300 and the 3000 that died.

I'm sorry but 300 was released so the movie industry could cash in on Frank Millers comic interpretation of the well known Battle of Thermopylae that was released during 1998 It's pratically scene for scene the same as the comic book bar the Queen has a bigger role and her scenes in the movie are added by the director.

Seriously i can see the point your trying to make but you got to remember the huge comic book movie onslaught that has been going on for the past few years with Sin City becoming such a success it was always likely 300 was going to be made into a movie.

When V for Vendetta came out some people were trying to twist it into alluding to NWO and things happening at the time etc. the thing is the book had been out for years before the movie yet i didn't see anyone back then attributing it to all these theories.

The 300 have always been potrayed as hero's seriously this is the second movie based on the actual story of the battle of Thermopylae the first being 'The 300 hundred Spartans' there is also alot of books on the event it's self 'The Hot Gates', 'Gates of Fire', 'Thermopylae: The Battle That Changed the World' Seriously it's this actual event that probably inspired 'In a way' (before anyone takes me out of context) the notion that few can beat many and you can sometimes beat the odds.

Another thing you have to remember is this is Frank Miller's take on the actual event so to attribute that the remember the 300 line etc. is linked to WTC is kinda of ludacris seeing the actual words are in the comic in 1998 seriously go read it cause you'll find pratically word for word the movie and it are the same. So your basically saying that Frank Miller's view of the event which is '300' is media brainwashing???? Even though the thing has been around three years before WTC actually happened.

I am not stupid either i can see the political message that the movie has in a way been used to make as like the 'few brave from the free world against the murderous onslaught from the east that wants to enslave everyone' etc. the thing is it's nothing new it's actual history as well only in the current world climate does it ring so clearly and people can draw the parrells that to be honest most of us ATS members expect to make without realising that in this modern day and age that maybe theres more to it all than just plain old good vs bad.

But apart from that seriously just enjoy the movie and check out the comic or the 'Gates of fire' and the other books book for more facts and some fiction about the event.


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Originally posted by rrahim1
I just made a huge connection. The movie 300 isn't all about America versus Iran. It's about 300 or multiplied by a factor of 10 to arrive at ~3000 people who died in the world trade center demolitions.

In effect the movie was about 300 dieing, sacrificing their lives, to leave a legacy of hope for the rest of the people in their country to fight the Persians.

No the movie was about the Spartan's last stand against the Persian Empire which had threatened to engulf the world. It isn't about WTC, it isn't a racial hate attack on Iran.... its just a movie based on a comic, based on a battle that took place about 2487 years ago. Everyone is just reading FAR too much into it.

Although TMNT is clearly a way of turning the public against the reptilian overlords that will soon rise up and make films about (shudder) learning.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by malganis
So the government tells the film writers/producers how to make their films so that they will manipulate people's views to pro-NWO?

First you need to understand that the Jews don't believe that Jesus actually existed and the masons deny that jesus existed.

Thier agenda is to make Jesus appear for the first time.

If you believe that Jesus has already existed then you get to spit in thier face instead.

Get it?

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What? So you're saying that film makers have something against Jews so they make films to make people think that Jesus existed? Or the film makers are collaborating with the NWO?

I don't see where you're going with this.

Originally posted by Kr0n0s
LMAO, the movie 300 was a movie about the pure warrior Nation known as Sparta and their heroic stand, along with 1000 Greek soldiers, at Thermopolye (sp) and nothing else.
No hidden meanings or no davinci code to break.
Sorry but some people just have to much time on their hands.


Where do they come up with these things kronos?geez!lol
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Oh this is a good one....

So under some of the theories I read in this thread..that would mean the following:

The Lord of the Rings trilogy (3) actually stands for the 3 planes that reached their targets...The ALL POWERFUL RING stands for the Pentagon (ring shaped) and must be destroyed for the world to go back to normal...The Ringwrathes (guys in black riding the horses) stand for the government agency/agents trying to keep a lid on it all by killing off those who know the real secret to the ring...and finally the title to the 2nd movie was Lord of the Rings THE TWO TOWERS had to stand for the 9/11 attacks right?

Cmon people...are there legitimate conspiracies out there...of course. Are there coverups...everyday. Did the movie 300 have ANYTHING to do with 9/11...NOOOOOO!

Can we all for one moment agree that 300 Spartans and a few thousand of her allies met up with the Persians at the battle of Thermopylae back in the 300 AD's?

Leonidas was real, so was Xerxes.

I understand you're trying to make the conspiracy connection, but sometimes it's just too much.

Shattered OUT...

Originally posted by Kr0n0s
LMAO, the movie 300 was a movie about the pure warrior Nation known as Sparta and their heroic stand, along with 1000 Greek soldiers, at Thermopolye (sp) and nothing else.
No hidden meanings or no davinci code to break.
Sorry but some people just have to much time on their hands.



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Whew, here I Was thinking I'd missed something critical. Thats what the movie was, nothing more.. Infact, it was a version based on a comic of the story even.

Blimey, who said it was about the US and Iran ? Boggled, mind, have I...

Originally posted by rrahim1
Then the media uses the phrase the 300 that died, Never forget!, never forget, never forget.

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A.N.Z.A.C. - Lest We Forget.

No conspiracy. In times of great loss we opt to remember.

"They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning
We will remember them.
Lest we forget."

No it's not. It's a comic by Frank Miller he made about the Spartans. When I draw comics I don't trying to incorporate any kind of hidden message. Stop over-reading.

Originally posted by rrahim1
I just made a huge connection. The movie 300 isn't all about America versus Iran. It's about 300 or multiplied by a factor of 10 to arrive at ~3000 people who died in the world trade center demolitions.

No offense, but have you studied history much? It's based on a very real battle, a very real civilization, and a very real king. It is a classic battle, and one that is studied in every military tactics course.

Leonides' holding off the Persian army was one of the great battles of the ancient world. If it hadn't been for a traitor who showed the Persians the back way up the mountain, they could probably have held out till the Athenian army arrived.

It kinda makes you wonder what the Persian army was really like doesn't it?

I mean it's an entire army, numbering..... OODLES... and they were stopped by 300 soldiers and 1000 Thespians. Now, speaking as a Thespian, I have to say that in a situation like that I would maybe sever a leg if I'm lucky, before being skewered like a boar.

Rrahim. you have got it all wrong one event is about brave men dedicated to their cause and fighting the worlds greatest power the other is about 3000 people slaughtered like sheep, the two events are not the same.

But that siad knowing how desperate the NWO is to try and convince Americans and others that there is a need for a new holy crusade they we use anything to continue with the brainwashing process.

Why would film makers make films to sway people towards the NWO? It doesn't make sense, unless you're saying that every film maker/writer is in the NWO?

The battle at Thermopylae is one of my favorite strategic stories. I can't get enough of it and I'm going to see that movie today, even though I've been warned of it's washed over jingoistic propaganda status. Just one of those people who has to see for themselves.

I wonder if they refer to the oracle in the movie. Hope it's not as overtly homoerotic as Alexander, just because it was really distracting to the plot, although true to history.

Just kidding

Maybe I'll report back later on my opinion of the movie, hope they didn't ruin a good story. Could have waited to write this suppose...

Carpe Postum

I dont think hes saying that the movie itself is a conspiracy. It's just odd that they release a movie funded handsomely for the special effects where the plot included 300 dieing and when they die they show all the other kids and men standing up to fight the enemy persia.

Isn't kind of odd? that thats whats happening in America today? All of us are standing up to defend a nation wherer 3000 of our bravest died. Except in real life the enemy is within and not from persia.

I just made a huge connection. The movie 300 isn't all about America versus Iran. It's about 300 or multiplied by a factor of 10 to arrive at ~3000 people who died in the world trade center demolitions.

In effect the movie was about 300 dieing, sacrificing their lives, to leave a legacy of hope for the rest of the people in their country to fight the Persians.

real life = this movie x 10

it's a comic book, made into a movie...
The first issue was published in 1998.
It's a fictionalized retelling of the events at the battle of thermopylae which happened 480 BC

are we really looking for answers in comicbook stories now?

as for the 300 versus the huge persian army.. this happened 480BC... The story got glamorized, blown up, exagerated over the years.. like any victor would (history is written by the victorious)

Originally posted by clearwater
The battle at Thermopylae is one of my favorite strategic stories. I can't get enough of it and I'm going to see that movie today, even though I've been warned of it's washed over jingoistic propaganda status. Just one of those people who has to see for themselves.

I wonder if they refer to the oracle in the movie. Hope it's not as overtly homoerotic as Alexander, just because it was really distracting to the plot, although true to history.

Just kidding

Maybe I'll report back later on my opinion of the movie, hope they didn't ruin a good story. Could have waited to write this suppose...

Carpe Postum

I'm sorry to say it's not at all realistic, unless you believe persians had orcs and such in their army.

I wasn't familiar with the comic when I saw this movie so it was a real big letdown. I was hoping for a historical movie. though modernized and adapted for hollywood is okay.. putting in orcs and such is not.. and the hommage to gladiator seemed more like uninspirational ripping of gladiator (the hand through the wheat fields.. erm seen that before.... :s)
It even uses the gladiator music at the credit roll.

I regret going to this one.. It's a fine nobrainer action flic, but that's not the type of movie I like at all.

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So the government tells the film writers/producers how to make their films so that they will manipulate people's views to pro-NWO?

Why would film makers make films to sway people towards the NWO? It doesn't make sense, unless you're saying that every film maker/writer is in the NWO?

Of course it doesn't make sense, because it doesn't work that way. This is how they do it: from all hopeful writers and film makers only a few ideas are chosen by the major studios to be made a film - what requirements would a script have to meet? It must be good, of course; but what does "good" mean?

The money they spend on all the people listed in the credits (I always watch them when I go to the cinema) and on advertisement must multiply, of course. If you study what kind of storytelling is behind all those Hollywood "blockbuster movies", hardly ever will you find rich and compelling ideas. It's mostly about action, actors, directors, CGI and all that nonsense. The story itself, especially the "conclusio(n)", is adjustable. Always.

So basically, if you have the power to pick certain projects and shoot them into the mass media orbit for all to see, you may want to choose those that "program" the respective audience a certain way, and see to it you have a say in the "conclusio(n)". I don't know about 300, because I haven't seen it yet, but "The Matrix" trilogy is a great example.

(I've been thinking about this for a very long time, so please bear with me, I don't want to derail the thread, just want to make clear what I mean...)

The Matrix has become THE epic in certain circles, many allusions are made these days to "wake up, Neo", taking the Red Pill and so on. Besides playing with many philosophical and religous themes (like choice, reality, freedom and all that stuff, about which thousands of interpretations and essays have been written) and looking real cool, all in all, the stage is a perfect metaphor for the world we're living in - hooked up to a system that nourishes us, feeds on our energy and keeps us enslaved by "pulling a world over our eyes". But if you further read between the lines, some aspects should raise an eyebrow or two: you are a rebel, fighting for the good cause. And because everyone could be an enemy agent, it's fine to run around and kill people. In the end, the saviour guy who was meant to be "The One" and stop slavery is a pre-planned part of the plot as well, the Great Revolution everyone was waiting for is just a way to make sure the System remains stable. It's a movie of resignation: hey, how could you possibly wake all those people up? It's impossible, but thanks for trying. Mankind can't live without the System anymore, cope with it.

Of course, you can read anything into a story - and since the favourite task my teachers used to give was: "Explain the underlying message the author of the story wants to convery", I still look out for what ideas are programmed and propagandaed into the "hive mind". I try not to be too paranoid about this, maybe we're all to be blamed of being part of the system by demanding and consuming certain stuff more than other, maybe that's the way artists secretly rule the world - but somehow I often wonder why screen torture orgies like "Hostel" or "Saw III" are possible these days, while they were taboo only 20 years ago - maybe to get us used to seeing people suffer? - or how such openly "rebellious" movies like "Matrix" or "V for Vendetta" fish in the waters of those who want change and those who identify with the characters presented... just when more and more people are discontent with their governments and doubt "official" stories. Wouldn't it be counter-productive? Shizophrenically: no.

Just as the cave paintings don't show what the tribe has done, but magically invoced what was to come - the hunting of the deer - today's movies prepare the minds and align the frequencies for what will be.

There WILL be change, and it is well-planned. There will be false prophets, and they will reap what all these stories have subliminally planted. These prophets will gather their followings and lead them. Against each other. So the System can prevail.

The future has been carved in stone already... 500 million men and women will survive - world wide.

If my theory is correct, there should be a movie where the Georgia Guidestones are destroyed (we used to pull holy sites and temples back in the old days too - for a reason, obviously) 9 billion humans (that's where the population growth will max eventually and stagnate, according to conventional wisdom) do live peacefully on planet earth without hurting each other, free, happy, and never hungry or thirsty, without the rule of an aristocratic elite or an enslaving System :-)

You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...

Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to watching 300, I guess my teachers will pop up before my inner eye and ask: "What message is the author trying to convey?"

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Very theatrical, felt like I was sitting around a bonfire listening to the storyteller tell an old tale, a little dressed up.

Thought the Persian monsters and such were very cool, and in line with the old storytelling techniques.

Loved it as long as I suspended any judgment and went along for the ride. But it should have been called 300 sixpacks.

Could write a long dissertation on the current cultural influences and inaccuracy of the movie. But that would ruin the fun of it.

Not bad, worth the ride.

Laughed out loud in a few spots though.

I rally liked it. esp the monsters and such. But it wasnt meant to portray the events with 100% accuracy. It was for entertainment purposes only. The visuaks were just stunning, I really enjoyed it more than I though i would

So the NWO tells the film producers which film ideas to use for the big screen?