Morgellon's Identified!!!

Originally posted by interestedalwaysI know that at least 99% of you aren't too concerned about what I am talking about, or even believe I saw such a thing, I probably wouldn't think much about it either except that I did see it, so I will continue to look for anything that may relate.

I find myself coming back to look at this, and I can't help but feel this is the right attitude to have. You get my last WATS.

heres a video i found of a news report on morgellons. i dont know if it was posted yet bet here clip

Thanks IATI - good video. I had heard the story about the young man - so sad. I have been travelling rather extensively for work so I haven't had the time for much additional research on Morgellons. So, please everyone, any one with good links or videos like this one - post them!!!

Thanks IATI - good video. I had heard the story about the young man - so sad. I have been travelling rather extensively for work so I haven't had the time for much additional research on Morgellons. So, please everyone, any one with good links or videos like this one - post them!!!

Originally posted by deessell

www.silentsuperbug.com...

www.lightwatcher.com...

[edit on 30-3-2007 by deessell]

thanks for the links!

This thread really shouldn't die yet.

I wish there was a way to get a report from the CDC on information they have gathered about this.

Thank goodness it isn't so rampant that it is in our face, at least at this point.

Originally posted by interestedalways
Thank goodness it isn't so rampant that it is in our face, at least at this point.

Or on or face, whatever the case is!

No, it isn't going to die. As long as Morgellons is around so will be the media attention.

A long time ago one of my associates sent me the silentsuperbug video with the caption "alien problems?" I happen to agree, but proving it is altogether another matter.

Originally posted by cpdaman
stay focused people

stay unbiased and as always stay very concerned about a gov't that secretly talks about lowering the population

even when others aren't willing to swallow these stories (unless they are in popular science) and the socially popular beleifs negatively reinforce our attempts to bring these things to light stay focused and also our subconscious is only to happy to lull us back to ignorance and dismiss these morgellen's disease and the relation to chemtrails, stay focused, What ever it takes

remember if we waited for scientists to come to unanimous conclusions regarding this Possible correlation it would be 2 late anyhow. considering the fact that if it was manmade and it was organized by the gov't they would discredit, threaten, pay off, or make it very discouraged for recognized scientists to speak out. also if this was made by the gov't i would expect them to have a giant disinfo and misinfo. campaign full of stories and cointelpro arguments for those who are subconsciously only waiting for a push to look for some piece of evidence to see this as a hoax and 2 get back into the herd. Be smarter

You are a very wise person and incredibly insightful. I am not so sure the point you have made could possibly be stated better.

Thanks for your well written words and concise assessments. You have hit the nail square on the head.

By strange coincidence, I spent half the afternoon today reading posts submitted by an Australian woman (poster xyzw)whose list of symptoms read like a horror story:

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'can't remember what you said about your leg, but about 4 days ago,(after a particularly bad night), I massaged out things that looked like 'flies' from my forearms ..... they are actual insects. I photographed them and have them on tape ....whoooooo...this is getting really creepy...how can they be living in my skin? I remembered you saying something about 'worms'(?) coming out of your foot?...

[/ext] curezone.com...

The several dozen posts can be read under thread-heading: Morgellons Parasite Disease Support Forum and the Australian sufferer's posts commence under sub-heading: 'Australian's (sic) With Morgellons', poster: zyxw.

The Australian sufferer in question is apparently a school teacher who lives in Far North Queensland, where the temperatures are frequently high with extreme humidity. This woman apparently suffered Dengue Fever prior to contracting whatever afflicts her now (she suspects it is Morgellons). She believes her immune system was weakened by the Dengue.

Her symptoms, from memory, include: 'fur' type substance which emerges from the inside of her forearms after exertion --- very small 'spider' like things which traverse her skin, with some sort of filament or 'web' substance trailing from them (a pupil noticed this spider-thing on the sufferer's arm) --- black 'granular' things which emerge from the skin, particularly after the sufferer has massaged her skin for the purpose of ridding herself of these objects --- 'maggots' which the sufferer also expelled from her skin after massage --- small FLY type creatures which not only emerge from her skin but which are also in the air within the sufferer's home (she managed to catch three of these on a saucer of water).

Also, the sufferer noticed thousands of small filament things on the glossy surface of a piano in her home. She also found many hundreds of these filaments on the newly cleaned dashboard of her car, which had been locked. The sufferer suspects the filaments must be emerging from her own body. She noticed that ALL the filaments were oriented east-west.

Prior to suffering the above and other symptoms, the Australian woman had always chosen cotton clothing and bed-linen, etc.

Since contracting this 'disease', she cannot tolerate cotton near her skin. She suspects today's cotton items have been 'treated' or adulterated to cause or worsen the symptoms. She now uses 'satiny' type fabrics, preferably synthetics (which she previously loathed) as these are most comfortable.

Due to the distress caused by bed-linen, etc., she says she often sleeps on the floor. Since contracting this 'disease', she has become fanatical about personal and household cleanliness. She cleans the floor until it is spotless. When she awakens after sleeping on the floor, she discovers many of the black 'grain' type objects, plus fibrous masses and other objects, which she believes emerge from or fall from her own body. She also finds them on her clothes after wearing them.

This woman has several times collected samples of the black 'grains' and 'spiders' and 'flies' and 'maggots' on wide sticky paper. She studies them under her home microscope and has taken photos of same -- but she states in her posts that she still doesn't know how to post these online. She states she sent a number of these samples to the Australian Tropical Diseases Dept., who (she says) were extremely interested. As far as I'm aware, the Dept. has not responded with any information re: possible discoveries or cures.

She has used a wide variety of 'cures' suggested by other sufferers she's met online. For a very brief period (approx. one week) she was relatively free of symptoms, although they recommenced shortly afterwards.

She is in contact with another Australian sufferer from the other end of the continent (in Melbourne) whose symptoms are even worse than her own.

She gets very little sleep and in several posts said she feared she would lose her job. She's noticed that after swimming in the nearby ocean, she finds enormous amounts of the 'fur' type stuff covering her body. She has to scrape this off.

In one post, she states that the town in which she lives is afflicted by airborne 'black stuff' which has alarmed many residents but which the authorities have claimed is a natural 'fungal' type stuff.

One thing which struck me as I read the above posts here in this ATS thread was one by (I think) 'Interestedsideways', concerning a fleck of luminous or glittery type stuff which appeared on her skin (near or above a pore). It reminded me of one of the Australian woman's posts, in which she described how stuff that looked similar to tiny slivers of glass began coming out of her skin, or was on her skin (can't remember which).

I've also remembered another of the Australian woman's posts which detailed how 'blobs' of blood began coming out of her skin. She collected and photographed these and in a subsequent post commented that there were the same as 'blobs' of blood posted by an American woman in the same thread.

Comment's been made, here in this ATS thread, about the quality of 'evidence' tendered. I suspect many sufferers are similar to the Australian woman, insofar as they're not terribly competent regarding use of microscopes, cameras or protocol: they're simply trying to record what they're finding, to share with others or simply in order they will have SOME record to present to those who may still be claiming these horrors are 'psychosomatic'. So that would go considerable way to explaining why much of the evidence appears and is presented in 'amateur' fashion.



An above poster in this ATS thread commented that the Chemtrails we see may in fact be an attempted 'cure' or 'disinfectant' for something inflicted upon the US (and Australia) by another nation's scientists (deliberately or otherwise). Whoever the poster was (SteveR ?) they phrased it far better than that --- I bestowed Five Stars on that post (and others in this thread) in any case. It's something that hadn't occurred to me before, possibly hadn't occurred to others either, and it's certainly thought provoking.

Some excellent posts and information in this thread.

My sincere sympathies go to those who're suffering this nightmare first-hand and 'thanks' to the OP and all contributors to this thread for making such earnest efforts to find and publish information in the attempt to help, educate and solve.

Originally posted by Dock6

I've also remembered another of the Australian woman's posts which detailed how 'blobs' of blood began coming out of her skin. She collected and photographed these and in a subsequent post commented that there were the same as 'blobs' of blood posted by an American woman in the same thread.

Interesting that you mentioned this. It is the first I have read of any indication of blood related to this.

I had an experience while participating in an old thread by AlienAgenda which was to meditate using colors to correspond to the four quadrants of the brain using a figure eight pattern. I did do the meditation sitting in front of the computer and when I opened my eyes and began to type I noticed a "bubble" (blob?) of blood on my forearm. It was just sitting there in one spot, not running or anything, almost as if it was already congealing. There was quite a bit of blood actually when I smeared it and beside the pinhole where it apparently came from was a set of burn like marks on either side of the hole. It looked like a scratch that was already healing, or maybe a slight burn in the skin.

Funny thing was that I hadn't left my chair to have injured myself, nor did I have a "sore" or anything already there that would have started to bleed.

Then I felt around the area with my fingernail and felt something sharpish in the skin at the hole place. I scraped it and put the 'whatever' came out on my cigarette package cellaphane. I got a magnifying glass and observed the stuff I had scraped and there was a tiny piece of something that looked like a piece of clear sand or glass.

I posted this occurance on the thread when it happened. AlienAgenda said not to be alarmed that I was being prepared for a "job" to do later.

I don't think that was a good explanation! I just wanted to add this to the thread because the more correlations we can find the more likely we are to come to an understanding and know that something really is going on.

Once you are able to put the political nature of this illness into this equation, it becomes easy to see the reasons for the efforts being made to discredit, distract, ridicule, or otherwise misdirect inquisitive people down paths leading to nowhere.

In my dealings with this issue, I have been reminded of a quote by Gandhi.

""First they ignore you...
Then they laugh at you...
Then they fight you...
Then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi


Take it from me, the people representing the establishment, both from industry and the political arenas, are very, very good at what they do. Slight of hand and sneakiness doesn’t come close explain the tactics being used.

Take morgellons for example:

I was one of the small handful of people to be active with this issue on the net. Not only to find out what the hell was happening to my body, but to find some relief and treatment for my symptoms. This was close to 5 years ago. I now have the guilt of having most likely given this nightmare to my girlfriend. Last year we lost an 18 week pregnancy. indeterminable cause. And yet we still consider ourselves fortunate simply because there are others who have it much worse, their suffering is enormous.

Here is a brief, also far from complete, rundown of the concerted efforts underway towards keeping this issue from gaining to much attention.

1st

The ongoing general reaction from the medical establishment is a psychological diagnosis. This is still very much so being promoted by many in the medical fields. Thankfully, this is changing. Hell I didn’t care if it was mental or physical, I just wanted it to get better, so I went to the referred shrink who then sent me back to a dermatologist as he determined I was rational and competent, and believed himself there was a definite pathology involved. But numerous doctors continue to tell me/us, that it was all in our heads.

2nd
The Doctors and scientist that had recognized this as a problem, all the sudden found themselves in various career ending type problems and situations.

DR. Goldhagen- director of human health services in Duval county Florida

Dr George Schwartz- had his license to practice revoked

Dr Stricker and RN Savely have both been under increased scrutiny

Dr Wymore has taken a good share of abuse and had his beliefs questioned.

Several other practicing physicians have now claimed to be infected, but their words and opinions fall on deaf ears and they have otherwise been ostracized and publicly doubted and questioned over their mental status. There are many other examples but I think you know where I am headed here.


3rd
Our own Tax paid, Health Monitoring Agencies, continue to ignore the whole issue. Short of some small amount of lip service given to simply sound competent and capable, they have done nothing. There are letters from congressmen to the CDC asking for action around this since 2004!! Still nothing substantial has been heard from them. My communications with the CDC can be read @ crossinglines.net...


The reality is, and this is a fact, if or when we are attacked with some sort of incapacitating, slow acting bioweapon, we are screwed, I mean really screwed as it appears these trusted agencies actually have their heads up their asses, or are ultimately caught up in giant sized conflicts of interests, or are otherwise scared to stick their necks out from the status quo because of fear of the loss of capital gain.. They can’t even catch the people who sent us our own, USA manufactured anthrax. Hmmmm. Mom always said that If it LOOKS like bullsh*t, and smells like bullsh*t, It is almost certainly Bullsh*t.



4th
There are several groups actively working on swaying public opinion, particularly on the internet. Morgellonswatch.com comes to mind as the most active. These people have pushed so hard that it appears that it is actually them that appear to have a screw loose or two.

Ridiculous explana

continued:

Ridiculous explanations the skeptics have offered, have gone so far as to say that sufferers create their lesions by scratching and then shoving fibers into the lesions, or my favorite, injecting the fibers under their skin, or having a spouse do it to and for them. Unbelievable.

5th
Others say this is all a viral campaign for some movie coming out.

6th
Now they are linking it to chemtrails, another non proven conspiracy theory. They say you are known by the company you keep, so they continue to tie this in with activists and conspiratorial types to continue the smoke and mirrors game.

NOW, don’t get me wrong here, chemtrails may very well be a factor in this issue, just perhaps not the way most are interpreting this correlation. (More on this soon)


My prediction is this illness will be used ultimately for some political purpose or blamed on a terrorist attack with possible quarantines and further degrading of our liberties and freedoms, but again this is just a guess on my part. Let's all hope I am wrong but once looked at closely, one cannot say that there is not a concerted effort underway, to negate the reality of this bugs existance.



Southcity

Originally posted by interestedalways


I just wanted to add this to the thread because the more correlations we can find the more likely we are to come to an understanding and know that something really is going on.

I will share the answers to the reasons why our system is failing us, and the reasons for the types of efforts underway as mention in the previous posts. This letter is from the scientist who created the silentsuperbug videos and reference sites. other communications between us can be read here @ crossinglines.net...

Here is the letter.

South.



-----Original Message-----
From: perdaniel
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE:

South,

"You are a fine and noble personality but you seem to be not very well informed about the idea "general attitude"

If there was interest in my rather involuntary mission I would have noticed more response.

Again, a "foreigner" with a world issue under his arms is not appreciated.

The Political nature is such that Nobody will opt for putting bi-lateral relations at risk, and the media will only go for the matter if public momentum is inevitable.

In the world of science all happen to be equipped with a strong memory.
If one international body would start to point at the other, all would be put seriously at risk.

At this moment the scientific world has started a discussion about AIDS and how ethical all has been.
How ethical all has been!
And the majority still will talk the matter back into the bushes.

I despise activists, conspiracy theorists, alarmists, whatever recalcitrant and organized critique you can think of, but I seriously feel motivated by the idea that you have the democratic spirited right and duty to point things out by mentioning the thing by its proper name.

If later on, you will get to know what this target is doing in culture, and what this accounts for in theory and maybe in practice, you may have a world wide revolution going on.

Basically the organism has a full, but translated blue print of another human being in its design.
This next to a full but translated blue print of at least one mammal, maybe a bird, but for sure insect, parasite, fungi and plant.

An X number of cultures will in a reject like way sometimes throw out a perfect or near perfect genesis of initial dominant gene input.

All this happens to be with the presence of one peculiar and unexpected phenomenon to know; sometimes rapid fusion resulting in the genesis of a known entity but with absence of an embryogenic stage.(....)

The genesis of the insect happens to be more massive and with a bigger dimension than the mammal and human entity!

All used method has been stowed away in one of the most oldest life forms on earth with the use of top technology of already the past.

This type" information" now seems exponentially to proliferate in the environment and to create momentum in body it feels most comfortable with, to know water and soil; including freshwater supplies, lakes, rivers and the vast ocean.

They can't stop it South, they can't keep science at pace with the speed nature integrates this type element in every life form that is around.

Cyano and algae, and more general; plankton, represents the biggest body, the biggest weight, the biggest decision maker, because it represents the source code of all life that is present.

Like with any true disaster, people stop thinking and expect that the other ones will do the job.

But not a lot happens; except that they are working on an collective alibi under the name "bio diversity" and "climate change"

Bio means life, and a more proper terminology would be bio climate change.
Scientific models already integrate the introduction of a wide set novel
(uncontrollable) conditions.

They take swabs from all over the world from people that live in remote places, as a reference tool to understand where things for this splendid and organized world have gone wrong.


Sincerely,

Perdaniel

Interestedalways: when you have a few minutes to spare, you might like to read some of the Australian woman's posts, accessible on the links I posted in my earlier post. Her user-name (I think, but it's in my earlier post) is 'zxyv' (or something like that).

She had so many weird things coming out of her body after she massaged and bathed, but I distinctly remember in one of her posts that she stated incredulously that objects resembling tiny shards of glass had emerged from her skin (her forearm I think). And the blobs of blood -- she wrote quite a bit about those as well.

I don't think meditation would have caused the blood and objects you mentioned, do you?

I'm just stunned by the courage of those who're suffering these hideous symptoms --- these people are awesome in the literal sense.

Good luck, Interestedalways

Southcty: don't know what to say, re: the correspondence you posted .... frightening doesn't begin to cover it.

So sorry for the loss suffered by you and your girlfriend.

Just occurred to me and may have previously occurred to you, I realise, but have you considered consulting a reputable dowser, re: your condition and possible ways to cure or at least alleviate ?

I'm confident you're awrare that dowsing can do more than find water and lost keys --- just mentioning that here for those who browse and for whom dowsing may provide relief regardless of their problem.

Best wishes and thank you for your excellent posts

Thanks SouthCty and Dock6 for contributing. Admittedly I haven't had much time to continue with my research but fully intend to in the near future.

Anyone have news regarding the CDC's "Study" of the disorder? It seemed like they were all gung-ho to research this and then... nothing! IMO, when the government says they are going to do something and then, suddenly, the momentum stops cold - it just reeks of a conspiracy; like they are trying to bury something.

I keep coming back to a.) an experiment that some gov't agency was working on that they they failed to adequately safeguard or contain with known consequnces or b.) an unintended consequence of some other gov't program; i.e. chemtrail spraying, nano-tech or genetic engineering. In any event, this didn't create itself. Someone, somewhere is responsible and holds the kys to unlock the mystery. Let's please keep digging until we get to the truth. Thanks again!

Please allow me to share what we are at least 80-90% certain of concerning this novel, synthetic and infectious, man made, model, micro organism that causes what is becoming known as morgellons, or as I prefer to call it, UDS (Unidentified Dermatosis Syndrome. As referenced by the State of Georgia)

This infectious agent was originally created for research involving artificial skin, wound dressings, biosensors, and various cancers. The science behind this agent is still considered "Top Shelf Technology" even though elite academia have been working on these types of things for at least 2 decades.

In a nutshell, so far as I am able to understand, quorum sensing(cell to cell communication) MADE(created)single celled micro organisms, have gained the ability to congregate (bio-film like), and develop into a multicellular organism of what ever the dominant gene input may be. Public acknowledgment of this fact is not likely as the response from the general public would be entirely unpredictable.

The release of this agent appears to have been accidental, HOWEVER, it is not a stretch to consider that industry (western medicine and Big Pharma)has seized or will seize this opportunity by actually nurturing the spread of this infection with the ultimate goal being the profits from the selling of life long suppressive types of therapy to a rather significant proportion of the population.

This European scientist has already made the statement that already, as of today, "a rather large percentage of the population have already been exposed to this agent. Most are unaware of their exposure and remain asymptomatic or are misdiagnosed." The fairly small number of people that do show symptoms are those becoming known as morgellons victims or sufferers.


The reasons behind the lack of response from our federal and state health monitors is completely political. What they have obviously decided to do is this.

They are hoping and keeping their fingers crossed that this modified bug will simply mutate into a weaker strain or even better, it will burn itself out completely, leaving only those currently infected to worry about. In fact, if it gets to that point, they would not spend a second thinking about those currently infected as this small number of people would simply disappear in statistic by unrelated cause of death.

Unfortunately, this does not appear to be the case as the numbers of people acquiring this are beginning to double, not only in the US but in at least 16 other nations as well.

This will eventually need to be addressed, but for the time being

Unless forced by the courts followed by court oversight on the investigation, this info will never be acknowledged.




Short of the communications I have had with this scientist, as well those with the CDC crossinglines.net... , www.crossinglines.net... has little to offer in comparison to what can be found at www.silentsuperbug-reference.blogspot.com... and
www.silentsuperbug-micro.blogspot.com... There are many more links on these two pages that should be read as well.


More to follow...

Southcity


By the way, This is what one of these filaments look like. www.crossinglines.net...


[edit on 21-5-2007 by Southcty]

Originally posted by Dock6
Southcty: don't know what to say, re: the correspondence you posted .... frightening doesn't begin to cover it.

So sorry for the loss suffered by you and your girlfriend.

Just occurred to me and may have previously occurred to you, I realise, but have you considered consulting a reputable dowser, re: your condition and possible ways to cure or at least alleviate ?

I'm confident you're awrare that dowsing can do more than find water and lost keys --- just mentioning that here for those who browse and for whom dowsing may provide relief regardless of their problem.

Best wishes and thank you for your excellent posts

Originally posted by Dock6
Interestedalways: when you have a few minutes to spare, you might like to read some of the Australian woman's posts, accessible on the links I posted in my earlier post. Her user-name (I think, but it's in my earlier post) is 'zxyv' (or something like that).

I will definetly make time to read the information. Thank you.,

I don't think meditation would have caused the blood and objects you mentioned, do you?

No, I don't think the meditation caused the physical manifestation of an injury. I think it is possibe that the meditation allowed my mind to be preoccupied while something else caused the hole with the pool of blood and the two arc shaped *lazer burns* or whatever they were one on each side of the hole. With all the high tech uses of lazers and similar light based weapons I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was some technology being tried out on the unsuspecting public. One deep in meditiation ready to blame alien involvement. After all the thread I was lured to, (someone I had been talking with alot recommended I check out that thread) was boasting the meditation to bring forth Proof Postive of contact with aliens.

The way I see it is more of the genre of military experiements.