Circumcision is recommended to fight HIV

Circumcision is recommended to fight HIV

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U.N. health agencies recommended Wednesday that heterosexual men undergo circumcision because of "compelling" evidence that it can reduce their chances of contracting HIV by up to 60 percent.

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Very interesting indeed. I had no idea. Any thoughts?

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uhm dont sleep with people who have HIV...pretty moot point other than that.



[edit on 28-3-2007 by xEphon]

I personally don't see anything wrong with this. They are not forcing anyone, however giving a reduction method of sorts. I think its great to have a chemical free risk reducer.

I'm a woman, so maybe i'm biased....viva la circumcision!

Thats like saying lets play russian roulette with 5 bullets instead of 6 ...

If you dont want to get aids...dont sleep with someone who has it. end of story.

Originally posted by xEphon
Thats like saying lets play russian roulette with 5 bullets instead of 6 ...

If you dont want to get aids...dont sleep with someone who has it. end of story.

Are you aware there is a significant amount of people that have AIDS or HIV that are not aware of it?

Well, I am circumsized so I really can't argue for or against what the article is stating. However, I will say that I know a guy who, well, at least he claims he is I don't know and really don't care, says he is uncircumsized and he has had his bouts with infections and stds. So, I'd say that your chances of catching disease is probably increased by not being circumsized, yes.

Years ago in 2001 or 2002 I read an article in a Men's Health magazine that uncirmcized men have 50 to 60 % more pleasure when having sex than circumsized men and I have an uncle who circumcized himself before he got married just because the bride wanted him to, and he says its like he lost a part of him ever since sex isn't as great as it used to and he doesnt get erections as easely as before, but it's really up to the person if you are a guy that sleeps with countless women and want to reduce the chances of getting infected with some std, then get circumsized if you are guy that has sex with one or two women every year then definately don't get circumsized you'll probably regret it, and me oh yeah i'm not but I don't get laid very often, but when I do, I definately seem to have 60% more pleasurable orgasms than the average joe

Originally posted by bartholomeo
I definately seem to have 60% more pleasurable orgasms than the average joe

And you know this how? I am assuming you have watched circumsized guys have sex and they don't seem to enjoy it? I mean, how can you factually make a statement like that?

I am not trying to be a smart alec, but really...when people make this statement and I have heard it made repeatedly, I have to wonder how they "know" this.

[edit on 28-3-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

I meant to say that sarcastically, I didn't mean to offend you or anybody.
I don't know if I have more pleasure than a circumcized guy, I just wanted to get the point accrosed that there is two sides to the coin of being
circumsized or uncircumsized. It's not that I'm a porn junkie, but I have watched my fair share of porn, and I seem to notice that circumsized guys seem pretty damn calm when having sex, even when they release themselves they look dry and emotionless, and if they make any noise or talk dirty it's a give away part of the acting.

...so at least we can conclude that uncircumcised guys are better actors.

Or something.

Originally posted by bartholomeo
I meant to say that sarcastically, I didn't mean to offend you or anybody.

Calm down. You didn't offend me. It's just that I have heard people, even doctors, make the claim that uncircumcised people enjoy sex better, and I have yet to have anyone to really explain to me how they know that. There was no offense taken.

Well... you line up a bunch of guys, and then bring in a fluffer, and... erm... nevermind.

I don't see how circumcision would help prevent a virus... bacterial infections of course, but viruses? The chances of contracting HIV through heterosexual (read: vaginal) intercourse, without a condom, are pretty low to begin with.

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Ah, here we go... apparently another study was done in December.

www.suntimes.com...

Circumcision removes the foreskin that covers the head of the penis. Researchers suggested possible reasons uncircumcised men are more subject to HIV infections:

• • The foreskin's inner surface contains more immune cells vulnerable to HIV infection.

• • The foreskin traps HIV next to the surface of the penis, and in this moist environment, the virus can survive longer.

• • Small foreskin tears caused by intercourse provide an entryway for the virus.

[edit on 28-3-2007 by apc]

That's a bunch of B.S.

Why would you want to disfigure something natural?

Really, the chances to contract any STD have to be the same.

If you don't want to get STD's then don't sleep around, it's as simple as that.

Oh yeah, I hear a lot of women prefer the "pig in the blanket" instead.

EDIT

[edit on 28-3-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by thehumbleone
Why would you want to disfigure something natural?

For the same reason sometimes you have to get your tonsils cut out or your appendix removed. Just because you're born with it doesn't mean it won't be detrimental. You gotta remember... half the medical problems we have are a result of the fact that we live waaaaay longer than we did when we first evolved. Who cared if they picked up an STD if they probably wouldn't live to see 30?

It does make sense, because women have a higher risk of contracting HIV than men in general. There's more area and skin to hold the infected fluids in, much like on an uncircumcised penis.

xEphon: I think it's incredibly ignorant to say "don't have sex with HIV+ people." Many people with HIV don't know they have it, and let's face it, people cheat on one another. Your spouse could be having an affair with someone HIV and then, like magic, you have HIV. Newsflash: It is possible to get HIV from having sex with someone you only assume doesn't have HIV.


Since the topic of circumcision vs. natural has moved on to pleasure, I'll throw in my two cents. I would like to see what the measures were for that study where uncircumcised men get 50-60% more pleasure than circumcised men. How exactly can that be measured?? As for preference... I can't speak for all of us ladies, but I prefer uncircumcised. When speaking with other females and the topic comes to uncircumcised penises, the response is typically "ewww!" Personally, I think they're easier to "manually stimulate" and far more amusing, not to mention it feels way better to me.

they stole my flesh.

Originally posted by airrikka
I would like to see what the measures were for that study where uncircumcised men get 50-60% more pleasure than circumcised men. How exactly can that be measured??

From what I've seen, these studies that show dramatically less pleasure and sensitivity in circumcised men use men that were circumcised later in life, rather than as infant like most men are. It is thought that if done early, the nerves reconfigure themselves so that little if any sensitivity and pleasure from stimulation is lost, but if done as an adult, the man can suffer a dramatic loss of sensivity and pleasure from sex.

I will keep my holy skin, thank you very much I love it, cuz its more sensitive that way, and also, if you are curcumsized, what is gonna protect your vulnerable pp? It needs protection, warmth, a blanket, but I'm serious, I imagine if I was curcumsized, I would feel so vulnerable,,,, besides sex HAS to be better that way oh yeah, if you don't wanna get AIDS, wear a rubber, if you don't wanna wear a rubber have the person tested before you 2 go "chicabombom" everytime. Simple as that. We (or most of us, especially us Russians, especially those by the name of Russian_soldier ) GOTTA have sex, but we (especially me) ain't takin no chances, I mean if AIDS was quick and painless I would consider it, but I don't like slow painful deaths. Man, I gotta let this rant go: why,,,why,,,why does the greatest thing on earth(sex) have to have such "murderous" sideffects (AIDS, warts, etc, and kids) why?!??!?

imagine a world with no stds, and no unplanned pregancies,, man, that would be a great world, a great world in my dreams

I guess I've said everything needed to be said, peace, for now

and yeah for real, circumed or uncircumed you still can get AIDS, if you get circumed you gonna start riskin it? Yeah thought so, peace