Alien deals with Earth Governments

It would be impossible to hold back a secret so massive like intelligent life from another planet actually setting foot on our planet.

well obviously it isn't a secret if ton's of people beleive it

however , it would not be that difficult even (if it was true) to discredit such a "wild secret"

also people are not ready to allow themselves to beleive things like that so this would make the discrediting willingly lapped up

p.s not saying this is true or untrue just thinking

Not to trouble you but, can you give me an example of how he was debunked? I find a lot of stuff about him and his story being debunked but it is not clear how this conclusion was reached....

Just curious, was this of the "is it real?" series? I ask because according to them, EVERYTHING has been debunked!! I have read reviews and summaries of this History channel special.

I can honestly say, without all the info from the special, you can call him a fake as easily as I can grant him credability. I don't know there is enough to ask someone not to repeat a story or name. It seems still an uncertain mystery to me.

Originally posted by Diplomat

First of all, nice "story." Second of all, if we have this superior technology that can, as you say, "keep ANY enemy of the US at bay," then how the hell do you explain Al Qaeda attacking us? How did we let Pearl Harbor get bombed like that if we have this super-secret technology? LOL... that story is a bunch of B.S.

I'm gonna butt in for a second. I'm not agreeing that there is a pact with the govt or aliens. It does seem kind of weird that they would even make a pact if they are so advanced. The only way this may seem possible is if these extraterrestrials are governed or are policed by a far more advanced civilization than the ones that would make that pact. You know, maybe they are required to ask for permission other wise they would get reprimanded. As your quote above, isn't there inconsistencies to the official stories surrounding those two events that you brought up?

Originally posted by WAZZIT32

www.american.edu...

I just finished reading through this study by Michael Salla

Its a great piece of work, and deserves to be read.

I've heard him interviewed on Coast to Coast. I shall listen a little more carefully from now on.

Thank you Souls, We are of course talking about the cold war....not the attack of Al Quaida.

When you pick out quotesfrom a larger post like "keep any us enemy at bay" you need to keep them in context. It just makes you look like you have an agenda of your own.

Not that I think you do of course...(glare)

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
Thank you Souls, We are of course talking about the cold war....not the attack of Al Quaida.

When you pick out quotesfrom a larger post like "keep any us enemy at bay" you need to keep them in context. It just makes you look like you have an agenda of your own.

Not that I think you do of course...(glare)

WTF are you talking about? Cold war? I was addressing what he said. And just so you know yes I do have an agenda. What?

Souls,

I was thanking you for pointing out the different times.

My comments were directed to diplomat not you Souls.
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't divy those remarks out very well.

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I've watched the Corso show on the history channel,and yes it was "Is It Real".As far as Corso being debunked,I didn't see it that way.They merely gave other possibilities as to how certain technology came about.Thats all. I'm not sure about the pact thing,I read pretty much the same thing Wazzit32 stated.I believe that almost anything is possible.

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Originally posted by WAZZIT32
Not to trouble you but, can you give me an example of how he was debunked? I find a lot of stuff about him and his story being debunked but it is not clear how this conclusion was reached....

They basically went through each "technology" that Corso claims we got from Aliens. They showed who "really" invented the technologies and how they did it.

Thanks for clearing that up. "is it real" is the worst source of debunking material on the planet. Source=ME! Some of the arguments are as unbelievable as the actual thing they are debunking. It really disappointed me to see how one sided that program can be. Not giving both perspectives but only digging for anything to debunk it.

If this topic of Philip Corso's claims interests you, do not hesitate to research and read up on it. There is so much more than I can possibly remember to reapeat here on a whim. I personally "mostly" believe it. I do think it is a crazy crazy story. Of course like I said in other threads, it's the small things that most wouldn't bother with that go a long ways to convince me!!

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
Thanks for clearing that up. "is it real" is the worst source of debunking material on the planet. Source=ME! Some of the arguments are as unbelievable as the actual thing they are debunking. It really disappointed me to see how one sided that program can be. Not giving both perspectives but only digging for anything to debunk it.

If this topic of Philip Corso's claims interests you, do not hesitate to research and read up on it. There is so much more than I can possibly remember to reapeat here on a whim. I personally "mostly" believe it. I do think it is a crazy crazy story. Of course like I said in other threads, it's the small things that most wouldn't bother with that go a long ways to convince me!!

What are you talking about? That program showed how each technology was really invented or discovered. How can you argue that? Do you really believe that Aliens gave us lasers and microchips?

ummm....yes!

Just becase we can build it doesn't mean we weren't given the tools elsewhere. How shortsighted can you be? Think outside the box.

99% sure governments are NOT in deals with aliens. I believe this to be the biggest hoax out of the lot. It is disinformation to make you think our governments have more control than they really do.

The abductions and mutilations are all part of the Cointelpro program. Greys do not need to create hybrids or any of that, that is us distorting their own history. Yes they have come to earth, yes they are a dominating race, but only because they were designed to be that way in order to influence OUR growth as a race. They are dominating because their heart centres have atrophy, ie they feel no emotion (until they realised every other race has this working chakra system apart from them!).

Our power systems are the reminants of the system they helped install (the greys), its just that some humans decided they did't want to give up the new found power and knowledge they have over others.

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
ummm....yes!

Just becase we can build it doesn't mean we weren't given the tools elsewhere. How shortsighted can you be? Think outside the box.

What do you mean "just because we can build it?" The program showed people/organizations who DISCOVERED the technology on their own years ago. They go on to explain how they discovered it and all of the different people who were involved. If the technology was really just handed over to us from Aliens, then there wouldn't be all of these people who REALLY invented the technology...

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
99% sure governments are NOT in deals with aliens. I believe this to be the biggest hoax out of the lot. It is disinformation to make you think our governments have more control than they really do.

The abductions and mutilations are all part of the Cointelpro program. Greys do not need to create hybrids or any of that, that is us distorting their own history. Yes they have come to earth, yes they are a dominating race, but only because they were designed to be that way in order to influence OUR growth as a race. They are dominating because their heart centres have atrophy, ie they feel no emotion (until they realised every other race has this working chakra system apart from them!).

Our power systems are the reminants of the system they helped install (the greys), its just that some humans decided they did't want to give up the new found power and knowledge they have over others.

And where exactly are your sources for all this information? You talk about Alien species as if you've been to their planet and studied them first-hand or something. You tell people that the Aliens/Government story is false, but then go on making even more ridiculous claims about aliens' emotions etc etc... Do you have some evidence/proof/links/something or do you just expect people to believe your stories just because?

Terra Forming 2012. I'm gonna make some T - Shirts.

Originally posted by Diplomat
Do you have some evidence/proof/links/something or do you just expect people to believe your stories just because?

No. I couldn't care less if people don't believe what i do, also, its not my job to convince people of the truth, only to put the information i have collected together out there.

My sources...just about everything! I dont even know where to begin on that one!

Originally posted by Dulcimer
It would be impossible to hold back a secret so massive like intelligent life from another planet actually setting foot on our planet.

I disagree with your apparent assumption that the bigger and more fantasic a secret is the harder it is to hide....
The reality of the matter is (as any propaganda expert will tell you) that the bigger the lie the easier it is to swallow.
And in fact if you make a lie so big almost everybody will buy it... hook, line and sinker.....

And when the lies get this big it does not even matter if every scrap of evidence is pointing in completely the other direction......

Originally posted by shrunkensimon

Originally posted by Diplomat
Do you have some evidence/proof/links/something or do you just expect people to believe your stories just because?

No. I couldn't care less if people don't believe what i do, also, its not my job to convince people of the truth, only to put the information i have collected together out there.

My sources...just about everything! I dont even know where to begin on that one!

Why do you bother wasting your time making claims that you know damn well are going to be questioned by people here on this board? You say you don't care if people believe you, then why are you even here trying to tell us about these things? No one is going to believe your ridiculous stories without some kind of evidence or proof, so why don't you just save everyone the hassle and keep your fairy tales to yourself if you don't want to try and prove them any further?