Hi, ATSGUY, cyberdude78, and antar!!
First,
ATSGUY, you said,
In all instances, i would learn, train, and help people as much as i could...if i could stop 9/11 i would.anything to help anyone, as long as it was
the right thing to do.
This would be my inclination too. In fact, if I knew I could do it successfully, I would try to prevent as much suffering as possible.
The big question is, however, why was that suffering allowed in the first place? Why didn't anyone with this technology travel back to prevent so
much pain?
It is clear that human beings have endured terrific, unimaginable suffering, and it has been allowed to continue unabated for centuries.
Why? What is the purpose?
I think the answer may be a reasonable one, and we simply aren't privy to the expansive viewpoint that would allow us the broad perspective necessary
to understand why.
From where I sit, the suffering is pointless. And it needs to end. I don't want to hear some metaphysical proverb about how suffering builds
character, or strengthens the soul. From where I sit, I'd rather be without it, end of story.
I'm not discounting, however, that there may be a perspective where all of this is necessary, but until I get there I'm going to be incensed by the
suffering and torture human beings are forced to suffer at each other's hand.
If someone wishes to inflict hardship - exert their will - onto another person, then let god give them a human toy, or clone to play with. Don't
allow individuals to entrap, torture and abuse others. I'm lost on this issue.
cyberdude, you said,
The only problem with that is that you run the risk of causing more problems by helping. I'm sure you have the best intentions, but what if by
stopping 9/11 you prevent the invasion of Afghanistan, thus allowing the Al-Queda to build a nuclear bomb? Stuff like that.
I think it's for the better that if any of us go back in time that nobody touch anything.
This thread was actually opened at the behest of someone who believes they have time traveled. From what they described, if I can summarize, they said
that they were able to change certain events, or prevent certain things from happening, but were absolutely unable to change others.
This individual said that there were things that he tried several times to change, but they just kept occurring. I don't have an example, but I
wanted to state this so you could see that there may actually be guidelines in place, sort of like a holy safety net, where those who use this
technology aren't allowed to affect too large a sphere of change, or too deep a level of change.
I have learned from this individual that there are races that act as sort of guardians of time travel in this universe. These beings can track every
portal that is opened, and can direct and control where that portal ends up.
This is not an all or nothing proposition, from what I understand. There are layers upon layers - higher and higher levels - of races and beings in
this universe, and they extend all the way to the creator, or godhead - whatever you want to call it.
The levels closest to the godhead are still operating under the creator, and may themselves experience the things that this person experienced even at
their level; i.e., the effect of natural laws, or guidelines that prevent, guide, and control every molecule of this universe...It's a lot to think
about.
In short, whatever we are able to do - regardless of how advanced it seems to be - we are in a playground built by intelligences and consciousnesses
beyond our comprehension. We aren't going to be able to end our race simply by toying around with time travel. Ain't gonna happen.
But your sentiments are understandable. If you think too much about it - and I agreed with you at some point - it boggles the mind how much
opportunity there is for folly. The good part is, we can't play with it if it's going to affect our entire race. This is why the kibosh is being put
on nuclear weapon use.
Hi, antar, you said,
Yes I would, and I would do it to bring new and advanced technology to this time frame.
I would also attempt to change through the military the abduction scenario which although unproven is a possibility.
I would also use the info as leverage for more conscious clean future for all. In other words I would use future technology as black mail for better
world.
Yes, yes, and yes. I would do all of these things too. Assist on a major scale.
Also,
However for personal reasons I would love to be close to the ones I loved who have passed on. Not being able to change their fates would be a problem
I could not promise to change.
You will see them all again. Your inclination may be to change their fates, but I wonder what they would say about that...Not that I wouldn't
consider it myself...
I opened this thread, and wanted to respond to all of you for posting. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts!!
We will learn the answers we seek soon - in our lifetime. My belief - and hope - is that we learn these things over the next sixty-six months (yes,
sometime between now and 2012...).
Thanks again and have an excellent week!!