Has Earth been growing?

Has Earth been growing? As ludicrous as it may sound, I just finished watching a video that explains that it has been growing through time.

The video explains the reasoning behind why the continents fit so well together and why scientists have found species of animals and plants related from one continent to another.

It's definitely a good video to watch if you like alternative thinking

fasinating to say the least . seams to be sound science behind this new theroy after seeing the way these plates fit toghter on a world scale its hard to ignor the possibilty that this may be what accored .
BUT and this is a BIGGG but theres still one thing to explane were did all the extra water come fromm ??
take a look at the oceans and you find places were its 7 MILES deep. To put it simply thats more water then I could easly calcate millions of gallons?no billions of gallons? no trillions of gallons again NO.
so what comes after trillions ? lol
The point is according to this model earth wasent much bigger then mars 180 million years agaio so if there was nothing but shallow seas at the time were did all the extra water come from?
and if the amount of water on earth today is the same then that earth if it excisted would had to have been almost compleatly covered in water.
Humm can you say water world ? keven kosner would love that place lol.
anyway as much as this looks like a good theroy untill someone explanes were all the extra water came from ill hold my jugement on it.
Ps I love science but No theroy on the water problem springs to mind .
1 water cant be compacted so that rules out it comming in that large of amounts from inside the earth after if the oceans of water were under the ground the earths size would still be nearly the same reguardless of the depth in the ground of the water as water cant be compacted (well much )
lets see so hummm can we aquate all that extra water with comets hitting earth? is 180 million years long enough for the number needed?
well if earth was struck that manny times by that manny comets I would think there would be more evedence of that and yet wile we have no trouble finding big impact sites - the gulf of mexico being the possible dino killer theres not nearly enough to account for this much water .
were talking hundreds of thousands of comets the size of halyes apx 7 miles in circomference .
implying most of the water on earth was part of earth and relised through valcanic activity in the first billion years or so implaying the earths size must have still been within the range it is now.
so how anyone is going to reckinsile this into this new theroy Id love to see.

Hey dj---Each day Earth is believed to gain over 1000 tons of mass from the infall of tiny meteorites. Most of these meteorites are the size of a dust particle or sand grain,so simple math - means in 1000 years the earth will gain 356.000.000 TONS in 1 year so imagine 1,000,000 years . So that tells us the earth is growing every day

Originally posted by xcalbiersword
BUT and this is a BIGGG but theres still one thing to explane were did all the extra water come fromm ??

I think you must have misunderstood what the whole video was implying. The water has always been here. We were a planet of water at one point. The plates started to move apart as the earth grew. It makes sense then on the water issue. The water covered the entire globe not just in pockets kind of like it does now.

Have you ever had a chance to get into Utah near Park City? This is up in the mountain range there. My family and I went on vacation there about 5 years ago. We saw something pretty amazing. We took a 1 high hike (remember, we're already at a very high elevation as it is) and ended up in this cave. Inside of this cave, embedded in the walls, are fossils of sea shells and sea creatures. It's absolutely crazy to think about how high the water level has to have been. Since these mountain ranges are pretty big (the Rockies after all), it would only make sense that the water had to pretty much cover the entire planet except maybe the highest mountain peaks.

So, with expansion, the sea levels have dropped. It can also explain why the Great Salt Lake used to occupy 35,000 square miles between the Rockies and the Cascades.

It's a tough one to swallow because it goes completely against what we were taught. But remember this much, in the 50's and early 60's it was a ludicrous idea that the continents even fit together in the first place.

Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that expansion is a natural act of our universe. Everything is expanding. Stars, solar systems, galaxies. Heck, even our moon is moving away from us at roughly an inch per year. A few billion years ago it took up most of the sky both night and day. Now, normally, a silver dollar can block it out completely when you hold it at arms length.

This theory isn't completely off the wall. It just goes against what the hard heads believe.

I certainly believe that this is how Earth has formed. The evidence the video presents is just too much to be coincidence. If any scientists here find any errors with the video's presentation, please post.

It's interesting to think that Earth may very well continue to grow. If it survives another few billion years, it could very well be double the size.

[edit on 2-4-2007 by DJMessiah]

The earth does indeed expand along with the rest of the universe. Also, despite what some may think, the earth actually feeds off of carbon dioxide. The trees breathe it and produce air, et cetera..

In the video you said that dinosaurs romed the earth back in the day when the world was "smaller" and there were no oceans....but didn't life start in the ocean...or at least in water? I'm not knocking your theory or the video....sounds pretty convincing and makes sense. I thought the ocean acted as a giant soup bowl mixing organisms, etc... together, and then over time they got more and more complex.

btw, great video

[edit on 6/5/2007 by SportyMB]

I really liked that video DJMessiah
Makes since to me. The universe is expanding, the Sun is getting bigger because of its internal pressure is exceeding the gravitational force so are the stars. The earth is very much alive as is the universe. I don't know if there was Ice that melted and made the oceans back then. There was an ice age, several actually. Here's some videos to watch of earth and planets.
www.nealadams.com...
Good thread DJMessiah hope to here alot more input and theory's about this so I'll keep an eye on this one. Thanks

VERY interesting.

Makes sense to me.

Questions:


What causes the earth's expansion?

Does the concept of expansion include the idea of contraction? (Ie., Is expansion part of a larger cycle?)

If expansion precludes contraction, then when does it stop? Or does it? Is expansion an infinite process, ending in explosion?

I had seen this about two years ago.
What gets me is that the split deep in the pacific is newer then the continental shelf.
It seems to back up his hypothosis does it not?
but how much has the earth grown?
Where did all the extra water come from
in essence we gained water, more water then he can account for, basicly he is also saying we gained oceans



[edit on 6-5-2007 by junglelord]

No, the Earth isn't growing. That's easily proven by the geologic columns (the rock layers that the Earth is composed of.) If the Earth was growing, we wouldn't have beds of limestone. Limestone is made by corals and diatoms; things that live only under the ocean. His visually rigged (continents don't look exactly like that) demonstration doesn't take that into account.

Bottom line: visuals are impressive, but he slept through science class (and probably flunked geology.) He's a great artist, but let's not rely on him for any science knowledge.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The earth does indeed expand along with the rest of the universe. Also, despite what some may think, the earth actually feeds off of carbon dioxide. The trees breathe it and produce air, et cetera..

Are you implying the Earth grows from the carbon dioxide tree's intake?

By the way tree's do not produce "air"

I love the way they use the 'fit' of Pangea to show that the Earth was smaller - conveniently ignoring the fact that the continents had to come together to form Pangea, having previously broken apart from Rodinia, and at least one other supercontinent before that. In a few hundred million years the current continents will again merge into one 'super continent. Oops!

Or perhaps the Earth expands and subtracts again? Breathing in an out? Arrgghh! The Earth's alive ........

I really liked the video.. it does make a lot of sense but i wonder if they have just used a computer program to make it look like the continents fit (by stretching and distorting) when in actual fact they dont.

Originally posted by Essan
Arrgghh! The Earth's alive ........

It's not alive in the human form but the earth is alive. It supplies oxygen, nitrogen, argon, carbon dioxide etc. It supplies wator, grows grass, trees, plants, bacteria etc.. It has veins of lava and volcanoes that grow land. It has a core which is the heart of the earth. It has energy, lightning, rain, wind, fire,snow, ice, etc. The earth spins and reshapes itself. It has veins of water( rivers, channels, creeks, lakes and streams). It has a magnetic field which generates electric current. It's earth's immune system and deflects the solar particles that's hazardest to our health. It has ocean currents and abundent life. So yes I think the earth is alive in it's own way. I also believe that life supports life. All of life on earth keeps the earth alive. I think we support each other and when certain life disappears from our earth so does some other life that was supported by it. So with volcanoes still active and materials coming in from outspace and landing on our planet, I do believe the earth is growing. Think about it. We're moving faster than we could actually imagine ourselfs through space and our universe. We have to be picking up dust and debri along the way. That's my view of our rock.

It doesnt explain things that plate tectonics does not. So yeah its a bit of the same....

pubs.usgs.gov...

See the above link for a quick rundown of plate tectonics,

Plate tectonics is a relatively new scientific concept, introduced some 30 years ago, but it has revolutionized our understanding of the dynamic planet upon which we live.

But revolutionising our understanding isn't quite as profound as it seems, considering....

The theory of continental drift would become the spark that ignited a new way of viewing the Earth. But at the time Wegener introduced his theory, the scientific community firmly believed the continents and oceans to be permanent features on the Earth's surface. Not surprisingly, his proposal was not well received, even though it seemed to agree with the scientific information available at the time. A fatal weakness in Wegener's theory was that it could not satisfactorily answer the most fundamental question raised by his critics: What kind of forces could be strong enough to move such large masses of solid rock over such great distances? Wegener suggested that the continents simply plowed through the ocean floor, but Harold Jeffreys, a noted English geophysicist, argued correctly that it was physically impossible for a large mass of solid rock to plow through the ocean floor without breaking up.

Plate tectonics still cannot answer this fundamental problem.

As for where all the water came from, how about, I don't know, the combination of hydrogen and oxygen? Although the general concensus is that most of the water on Earth was actually created during star formation, it isn't known for sure. Have you honestly never seen water pouring from the exhaust of a diesel engine? You get much more with bio-diesel, but it is a common biproduct in plenty of chemical reactions.

Originally posted by timoothy
Hey dj---Each day Earth is believed to gain over 1000 tons of mass from the infall of tiny meteorites. Most of these meteorites are the size of a dust particle or sand grain,so simple math - means in 1000 years the earth will gain 356.000.000 TONS in 1 year so imagine 1,000,000 years . So that tells us the earth is growing every day

I was just gonna post this.

Imagine how much weight is sent off of the Earth by our governments, though. We've got satellites, missiles, spacecrafts, who knows what else...

Originally posted by timoothy
Hey dj---Each day Earth is believed to gain over 1000 tons of mass from the infall of tiny meteorites. Most of these meteorites are the size of a dust particle or sand grain,so simple math - means in 1000 years the earth will gain 356.000.000 TONS in 1 year so imagine 1,000,000 years . So that tells us the earth is growing every day

Barely, though. Doing the math on my calculator, even after 180 million years of accumulation, the Earth gained roughly .00001% of it's own weight based on the figures you provided. The mass of the incoming material over that period of time is roughly 5 orders of magnitude less than the mass of the Earth.

3.318*10^11 kg * 1.8*10^8 years=5.972*10^19 kg
Mass of the Earth=5.9742 × 10^24 kg

So, where'd it all come from?

[edit on 13-9-2007 by lonemaverick]

Has anyone considered that the earth could be growing during its heating cycles and likewise shrinking during the cooling cycles. The rifts and faults could be to earth, like the potholes are to streets up north?

If global warning continues, could the earth explode like a balloon? (not really serious with this)