PS3, cancer

I could swear that I saw on TV that they were going to use PS3's for cancer if anyone could help me leave a commont thank u.

probably to keep kids entertained while they are going through cancer treatment. I cant think of any other use of a ps3...... ITS ALL ABOUT THE WIIIIIIIIIIII

I am a 360 man myself, but if anyone could relay any links or something it would be a big help.

PS3 will have a limited effect on the folding@home project unless it's default idle mode is ON which could piss off a lot of people methinks. Wii is great as is 360 but my fave platform for anything (including this) is the good ole Personal Computer.

All of the PS3's online will process some of the equations to look for possible cancer cures. www.afterdawn.com...

Its sort of like the SETI@home program: setiathome.berkeley.edu...

All it means is that some of your PS3's processing will be used by someone else.

thanx, it sound like a good idea, it show how a consol can be of real use

Sardion--

I agree with everything you said. The folding@home project is a great idea, but unless enough people are running the software for enough time, it won't do any good... and there are tens of thousands of people that won't run the software at all because they don't know what it is or does.

But all that is moot because consoles are for people that can't operate a PC

if they do it for 360, i will leave mine on as much as i can, my mom has had 2 cancers so it will be real useful.

Check out these threads:

Stanford Helps Fight Alzheimer's with PS3

PS3's to help science community?

wow i wasnt expecting that. I do find it hard to believe that it could actually work but its a nice idea.

A fast PC will do Folding @ home or whatever it is over three times as fast as Ps3.

PC's are already being used for the project, the news is that the PS3 is to be added to the list of devices working on the calculations while idle.

It's to be a feature on the PS3, of which you have the option of using or not using... it's all in the network setup area of the game console.

And this stuff does work. The Seti@home project proves it.

I just read a news article a couple of days ago that mentions the benefits of video game play, and that it increases eye site.

Here's a story related to that.

When reading the title, I thought it was referring to something similar to the PAL PS2 system adapters that were found to contain a plastic that is known to cause cancer.

It's the "Cell" processor in the PS3 that has researchers excited. The Cell processor is designed for distributed processing. "Stuff" with Cell processors lend them self’s real well to linking themselves together. If everyone keeps their PS3s turned on and connected to the web, someday we'll have a world wide, distributed, self aware computing system.

I think I read somewhere they want to call this big self aware synthetic awareness "Big Online Realization Gear." Just imagine how cool it will be when it shows the capability to assimilate all of mankind’s knowledge.

One potential problem I have with my spare processor cycles being used to find cures for Cancer. Since the public will have helped developing the drugs, will the public be allowed to vote on how much profit drug companies will be allowed to make on these drugs?


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Originally posted by hlesterjerome

I think I read somewhere they want to call this big self aware synthetic awareness "Big Online Realization Gear." Just imagine how cool it will be when it shows the capability to assimilate all of mankind’s knowledge.

BORG, thats funny. Scary funny.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome

One potential problem I have with my spare processor cycles being used to find cures for Cancer. Since the public will have helped developing the drugs, will the public be allowed to vote on how much profit drug companies will be allowed to make on these drugs?

[edit on 21-3-2007 by hlesterjerome]

Whats the matter with you? Thats completely the wrong idea to have. This whole "lets punish pharma/business" crap has got to stop. Why not consider profiting yourself from this? Instead of trying to petty and limit profits how about demanding because you helped in the research you get a piece of the profits or that all those who shared processing time get the drug as needed?
Why is it always the first reaction to punish and harm? Limit profit! Tax oil! Tax industry! Not one of these things helps you or any of us. All they do is shrink the profit margins which in turn shrink wages/employability and with the taxing, taxing, taxing, all that does is make the government richer. We all know how well they manage money.

Is it some generational phenomena or is it something in the government schools or the water that turns everyone into some government enslaved peon rather than an individual with entrepenueral drive?

What is it?

Keep spending all this time eating the rich and you'll never get anywhere yourselves. If you dont want to get anywhere then why the resentment toward those who have gotten somewhere?

Sorry, this may not be your mindset at all but statements like "tax the rich" make me so mad. Those ideas are so counter productive, short sighted and rarely thought through beyond "sticking it to tha' man" whatever that means.

Taking money away from your employer and handing it to the government just seems to be sticking it to yourselves. My 2 cents.

As far as a PS3 helping find a cure for cancer, I don't think that is true by any means. Afterdawn.com is known for boasting outlandish claims. First off, you would have to install a program on your PS3...which is not possible, for the PS3 is a console, not a PC. The PS3 is geared towardss gaming calculations and physics. It cannot prcoess "Thousands of trillions" of calcualtions as Afterdawn.com boasts. You wouldn't be able to use your PS3 if you wanted to. Also, the PS3 cell processor is not the same as a cell processor in a PC or super computer, the architecture is different. If you understand how both Cell proccessors work, then you will understand what I am trying to get across. This is a ploy by the Sony fanboys/girls trying to promote a failed product.

The thing is. America is facing a Medical Care crisis that is directly related profit mongering.

Seriously, how much of a profit margin is to be considered acceptable? 100%? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000%

Drug Company’s claim that it is necessary to charge so much fer medicine because of high R&D costs.

If drug Company’s end up spending less on R&D because the public DONATES their spare processing cycles, I don't feel it's unreasonable to ask that drug companies not profiteer on the kindness of the public.

I have no interest in making a profit on this, but I would like to see the costs of medicine be reasonable.

You want to be the one to tell someone they cannot receive a medical treatment that may save their life because they don’t have the $200,000 to pay for the treatment, after the insurance company has decided they can’t pay because their condition is “pre existing”?

Are you suggesting that, even though I live in a supposedly Democratic society, I should just sit back and shut up if I’m not thrilled with the way things are being run?

Sorry, I think drug company profit mongering causes more pain and suffering in the USA than people crying for a little fairness.

Dude, seriously

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First off, you would have to install a program on your PS3...which is not possible.
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Not correct, it IS possible to install a program on your PS3, if said program was written and compiled to run on the PS3.

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The PS3 is a console, not a PC
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A console IS a PC. It’s not a general purpose PC, it’s tailored to play games, but it’s still a very powerful PC.

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Also, the PS3 cell processor is not the same as a cell processor in a PC or super computer, the architecture is different.
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Actually, the Cell Processor is brand new. No super computers use it yet. The Cell Processor IS a general purpose processor, not designed for playing games, but designed to do parallel and distributed processing.

There is only one base Cell Processor architecture at this time.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome

Seriously, how much of a profit margin is to be considered acceptable? 100%? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000%

As long as people are willing to pay they can make as much as they want. Before you suggest they will price everything out of the reach of the majority consider that many paying less will always produce mor eof a profit then a few paying alot.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome
Drug Company’s claim that it is necessary to charge so much fer medicine because of high R&D costs.

R&D takes decades and millions. This is one of the reason things get rushed through the FDA before theyve been tested properly. Proper testing costs an obscene amount of money because of government regulations.

Researchers and lab techs dont make much money. Theyre lucky to break 50K/year. Execs can make as much as they want. If they want to bleed their company dry and go out of business its their choice.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome

I have no interest in making a profit on this, but I would like to see the costs of medicine be reasonable.

So would I. I believe that a truly free market will allow for the competition necessary to bring the costs down.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome
You want to be the one to tell someone they cannot receive a medical treatment that may save their life because they don’t have the $200,000 to pay for the treatment, after the insurance company has decided they can’t pay because their condition is “pre existing”?

Are you in America? Nobody is refused health care. Insurance companies dump people all the time and when they do the patients are never expected to go bankrupt to flip the bill. There is an abundance of programs for reducing fees, spreading out payments and in some cases having all of your care paid for by the taxpayers. Its an absolute myth that people are turned away or forced to pay off a quarter million in fees. Im sure some, who are largely ignorant of such aid, actually do feel forced to make these payments but they arent.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome
Are you suggesting that, even though I live in a supposedly Democratic society, I should just sit back and shut up if I’m not thrilled with the way things are being run?

Make all the noise you want. Id just like it to be based on facts and math rather than feelings and heart. BTW, this is a Republic.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome
Sorry, I think drug company profit mongering causes more pain and suffering in the USA than people crying for a little fairness.

Youre thinking with your emotions again. And calling for Socialism.

Originally posted by hlesterjerome
Dude, seriously

Yup.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
BORG, thats funny. Scary funny.

You like acronyms?
Wanna join my organization?

Whats the matter with you? Thats completely the wrong idea to have. This whole "lets punish pharma/business" crap has got to stop.

True enough. The FDA on the other hand should be tried for treason. Our government is not a corporation, and our health is not a commodity.

Why is it always the first reaction to punish and harm? Limit profit! Tax oil! Tax industry! Not one of these things helps you or any of us. All they do is shrink the profit margins which in turn shrink wages/employability and with the taxing, taxing, taxing, all that does is make the government richer. We all know how well they manage money.

They make new ways to kill brown people?
No no, wait, I know. They buy paper plates at $500 a pop from Halliburton?
I've got it. They work on flying saucers and free energy technology but hide it from us... and use anything they learn to kill brown people.

Is it some generational phenomena or is it something in the government schools or the water that turns everyone into some government enslaved peon rather than an individual with entrepenueral drive?

What is it?

Actually, it's the schools, but I'm not in the mood to even bother getting into that right now.

Keep spending all this time eating the rich and you'll never get anywhere yourselves. If you dont want to get anywhere then why the resentment toward those who have gotten somewhere?

Sorry, this may not be your mindset at all but statements like "tax the rich" make me so mad. Those ideas are so counter productive, short sighted and rarely thought through beyond "sticking it to tha' man" whatever that means.

Well, now this just sounds like political rhetoric. Reality is much more grey, isn't it.

I know a high school dropout that tooth and clawed his way to millions by starting his own business. As far as I'm concerned he should never be taxed again. He had a terrible start with all of the odds against him, so that's how it should be.
On the other hand, there are little oil baron fetuses that fall from their mothers' uteri onto CEO chairs and then go on to become president (allright, so that's an extreme case). These walking abortions are only involved in such enterprise because that's where they landed. They should be taxed, but taxes don't really help, as we've already seen with our "brown people" theory, so what do we do?

Taking money away from your employer and handing it to the government just seems to be sticking it to yourselves. My 2 cents.

What if the government is your employer? Then you'd like taxes because...
no wait, I forget, we need to kill brown people.