Vitamin B17 kills cancer

I would like to add to Lexion's post since his source may be questioned.

cyanide, a poisonous substance that can cause dangerously elevated acid levels in the body, seizures, coma, and death. Under certain unusual circumstances, cyanide poisoning can follow the ingestion of seeds or pits of several common fruits that are members of the Prunus species, including, apricots, cherries, almonds, and peaches, as well as apples. All of these seeds and pits contain amygdalin.

Apricot pits and bitter almond, a completely separate food from commonly consumed sweet almonds, may cause significant illness or even death if chewed and swallowed, but these are not foods most people would find appetizing.

Unfortunately unappetizing dangerous foods is considered a staple for good health these days. Hmmmf...

Source

That website actually says that an accidental ingestion should not cause problems, but when people actually tell you to OD on it.. it could definately become a problem.

Lies. I am from Romania, as a child in 1990 I always ate apricot seeds whenever I ate apricots. They are not bad to eat, taste good. As you can see I am not dead and I did not feel any ilness. It's not just myself, everyone at that time did the same. But now with these modern times I forgot about them or I did not bother to break the seeds for the core inside that can be eaten

Seeing such things like "apricot seeds can kill you" makes me belive that someone does want people to get cancer. I am sure that if you eat only apricot seeds you will die, no excess is good.
7 apricot seeds a day it's a good number.
Apple seeds are the same, and they also contain B17. There was a man who ate a big bowl of apple seeds and died. If he ate the whole apple that would not have happened
www.1cure4cancer.com...
www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk...

[edit on 17-3-2007 by pai mei]

Ok...
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Please, any site that tries to sell me something...nah....

Lex

Edit to add the Order Form For the second site.

[edit on 17-3-2007 by Lexion]

There are people for who chemoterapy does not work, they have nothing to lose. Why do you want them to not try apricot seeds, and all the other B17 diet ? It's cheap and can do no bad. Just don't throw away the seeds if you buy apricots

[edit on 17-3-2007 by pai mei]

I don't understand why everyone is trying so hard to discredit pai mei.
He may not have all of the facts, but he's on the right track.
Cyanide in small quantities isn't going to kill or even hurt anyone. And there is anecdotal evidence that laetrile actually does kill cancer cells in some people.
I've enjoyed my share of apricot pits, apple seeds, and peach pits with no ill effects at all.
This is after all a conspiracy site. Isn't it possible that the drug companies might be spreading bad things about laetrile? Can anyone prove that they aren't?

How about we all give pai mei a break and hear what he has to say?
Refuting his claims with fallacies like "an apple has more caffein than a cup of coffee" is really no way to hold a civilized debate.

Mr. Beer_Guy,
I rescinded my caffeine comment, and apologised.
Please respect a skeptic on his knees.

Lex

Lexion, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I honestly didn't even remember who said it. It's just the one thing that stuck in my head after reading all of the posts.

I've been into alternative medicine since the early 1970s, there have been many snake oil salesmen along the way and many outright lies. One of the things that have been nearly proven (to me anyway) is what the OP is saying about laetrile. And the seeds are pretty tasty too!

OT: Using "natural medicine" I've already "cured" my hypothyroidism and high cholesterol. If I ever get cancer I will finally know for certain if laetrile works, because I'll never take chemotherapy.

we all the know the best place to go when suffering from an injury trauma is the hospital and we all know the drugs we are given there for pain and the like help us get through the procedures and surgery's in a easier way

now the problem is that people associate the same places that TEMPORARILY use BIG PHARMA"S drugs to cure and releive are pain and help us during physical injury's and trauma's as the ONLY OPTION for cures to disease.

again you are looking to these same pharmacutical companies as for a CURE to a disease?

and please they are a business with the goal of every other business of making money sloan kattering tested apricot seeds vs. there standard treatment and were very discouraged in the results that the apricot seeds vastly out preformed there protocols. why would a business be discouraged. you can't trademark natural seeds, this is awful that a possible cure lies in nature (for them) and they were determined to continue to reasearch drugs (not cause there better) but for a profit.
and they are not evil. that's foolish , people are just stupid. no one makes you go to the pharma companies they just market the hell out of stuff and you have to do some work to figure out the solutions that work for others
primarily cultures like the hopi of arizone the hunza of pakistan ( the biggest thing they have in common is eating lots of apricot seeds and also keeping there ph levels high (alkaline)

p.s it's alot better of an idea to just shutup and go and eat the seeds out of 3 apples aday or 1 apricot and prevent unhealthy levels of cancer ( or not) sorry i care about people

me and a bunch of my friends do this and have been for a year and a half
so have tens of thousands of american's who "get it"

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Actually...
cyanide is only deadly through a molecule change, not when it's at it's normal form.. look about the facts on cyanide.

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Don't be a Negative Nancy. While waiting for proof, why don't you have an apple...couldn't hurt, right? An apple a day keeps the doctor away. =)

Originally posted by I_s_i_s
I would like to add to Lexion's post since his source may be questioned.

cyanide, a poisonous substance that can cause dangerously elevated acid levels in the body, seizures, coma, and death. Under certain unusual circumstances, cyanide poisoning can follow the ingestion of seeds or pits of several common fruits that are members of the Prunus species, including, apricots, cherries, almonds, and peaches, as well as apples. All of these seeds and pits contain amygdalin.

Apricot pits and bitter almond, a completely separate food from commonly consumed sweet almonds, may cause significant illness or even death if chewed and swallowed, but these are not foods most people would find appetizing.

Unfortunately unappetizing dangerous foods is considered a staple for good health these days. Hmmmf...

Source

That website actually says that an accidental ingestion should not cause problems, but when people actually tell you to OD on it.. it could definately become a problem.

Oh gosh when I read this post i couldn't help my self stop laughing so much I went to the extent of signing up for ATS to make this reply.
This doctor made a article on how dangerous SEEDS are!?
In the western world we are bottle fed and treated like babies, the sight of a little soil on your celery stick would send some people bonkers. It would most probably be enough for this government approved 'doctor' who wrote this article to write another article on how to make sure you get off every last bit of soil from your veg and salads.

I have swallowed many seeds without chewing in my time and I have also eaten copious amounts of apricot kernels, The reason why I am here is because I was doing research on them again as I did not eat any for a few years and bought some a few weeks ago and eaten well over the government maximum dosage (about 10 times the amount over) and I feel a lot more healthy and proactive.

My personal experience is enough to convince me that Laetrile is a very beneficial natural nutrient. There are many reports on the net about people in the western world who have used this to rid themselves of cancer and I for sure will not be using chemo therapy or radio therapy if i ever do get cancer.
Also I suggest to anyone and everyone to grow your own vegetables and salads and just brush off the soil and eat it like that, stop being week creatures that are so unattached to nature its just unbelievable and start and being more human for a change and eat and experience the produce form this land.

I advise people not to listen to the paranoid ramblings of our good friend Robert H. Shmerling and just eat the bloody seeds! It is a good idea to chew them indeed but there are far more dangerous things in this world to worry about than un chewed seeds and nutrients in apricot kernels.

In fact from looking at both sides of the argument and experiencing a lot of apricot kernels myself Laetrile is only beneficial and in my opinion one of the best investments you could make. Maybe if you eat 100 kernels a day you may get a overdose, even then i highly doubt you will die. As I have eaten easily over 25 in a day and had absolutely no adverse effect.

I am a chef and I can appreciate a wide range of tastes and i like them but it is true apricot kernels are very bitter have a after taste that reminds me of anna seed, if you really don't like these tastes and want to cheat nature you can search around the net you can find extract in pill form or if you really search you can find ground kernels in a capsule which i would suggest any day over the extract pills.

Reading this source he posted was one of the funniest most paranoid ramblings I have read in a while

DOWN WITH THE FDA! Down with the NWO!

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Finally!!! someone who knows what they are talking about!!!

B-17 was banned because it worked, meaning no BIG $$$$$

bucks for the PTB!!!! If you know anyone with cancer, its

worth looking into!!.....imo ...im a nurse.

It does, indeed, ...... know what else kills cancer ??


bullets.


thats the new anti - b vitamin campaign from the f.d.a.

And, about apples. One apple has a higher caffeine content than a cup of
coffee.

Lex

Sorry for the offtopic post, but:

I searched for it, but couldn't find anything about apples containing caffeine..isn't that just an old wives' tale?

Oh and vitamin B17 is called 'amygdaline' in Dutch...we don't use the term B17 anymore. What's also interesting is that the body makes amygdalin by itself.

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If Patrick Swazye would of tryed this and other natural remedies

who would probably still be alive, instead he choose tptb propaganda

having to do with kemo and radiation, which actually kills cancer patients.

I would put little stock in what the FDA has to say; after all, this is the group that approved aspartame as safe for human consumption at the behest of one Donald Rumsfeld.

Many medical studies say otherwise:

Amygdalin (from Greek: ἀμυγδάλη amygdálē “almond”), C20H27NO11, is a glycoside initially isolated from the seeds of the tree Prunus dulcis, also known as bitter almonds, by Pierre-Jean Robiquet[1] and A. F. Boutron-Charlard in 1803, and subsequently investigated by Liebig and Wöhler in 1830, and others. Several other related species in the genus of Prunus, including apricot (Prunus armeniaca) and black cherry (Prunus serotina),[2] also contain amygdalin. It was promoted as a cancer cure by Ernst T. Krebs under the name "Vitamin B17", but studies have found it to be ineffective.[3][4][5]


[3] ^ Ellison NM, Byar DP, Newell GR (September 1978). "Special report on Laetrile: the NCI Laetrile Review. Results of the National Cancer Institute's retrospective Laetrile analysis". N. Engl. J. Med. 299 (10): 549–52. PMID 683212.

[4] ^ Moertel CG, Ames MM, Kovach JS, Moyer TP, Rubin JR, Tinker JH (February 1981). "A pharmacologic and toxicological study of amygdalin". JAMA 245 (6): 591–4. doi:10.1001/jama.245.6.591. PMID 7005480.

[5] ^ a b Moertel CG, Fleming TR, Rubin J, et al. (January 1982). "A clinical trial of amygdalin (Laetrile) in the treatment of human cancer". N. Engl. J. Med. 306 (4): 201–6. doi:10.1007/s00520-006-0168-9. PMID 7033783. content.nejm.org...

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B-17 is toxic!!!

Beta-glucosidase, one of the enzymes that catalyzes the release of the cyanide from amygdalin, is present in human small intestine and in a variety of common foods. This leads to an unpredictable and potentially lethal toxicity when amygdalin or Laetrile is taken orally.

People, be careful of what you want to believe, it could just cost you your life.

Just my 2-cents

EDIT: there's something that strikes me as odd...A tribe w/no cancer. How do we know that? Hell, how do they know that? I would be surprised if anyone in a tribe (assuming natives) would have ever tried conventional medicine or conventional medical diagnostics. So how could they find out if any of them have/or died of cancer. Autopsies, medical diagnostics, real medical studies...can you provide any of these to prove up your claim? OR are we just supposed to believe every 2-bit video that is put up on youtube?

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hahaha.. i find it funny that people say that apple seeds or apricot kernels will kill you, yet you would be happy for your doctor to inject some deadly poison in your body (chemo "therapy").. from what i've read. you have a far better chance of fighting cancer by eating apricot kernels than being bombarded by radiation and chemo. How can any of you explain the B17 rich diets some of these untouched tribes have that never get cancer? look up the science behind how B17 does in fact kill cancer.

hello.
for those interested in the benefits and science of b17 i found a nice article which goes into satisfactory detail

www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk...

it spans numerous pages so make sure to click the more button at the bottom of each page.

happy research

I'm a big believer in laetrile/B17 as I am in any number of repressed cancer therapies that have been around for ages i.e. krebiozen, hoxsey's horse therapy, colostrum, Rife's microscope, Glyoxilide, and the list goes on.

Cancer treatment is a multibillion dollar industry............from the mining companies that mine the radiation ingredients to the doctors that deliver the drugs and all through the chain. If there was a cure you think the economy is bad now.......LOL. That's why the pharmaceutical industry keeps trying to reinvent the wheel as far as cures. There will be a cure......and it will probably be some never before complex biological pathway the industry drums up and the drug will probably come from nature.

However, one thing abotu B17 is the Hunza tribe hysteria. There is a lot of myth regarding the health of the Hunza. And that is one of the tribes that ate a lot of B17.