Three black silhouettes appeared to me & said, "We are now, but someday, you'll be.".

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Maybe the reason more children apparently have this paranormal sensitivity is because of elevated levels of '___' during childhood? Afterall, it is the so called spiritual molecule, and the effects it produces often involve communication with other consciousness life in the trip itself (although its not really a trip).

I never heard of this before, but after doing a little looking around I guess it's been proven the levels are higher. Maybe it's a contributor to this phenomenon in kids. ( In concert with the fact that kids are more inclined to misinterperate as weird situation? )

I would like this to be the case in my situation. I guess it is possible that's what happened to me that night, but if so, I never conjured them up again after that. And I can remember being terrified for months after the incident that I was gonna see them again.

Thanx for the input SS-

2PacSade-

Originally posted by Azathoth
Hmm sounds very similar to "shadow people". I've had things speak to me as well though they weren't robed looking. No mouths either. While most the people that have posted seeing "shadow people" experienced a dread or fear, I didn't have that type of feeling from them. I posted awhile back a way which seems to draw them to a person, but they tend to not leave you alone if you keep practicing it. I believe my daughter is now paying for what I did years before she was born. As for the voices, it wasn't anything dark or forboding in what they told me. My theory is that they live in between dimension, and can cross between them. The problem is that they can not stay indefinately because it drains them. I've had a pretty active life with paranormal things. I lived in a house that was haunted for 14 years. I've seen these shadow people for years after the haunted house.

If its not them, then i don't know what your talking to.

-Aza

Thanx for your thoughts Aza. The theory seems interesting. I guess it could have been something like that, but if I called them, then I did it by accident. I tend to think they sought me out. I also didn't feel anything like "pure evil" from them, but they were not peaceful sounding to me at all either. My grandparents house also produced many strange things, and I experienced some of them 1st hand. A century & a half ago the individual that built the house contracted a terminal illness & shot himself in the house.I never saw the entity, but it was easily felt. It's even more noticeable now that it's gone. We have never felt, seen, or heard anything for years now. It's funny that none of that stuff really scared me when it was happening. It was sometimes quite playful when he would move stuff around & make his presence known.

If I'm being followed by something the likes of what you describe, then I am unaware of their presence.

So your daughter has seen these being? Do you still talk to them? If so, can you ask them if they know what the heck that statement means? Thanx again Aza!

2PacSade-

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
2PacSade,...

Have you thought about the possibility that maybe what you saw were not "ghosts" or "spirits",.... but aliens? Or maybe future humans. Maybe travelers through time. Maybe it was not a personal message to you specifically, but a message to the human race. . .

Yes I have 2MQ, and I can't discount that this may have been what I saw that night. If that's the case then I still just don't understand the purpose? If they came all that way to tell me something important then they did a pretty poor job of expressing their intent.

Thanx for your thoughts-

2PacSade-

Originally posted by somedude
This is a bit of a stretch and I may have concluded something different if I had heard this at a different time, but when i read " WE ARE NOW, BUT SOMEDAY, YOU'LL BE. . ." the first thing that came to mind were those theories about humans transcending in 2012. Perhaps these aren't spirits as we think of them, but rather interdimensional beings that were giving a little hint of things to come. I wonder if any other people in the world have received this message in some experience or another.

This is kinda what Azathoth was eluding to, but with a little twist. And again, I can agree that this is possibly what happened to me. But why me?

If your statement is true, then do you think these entities appeard to the Mayans also? ( You mentioned 2012. )

Thanx Somedude-

2PacSade-

Originally posted by popek

i had something similar when i was younger
funnily enough it was only reading your thread i remembered it

when i was young around 9 or 10 i woke in the night and swore i saw a man above me drop a snake onto my pillow but he seemed shocked to see my eyes open and dropped it down the back of my bed
i then instantly fell back to sleep

the next morning i was so concerned i checked under my bed for a snake there was nothing there but i was still a litte concerned
i kind of convinced myself it was a dream was the whole sillohette thing stands out
this person was inches from my face but yet had no face

there was nothing but something

That's definitely creepy. Yes their faces as stated before were like you described. It was like looking at something that was void of anything.

Thanx for sharing popek-

2PacSade-

Originally posted by acapablemind
Had you been watching Lord of The Rings earlier that day? Lol, I'm joking!

What else went on? Have you seen things since then? Any sort of sign or repetitive occurenc? Anything that would suggest you really WILL BE as well?

To the best of my knowledge I have never encountered them again, but according to other accounts, they may still quietly be there. Thanx-

2PacSade-

We really need to know more.

When I was nine or so, there was a period of several weeks during which I would awake in the early hours.

Immediately, I would pretend I was not awake. No reasoning to it: I just instinctively knew to pretend I was still sleeping soundly.

I don't remember the first time it happened, or the last. But, in the way it is with these things, I remember it vividly.

Obviously, at some point -- upon awakening this way -- I must have seen the 'thing'. Because I knew what it looked like. More importantly, I knew what it felt like.

'It' was tall and ( sorry this is so predictable) it was cloaked and hooded.
It was female. It was bad news.

That was all there was to this nightmare. The thing would stand right next to my bed and stare at me.

I would lie there, pretending to still be asleep. I 'knew' that if I revealed I was really awake, it would 'get' me. Don't know how I knew, I just did.

I'm glossing through this here, but at the time, I was in mortal terror.

Coming close to dawn, the darkness began to lighten just a bit. For some reason, I knew it was safe to really sleep then, because the thing left as dawn approached.

It's really difficult to pretend to be asleep when you're actually awake and terrified. Your nerves feel as if they're going to tear right out of your body, but you have to control that. And you have to maintain regular even 'sleep type' breathing pattern, and movement, etc.

At around the same time, I became obsessed with dying. I wanted to die. I even tried to. Yet what I actually knew about dying and suicide would have fit on the head of a pin. I never told anyone about any of it. Don't know why not.

We moved and the thing stopped hovering over my bed. But I never forgot it.

Decades later, I happened to read an article about a young boy (about 12 or so) who'd begun wetting the bed at night. His parents tried various remedies and eventually took him to a psychiatrist.

The psychiatrist learned from the boy that he (the boy) was being terrified several times a week by a dark, cloaked, female entity which stood next to his bed. This terrified the boy to the extent that he'd regressed to bed-wetting. He'd begun doing badly at school, had lost his appetite, had become withdrawn, etc.

Initially, the psychologist believed that the boy's recent poor school results had caused loss of confidence and that this was responsible for the other problems, including what the doctor believed were nightmares about what was really a non-existent nightmare 'woman' by the boy's bed.

The doctor counselled the parents in various means of restoring the boy's confidence. Several weeks later, the situation was not improved, however.

At that point, the doctor spoke with the parents separately. Prior, he had spoken with them as a couple. To his surprise, the doctor learned that the mother was actually the boy's step-mother. During a series of discussions with the woman, the doctor discovered that -- although not consciously aware of it -- she violently resented the boy, was jealous of the attention paid to him by her husband and desperately wanted to get rid of the child.

On the surface however, the woman appeared as concerned about the boy as was her husband.

The doctor reached the conclusion that while she slept, the step-mother's violent antagonism became freed from its conscious restraints and manifested in something approaching physical form --- as the dark, malevolent figure seen by the boy ! .

In order to achieve a 'cure' for the situation, the doctor treated each member of the family over a period of several months, during which he led the step-mother to a realisation of the animosity she actually harboured against the child. The husband was counselled in how to reassure his wife of his genuine affections for her which were in no way lessened by the love and loyalty he felt towards his son.

When this was accomplished, the boy's return to health was swift and his nightmare visions and other problems ceased.

This story was recounted by the psychiatrist in the Lancet several years ago. Extremely courageous of him.

Could this example be a possible explanation for at least some of the entity experiences we hear of?

The step-mother was not deliberately or consciously projecting her feelings at the boy. Despite this, they or she manifested before the boy in physical form. Whether or not the nightmare-vision was actually a physical or spiritual entity was not clarified in the psychiatrist's account. Suffice to say: the boy believed he was seeing a 3-dimensional entity.

Of course, there are many who DO deliberately project hatred, violence, fear, etc. at their chosen victim/s. And they invest a lot of energy into it.

Others may -- consciously or otherwise -- simply project foulness at random: as a natural outpouring of their diseased state of mind, or whilst under the influence of rage, pain, alcohol, despair, general resentment and ugliness.

Perhaps .......... these emotional tornadoes become negative-thought-forms? Some may have a specific target. Others may be free-floating.

And perhaps those sensitive to such things (generally sensitive or rendered so as the result of fever or trauma etc.) are susceptible to these 'negative thought forms'.

Perhaps such thought-forms are restricted to locations. Perhaps they have a life-span, a half-life and so on.

Perhaps they 'grow' in power as they 'feed' on victims' fear.

In which case, a sensitive or traumatised child may -- whilst in the altered-state of sleep --- 'attract' or become vulnerable to these negative thought forms.

It could be that we are ourselves responsible for sending some of these nasty missiles 'out there'. It's a rare being who hasn't at some time indulged in a hate or misery fest.

How does that pearl of wisdom go ? ... ' Where attention flows, energy goes' ? Something like that.

Although, on a lighter note, if this were the case, we would surely have heard thousands, millions of accounts of huge breasted, sex-crazed beautiful women entities by now .... considering where such a large part of mens' attention and energy (imagination-wise) is invested.

[edit on 16-3-2007 by Dock6]

You have voted Dock6 for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

Thanx so much for all your insightful thoughts concerning this. I really appreciate it. I will read the whole Cahill case because it sounds really interesting.

I found a paperback book lying around work in 1990 that described encounters with MIB. The MIB spoke in fractionalized statements & warnings concerning the future that could not be understood. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up because it was the first time in @ 20 years after my incident that I came across something somewhat describing what happened to me. I tried to get in touch with the author, but I didn't have any luck. ( It was much tougher to get information before Google & Yahoo, etc. ) Unfortunately the book burned in a fire a few months after I tried to find him, and I lost all my notes that were stuck between the pages. . .

The funny thing about this is the fact that even though that book was SO important to me, and I wanted to find the author SO bad. . . I cannot to this day remember the title of the book, or the author's name. I cannot even remember what the book looked like! It's like they have been erased from my memory, which is usually pretty good. This has always puzzled me.

Thanx again Dock6 for all your thoughts-

2PacSade-

its odd how this all seems to happen around the same age

perhaps as someone stated we are more aware

i dont know if anyone has read his dark materials by phillip pullman
obviously fiction
but i beleive there is something about the loss of innocence as you age
you lose the power to freely think

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I know a woman who once saw damned souls. Yes, damned souls. . .
(snip)
. . .Anyways .... your visit could have been from damned souls. Shades. And perhaps they visited you because you will be important in either keeping souls out of hell ... or bringing more in. ?????

Hope you find something helpful with that story.

BTW .. did you notice any temperature change when they showed up?

Wow- That's quite an experience. I hope my soul is O.K.! Ya know what made me think of this as a possibility a bunch of years ago? Remember the movie GHOST, and the black entities that appeared from dark areas to deliver a soul to hell? When I saw that movie I got really depressed. It instantly transported me back to that night again and made me wonder if this is what visited me that night. I thought about it for months, and even prayed that this is not what's in store for me.

I don't know what I believe as far as God goes. I was brought up Catholic, and was very into it when I was young. ( This was in part due to the night in question. ) I lost interest in it because the nuns, when confronted with valid questions, would just get frustrated with me & tell me "It's a mystery". My biggest gripe was having to go to confession. I just couldn't understand why I had to tell my sins to another human being WHEN I WAS IN GOD"S HOUSE! Why couldn't I talk to him & beg him to forgive me for my transgressions? There were many other rules & regulations that to me seemed to just create an exclusive club, and if you didn't belong to the club, then you couldn't get into Heaven! It didn't make sense to me. In catechism I asked what happened to all the Chinese people & Egyptians that lived their lives without even knowing the Father, Son & Holy Spirit ever existed, and are their souls denied from Heaven. I couldn't get an answer. The nuns hated to see me raise my hand. . .

I DO feel my soul. I just don't really buy into any organized religion. I don't think I should have to belong to a church to get into Heaven, and that if you live a good life & help others, then you get in too! ( No club membership necessary!. ) I should only be required to talk to what I believe to be my higher power, which I kinda picture is more like "The Force" from Star Wars than an actual being, and work things out. We are all made of Stardust. . .

And no I didn't notice that there was any kind of temperatue change.

Thanx FlyersFan-

2PacSade-

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by Yarcofin

WE ARE NOW - BUT SOMEDAY - YOU'LL BE...

... A shadow like them. Ie, dead.

I don't know if that was an invitation that they want you to be one of them, or a sort of "Just you wait" kind of thing...

Yarcofin is "on the stick" on this one I think. The messenger is not as important as the message. "Memento mori" has been a theme throughout time. Are you ready? If not, it's time to be ready. Feel free to U2U for details, there is a way to have eternal life.

Flyersfan had an interesting message as well. I think between the two, you may have an answer.

A lot of times you have to ask, what did you feel at the time? If the answer is afraid, ask why. Is it because of the sudden appearence? What it how the visitors looked themselves? Was it the message they were giving? Was it all three? Were they trying to help or harm with the message?

Whether or not they intended to, this message helps you. Now, it's up to you to make a move on it.

Thank you saint4God- I appreciate your concern. I just finished a post describing what my thoughts were concerning religion. I would like to hear what you have to tell me so feel free to U2U with the details.

2PacSade-

Originally posted by 2PacSade

" WE ARE NOW, BUT SOMEDAY, YOU'LL BE. . ."

I think what you saw were visitors from the human psyche. Children are able to experience the pysche more easily because they came out of it more recently. The message spoken to you was a simple statement of truth and a positive one. Many spiritual people will talk about living in the NOW because that is where happiness and enlightenment are. I'm sure you can find many references to it in a search.

I saw something which I suppose I could describe as 'similar' one time.

I was 16 years old. It was just before 10 pm, on a summer night and I was at home watching tv. My dad was in bed, and my sister (15) had just gone to the shop which closed at 10 pm, so I was alone in the living room. It wasn't dark outside, just turning dusk, as it was summer.

Nevertheless, behind me and to my left, the kitchen light was on and the kitchen door open, which cast a bright light onto the wall facing me.

Suddenly, out of the corner of my eye, I noticed some movement on the wall facing me, near the floor, and immediately turned my head full to face it and look. I saw a SOLID BLACK SHADOW rise up from the floor and raise itself up to full height. The shadow was in the shape of a man. It was as though some person had walked out of the kitchen into the living room, blocking the kitchen light and casting a rising shadow on the wall as he emerged from the kitchen. But there was no person there. Having reached full height, this shadow then 'walked' along the whole length of the living room wall in front of me and disappeared through the window to my right, or rather 'merged' into the orange streetlights showing through the window, and disappeared.

My eyes followed it the whole time. The whole event lasted only about 5 or 6 seconds.

I was struck absolutely motionless in terror, and when I was able to gather my thoughts enough to actually move, I rapidly made my way to the front door, trying to get out. By this time I was on my knees, and couldn't even breathe because of the fear. I remember reaching up to try and open the door, when my sister returned from the shop and found me there, gasping and trying to get out.

I don't know what it was, but I think whatever it was, it intended for me to see it, and maybe scare me to death. I say this because it appeared just when I was alone, and also just where I would most likely see it - on the wall facing me, and where the light from the kitchen illuminated the wall that it appeared on.

I think the biggest fear for me at the time was not knowing what power this thing had, or what it was capable of.

This happened in a newly-built house we moved into. My sister also says she saw a white human shape in the same kitchen at a later time, and other strange things happened in the house.

I don't know what I saw that night, but I know I saw it. I have never been so terrified in my life. I was not drunk, or on drugs. I saw that black shadow, but I don't know what it was. We don't live there anymore.

[edit on 16-3-2007 by Old Man]

[edit on 16-3-2007 by Old Man]

2PacSade: re: your sentiments concerning God, organised religion, clergy's inflexible and miserly failure to respond to your very natural feelings and opinions, etc.

I was like you. Conventional religious upbringing. Constant rebukes about 'daring to question' and the constant reminder that All is God's Will and we SHOULD NOT QUESTION God's alleged Will, etc.

Result: guilt and fear.

Followed by genuine attempts to be 'good'.

Then MORE questions that demanded answers.

More guilt and fear.

But, gee. How much guilt and fear can a kid tolerate before fed-upness kicks in?

So by the time I'd reached my teens, even though I was scared silly by some of the experiences I'd had and was having, I just couldn't stomach being a hypocrite any longer.

My questions about God and Everything were VALID.

The answers I was receiving were purile RUBBISH.

And I was fed up with being good i.e. 'obedient and unquestioning' out of FEAR.

I'm not going to cringe around because I'm afraid of the boogey men, I decided. I'm not going to bury my valid curiosity and doubts because of FEAR.

If I love God, it's going to be because I WANT to. Not because I'm scared of the alternative.

Then I had my breakthrough.

God made me, right?

God made me curious.

I didn't make myself. Didn't pick through the family's gene-pool and get to select who and what I am.

God made me intelligent enough to work out that 'what is' isn't the same as 'what I'm being told and preached to about'.

So Ok. God made me this way so he can't very well complain about the way I am.

If God wanted me to be stupid and obedient and unquestioning, then he should have made sure I turned out that way.

He didn't.

So obviously he wanted me to be the way I am.

And if that doesn't conform with the way religion demands I be, then religion loses --- because God is God and religion is nothing in comparison.

That's the way I made sense of it at 13 or so, and nothing's happened since to change my mind about things.

Frankly, I think organised religion is about as accurate a reflection of the way God really is as Bush's lies about the reason for the Iraqi 'war on terra'. In other words, the propaganda and the reality have nothing in common.

In fact, I think we'll discover that God is extremely tolerant and understanding. I'm sure everyone who dies heaves a massive sigh of relief when they find out that dying is the best kind of 'coming home' feeling possible, regardless of what we have or haven't done during physical life.

Because let's face it, we're none of us responsible for what we are or have done. We didn't design ourselves, did we? So for God to be angry or disappointed in us is as ridiculous and unfair as a car manufacturer who blames his three-wheel vehicle for not running smoothly. And if we can't give God credit for being at least a few steps above a car-manufacturer, we might as well give up entirely.

Someone's a paedophile? Who made him? Who messed up the paedophile's head and sexual preferences and caused him to be that way? Was it the paedophile himself? Nope. He had no say in it. Now, obviously Nature and the rest produces paedophiles -- take the Bonobo for example. But, as we're keeping it simple here, the responsibility for the paedophile lies ultimately with God.

Same goes for murderers and the most reviled examples of humanity. They did not design themselves. They are not responsible for what they are or have done. They wouldn't be as they are, had they been bequeathed different genes and characteristics, etc.

So, the good, the bad, the ugly --- all are God's responsibility.

And I have all the confidence in the world that he's well aware of that.

Further, I suspect he will be especially kind and gentle with those who were compelled to live appalling and disgusting physical lives. It would be no fun being a monster.

So despite the Church's threats and warnings, etc., I think we're going to discover God to be a very understanding God, with a great sense of humour, obviously, considering the platypus, the zebra and Paris Hilton.

If you're naturally 'good' (and you sound that way) then you have nothing to worry about. And for those who're naturally bad, then they'll most probably get an extra big hug for putting up with being so rotten.

Even the priests and nuns will be accepted with open arms. They didn't design themselves either, so not their fault.

God's happy in his heaven and all is well :-)

Originally posted by 2PacSade

I couldn't tell you if there was any form of feature to the faces. They were totally black, almost like Pararesearchwriter stated; ... They were void of anything till the one in the middle spoke, like a looking into a vacuum , as stated above.

Ah! Someone else has had this experience, too! My sister and I have though we were the only ones, as we had been unable to find anyone else who'd had the same experience. As I said, I found info on "shadow people," but the descriptions didn't match. The ones my sister saw when she was ill had robes, but all the others were just "body forms," devoid of any light/shadow, black holes.

Originally posted by 2PacSade
I took a look around the site and I found this thread;

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's quite interesting, and describes similar experiences expressed on this thread.

Thank you for posting that! It sounds so much like what we saw, except again for the black robes. Queenannie38 mentioned negative energy, and her description fit what we saw. However, I should add here that in the case of the "burglar" when I was four as well as the shapes in the park, the feeling I got from them was not malevolent, nor was it good. I was scared because it was unknown, and of course when I was four I was scared of lots of things in the dark! (Especially because our house was in fact haunted--despite all claims by our parents that it was just floorboards creaking back up in the night where we'd stepped on them during the day.) But years later when we saw the shapes in the park, I was in my early 20s and what I sensed was ... total apathy. The figures didn't even seem to notice us, the same way the "burglar man" hadn't noticed when I was whispering to my mother trying to wake her up. Even at four I thought that was strange--I kept thinking he'd hear me whispering and come get me, but he just kept tiptoeing past and disappeared.

Since then I have seen things that might be called ghosts, entities, and the like--many spirit lights, glitter showers, streaks of light and starbursts, as well as dark shadows and mists, among other things. But aside from those occasions I'm glad to say I haven't seen any more "black holes."

One day I hope to get to the bottom of all this and solve the mystery once and for all.

Actually, I don't envisage God as a 'person' and I don't imagine some kindly, bearded old man will personally give us a hug. But you know what I mean.

Basically, I regard us as the equivalent of leaves on a big tree. To get close to God, we (the leaves) have to travel through the millions of twigs, along the branches, up or down bigger branches, through the trunk and all along the roots ... until we get to the 'soil'. And that soil sustains millions of other trees, all with their billions of individual leaves.

Maybe all that soil and all those trees are the equivalent of a tiny pimple on God's bum.

So we're pretty insignificant, or at least this little life we're leading now is.

But everything returns to source.

And that's how I see God -- as the Ultimate Source of All. Big. White light. Humming hypnotically like a magical power generator. Source of good stuff that we're able, even now, to plug into for comfort and assistance.

During our many journeys, we'll probably come into contact with a myriad life-forms. Some may even be the 'black shadows'. Others may be the 'grey aliens' and 'ghosts' and whatever.

It's unstoppable. We're on the journey, whether we like it or not.

But I suspect this 'brain' and 'mind' we have now is just a fraction of what we really are.

And one day, maybe, we'll see the big picture and it might even be so good that we learn we contributed something meaningful to that big picture.

But in the meantime, for most of us at least, we're not given anything we can't handle.

Originally posted by Dock6

I was like you. Conventional religious upbringing. Constant rebukes about 'daring to question' and the constant reminder that All is God's Will and we SHOULD NOT QUESTION God's alleged Will, etc.

Result: guilt and fear.

Followed by genuine attempts to be 'good'.

Then MORE questions that demanded answers.

More guilt and fear.

But, gee. How much guilt and fear can a kid tolerate before fed-upness kicks in?

Dock, what a great post!!! Took my sister and me awhile longer to break free of the religious chains, and we're still not totally free of them (read: brainwashing), despite intellectual understanding of their fallacy.

I loved your analogy of the car manufacturer---I myself have used a similar analogy. I mean, here's this God who makes "Man" as He sees fit--He, God, could've made Man any way He wanted; after all He's God!--then condemns the poor human for doing things that God obviously must have created him to do! How else could humans do those things? Computers (or cars or anything else we humans make) don't just suddenly start baking cakes without having been set up in some way to do those things. Human beings walk, talk, sit, stand, eat, or whatever because God gave them that ability (according to the Creation story/Bible). So it stands to reason that God must've given humans the capability to "sin" as well.

But the FEAR is the thing that stands out the most. My sister and I were raised in "fire & brimstone" Southern Baptist churches, and to this day we cannot shake the deep-seated fear that our Christian upbringing instilled, despite 14 yrs on the metaphysical path.

To be curious and ask questions--then be condemned for asking. Yup!! Once when my sister was in her late teens, she had some serious spiritual questions so she went and asked our minister; things like why does God allow this or that, why do we need to learn this lesson, etc. Some were answered with the old standby "free will"; the rest were dismissed with "You'll find out when you die."

When you die!

So I guess if she'd gone to him with questions about the dark shapes she'd seen, he probably would've given her some story about demons, then told her she had probably committed some awful sin (at the tender age of six) and should repent, or else she'd go to hell when she died. THEN she'd find out what it all meant.

Just guessing.

Originally posted by hikix
something "somewhat" similiar happened to me. I was about 10 years old and i was wide awake laying in my room. I went up to the air conditioner to put my pillow against it because it was hot in the room, and i look up at the blinds and i saw a shadow of a long skiny arm with 4 long skinny fingurs, move across the blind, make a grabbing motion and then continue back towards the wall and disappear.... it freaked me out sooooo much. But, what really freaked me out is that a few years ago my twin brother told me the SAME story that it happened to him, doing the same exact thing!

O_O
...The exact thing happened to me. I registered just now, so I can reply to this.
Except with me it was a bit different.
About a year ago I was on Wellbutrin for a bit-- but while on it, I started seeing things. Shadowy silhouettes, faces in the walls.. I'd hear these jumbled voices as well, and I always had a profound sense of dread.
Anyway: I saw the arm you mentioned on the walls all the time. I'd see it everywhere. Not all the time-- but it was always bound to show up. It would reach out, do the "grabbing motion" and recoil-- usually recoiling more quickly if I reached out my own hand.

However.. Wellbutrin CAN cause hallucinations in some. I just wonder though, since we had the same experience and all.

Originally posted by 2PacSade

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Maybe the reason more children apparently have this paranormal sensitivity is because of elevated levels of '___' during childhood?

I never heard of this before, but after doing a little looking around I guess it's been proven the levels are higher. Maybe it's a contributor to this phenomenon in kids.

Dimethyltryptamine

Its true that children have larger pineal glands that shrink when they hit puberty and we could assume that '___' levels in children are higher. As a kid I saw lots too but I kinda discount it all due to this (think about how children can play with toys... its as if they have psychedelic help!).

BUT, if you go down the '___' road for an explanation you will find more questions than answers. Adults given '___' have a high chance of experiencing 'alien entities' very similar to abduction scenarios. PLUS a large % of these entities are repillian in nature (lol musnt forget the Elves).

Link

In this article I wish to draw attention to a strange property of the tryptamine psychedelics, especially N,N-Dimethyltryptamine ('___'), which sets them apart from other psychedelics, namely, their ability to place users in touch with a realm that is apparently inhabited by discarnate entities of an intelligent nature.

Further down that article the write poses a number of ideas about the alien entity subject, Ill c&p a couple.

(i) There are no alien entities at all; it's merely subjective hallucination. The '___' state may be interesting, even extremely interesting, but really there are no independently-existing alien entities to be found.

(vi) The realm to which '___' provides access is the world of the dead. The entities experienced are the souls, or personalities, of the departed, which retain some kind of life and ability to communicate. The realm of dead souls, commonly accepted by cultures and societies other than that of the modern West, is now accessible using '___'.

(viii) The entities are probes from an extraterrestrial or an extradimensional species, sent out to make contact with organisms such as ourselves who are able to manipulate their nervous systems in a way which allows communication to take place.

Interesting stuff no?